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Irish not Scots troops

The caption on the original woodcut, the full picture which can be seen elsewhere on Wikipedia, says these are Irish troops. No mention of Scots. Cassandra

The source of this image says Scottish, but there does seem to be confusion about it. A google search shows a mix. This comprehensive blog suggests the Irish heading is an error by the Germans. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 16:24, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed inclusion criteria for List of tartans

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Please see Talk:List of tartans#Inclusion criteria, a proposal for a three-point list of inclusion criteria. There are at least 7000 tartans and we cannot account for them all in a single article. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 20:42, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Missing History - Kilt / Tartan tunic.

I notice this article excludes the kilts predecessor, the Tartan tunic dating back to the 5th century.

The Traditional tunic was no different than the full body kit, a one-piece with a waist belt to hold the sword.

Occasionally the Gaels would bare cloaks marching the fly plaid.

The tunic also was just above the knee, recorded within Saxon and Roman history, the Romans made a clear relationship between the Gaels and the Gaul based on dress and lifestyle, tartan dating back thousands of years also.

I would like to see the ancestry of the kilt and tartan placed on this article, I can see stubborn nationalists stating tartan and the kilt was strictly Scottish invention whist is completely inaccurate based of factual evidence and documentation.

The Scots regularly praise their Celtic ancestors, yet many refuse to accept Scottish identity descends from the Celts of Europe.

The oldy form of the kilt days back to the 5th century, to Scotia (Hibernia) and Dal Riata. 2A00:23C8:8580:1C00:2016:C7EF:E470:6DDC (talk) 13:43, 22 May 2020 (UTC)Ad[reply]

Word Origin

According to the Dictionary of the Scots Language and Oxford English Dictionary, the noun derives from a verb to kilt, originally meaning "to gird up; to tuck up (the skirts) round the body", which is apparently of Scandinavian origin.

The above seems slightly misleading.

What the Dictionary of the Scots Language actually says is:

[O.Sc. kilt, to tuck up, from 1513, to hang, 1697, North Mid.Eng. kilt, to gird, a.1340. The n. is not found in O.Sc.]

In other words (and in common with the OED) the DSL confirms that the verb to kilt is Middle English, first recorded around 1340. It doesn't seem to have found its way into Scotland until 1513. Though its earlier origin into England may well have been 'Scandinavian' its direct origin as far as Scotland is concerned would seem to be from the English of England.

The noun 'a kilt' appears to have been first recorded in 1746 in both Scotland and England.