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Change 'when she described women's concerns as "not valid"' to 'when she described concerns about gender recognition reform as "not valid"', using the existing sources. [[Special:Contributions/90.241.29.72|90.241.29.72]] ([[User talk:90.241.29.72|talk]]) 15:13, 11 September 2021 (UTC) |
Change 'when she described women's concerns as "not valid"' to 'when she described concerns about gender recognition reform as "not valid"', using the existing sources. [[Special:Contributions/90.241.29.72|90.241.29.72]] ([[User talk:90.241.29.72|talk]]) 15:13, 11 September 2021 (UTC) |
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:Further to this are reports of a super injunction involving Sturgeon: https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-woman-who-doesnt-exist/ [[Special:Contributions/81.154.171.127|81.154.171.127]] ([[User talk:81.154.171.127|talk]]) 19:43, 17 October 2021 (UTC) |
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First Minister section too long - Split article?
The section on her tenure seems too long. Could we trim and move some of it to a new article. For example Premiership of Nicola Sturgeon?
JLo-Watson (talk) 00:19, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
I think a Premiership article for Nicola would be a such great idea! 2A00:23C5:2C01:9501:488B:6447:46B8:9E9 (talk) 17:55, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
Portrait
What are everyone's thoughts on a change of portrait?
@Monkey1987king: I think we should use
D as that’s Nicola’s official portrait which is used on the Scot Gov website: https://www.gov.scot/about/who-runs-government/first-minister/ 2A00:23C5:2C01:9501:7DB3:6207:FECE:B10B (talk) 17:31, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
- I think we should use neutral photos that focus on the subject and nothing else. D, from a non-neutral source, deliberately puts a Scottish flag behind her, so we shouldn't use that. The current one, A, is fine. C is fine. Bondegezou (talk) 12:26, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
- Most US Presidents have the American flag behind them, Bondegezou. Nicola Sturgeon is the First Minister of Scotland, so there’s no problem with having the nation’s flag that she governs behind her. And it shows her in a formal first ministerial way. 2A00:23C5:2C01:9501:45EC:8546:102:B215 (talk) 21:44, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- I'm unclear how the flag-waving of US Presidents disproves my point. Sturgeon was not always and will, I presume, not always be the First Minister of Scotland. This article is not about the First Minister of Scotland, it is about Nicola Sturgeon, the person. Wikipedia seeks to be neutral. The current agreed upon portrait is a neutral image of her. I see no clamour here for any change: let's stick with what we've been using. Bondegezou (talk) 22:13, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- Most US Presidents have the American flag behind them, Bondegezou. Nicola Sturgeon is the First Minister of Scotland, so there’s no problem with having the nation’s flag that she governs behind her. And it shows her in a formal first ministerial way. 2A00:23C5:2C01:9501:45EC:8546:102:B215 (talk) 21:44, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- I support a cropped version of C over the current one (A), simply because it's a better quality image. B is mildly blurry, and D isn't great quality (the flag would need to be cropped out anyway, so that's not a factor). Uses x (talk • contribs) 22:44, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- I personally like C as well. A I feel is dated and so too is D, thats why I think B and C would be better. I do feel though that B is blurry so it makes C a little better. Thats just my opinion but I'm happy with anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monkey1987king (talk • contribs) 18:17, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
- I'm fine with C. A bit of a crop could be done. Bondegezou (talk) 18:30, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- I personally like C as well. A I feel is dated and so too is D, thats why I think B and C would be better. I do feel though that B is blurry so it makes C a little better. Thats just my opinion but I'm happy with anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monkey1987king (talk • contribs) 18:17, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Well, I don't like the current one, it makes her look a bit demonic. PatGallacher (talk) 11:41, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
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Trans rights
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The article says that 'In September 2021, Sturgeon was accused of shutting down debate about gender reforms, after she heckled Murdo Fraser in parliament when he mentioned the Women's Rights Demo organised by feminist campaign group For Women Scotland, and when she described women's concerns as "not valid"' but the sources say she described criticisms of gender recognition reform as 'not valid', not 'women's concerns'. Some of the criticisms were made by women, some by men. The reforms are also supported by many women so they're not accurately described as 'women's concerns'. 90.241.29.72 (talk) 13:35, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:05, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
Change 'when she described women's concerns as "not valid"' to 'when she described concerns about gender recognition reform as "not valid"', using the existing sources. 90.241.29.72 (talk) 15:13, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
- Done (courtesy ping AndyGordon) — LauritzT (talk) 12:52, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Further to this are reports of a super injunction involving Sturgeon: https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-woman-who-doesnt-exist/ 81.154.171.127 (talk) 19:43, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
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