Talk:List of programs broadcast by Disney Channel

DuckTales 2017 is on Disney Channel!

DuckTales (2017) was added to Disney Channel's line-up yesterday, and is still on their schedule, so please add it to the current programming section.

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DuckTales

DuckTales is now back to airing on Disney XD starting with season 3.

year list

Is there a year list as the DCOMs? series every year rteleased?

Edits needed

Pup Academy should not be listed under current acquired shows - the show ended in 2019 and hasn't aired in a year at least. same for Go Away, Unicorn.

These are not "current" series at all. Both ended in 2019. ~

Why is nobody doing this? this site is a joke...

Should Mech-X4 be listed as ending August 20, 2018

That’s when it ended on Disney XD. Wander Over Yonder shows it’s Disney XD final air date, i feel like Mech-X4 should just show the Disney XD airdate but have a tag that says -Moved to disney xd on {date}, but still showed reruns on Disney Channel (if it did)

Just Roll With It is cancelled

Further edits needed - JUST ROLL WITH IT ended forever. The lead actress stated this clearly and multiple times on her verified instagram account. The video was recorded and posted https://twitter.com/_grxnttt_/status/1393505842759036931

Please provide accurate and not false info on the site that people expect to be accurate.

 Not done. Actors don't speak for series. Amaury • 07:21, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

How come being removed from Disney Channel Press doesn’t count?

It’s clearly an official website by Disney, and if they remove something off the list, shouldn’t that tell us that it’s not coming back…?! Peacerocker07 (talk) 00:14, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

How come being removed from Disney Channel Press doesn’t count?

It’s clearly an official website by Disney, and if they remove something off the list, shouldn’t that tell us that it’s not coming back…?! Peacerocker07 (talk) 00:15, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Because you cannot make that inference. We need a reliable source to say it's cancelled. EvergreenFir (talk) 00:18, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Are you intentionally being obtuse? The legal listing of active shows from the press is the be-all-end-all. This is how cancellation works. I'm an 8 year veteran reporter covering Disney. To be in your position I would expect you to be aware of these things. 72.128.218.3 (talk) 01:24, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

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Show Cancelled

The show was removed from their press / PR site. This is literally how a series is cancelled. It's absolute confirmation. You don't remove a series from the press site that is ongoing. They always remove a series approximately 6 months after the cancellation. In addition, the series was removed from DisneyNow. The only time a series is removed from on-demand is when the series is complete. That is why BUnk'd is still there. Bunk'd is doing a 6th season (per production weekly).

Take Just Roll With it Down. Do not wait until May, it makes everyone here look like fools. The PR Team REMOVED the series FROM THEIR LIST OF SHOWS. You don't remove a show from your PRESS SITE UNTIL ITS OVER. https://www.dgepress.com/disneychannel/shows/

Not removing it shows you have absolutely no understanding of the television industry or what "confirmation" entails. As a veteran reporter I urge you to stop being bull-headed. 72.128.218.3 (talk) 01:24, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm personally convinced by the circumstantial evidence. If there's a reliable source saying it's ongoing instead, that would preclude editorial discretion. But the entry is unsourced, period, so it's up for reasonable (and maybe polite) discussion. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:58, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

In other words, if nobody gives us a better reason not to in the next 72 hours, I'll use my veteran minotaur sway to push your proposal through. If strings must be pulled, I can do that, too. After 15 years traversing these hollowed passages, I'm not too humble to admit I've developed quite the formidably puzzling superiority complex! And take it from me, rookie, you won't get ahead in this business by SHOUTING at "FOOLS". Admins are people, too, and the one you're implicitly raving at happens to have forgotten more about protecting the children's television industry on Wikipedia from perceived vandals and edit warriors than you and me combined will ever know. You can't just show up and start "rocking the boat", in general. You gotta climb or hop your way smoothly to the top, then dive gracefully onto (or just beside) your opponent/fellow worker, using your head. Anyway, where was I? Oh yeah... InedibleHulk (talk) 05:45, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

How is Kaylin Hayman clearly stating on her Instagram story that the show is over, unreliable?

And even a director of many episodes said “series wrap”, his name is Robbie Countrynan and it’s on his Insta post from Nov 24, 2020. Peacerocker07 (talk) 05:01, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

This same situation applies to Gabby Duran too. The cast clearly knows it’s over, just look at Nathan Lovejoy’s Instagram!

And the creator of the show, Mike Alber, liked Nathan’s post about it not getting a season 3… shouldn’t that say something about the status of Gabby Duran? Peacerocker07 (talk) 05:02, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

I tried. Apparently we need a source to assume a show is finished, but none to assume it's not. Seems clearly biased toward one original research stance. Or we could wait a year. Was that arbitrary time limit pulled out of nowhere by Wikipedians, too, Amaury? InedibleHulk (talk) 05:17, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

We always assume a series is continuing after a season ends, unless we have a reliable source making a direct statement that a series has been canceled or has ended. Broadcast networks and many cable networks make this clear, while some don't. If there's no reliable source, then we wait until after one year since the last new episode. In this case, we can mark this series as over on May 15, 2022, if there are no new episodes between now and then. This is how Wikipedia has always worked. If an actor hasn't done any acting in a while, we wouldn't assume they're no longer alive. Amaury • 05:29, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Speak for yourself. When a season ends with a retrospective, the next doesn't show up, the channel stops promoting the series and its former star and director publicly say it's done, at least three of us assume it ended. Wikipedia has always hosted baseless claims, yes, but since this claim has been repeatedly challenged and removed, I think the onus is on you to verify it, not edit war and point to unofficially accepted obscure local norms. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:10, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Literally from Template:Infobox television: The first air date of the show's last episode on its original network. Use "present" if the show is ongoing or renewed and  () if the show is ended. Only insert the last episode's date after it has happened. In some cases the fate of a program might be uncertain, for example if there are no announcements that a show has been renewed. If such a program has not aired a new episode in 12 months, "present" can be changed to the date the last episode aired, using  (). This does not imply the series has been cancelled, rather that the program "last aired" on that date. This is to prevent programs from being listed as "present" in perpetuity. In the event that a program resumes airing after a long hiatus, such as more than 12 months between episodes or cancellation and subsequent renewal, the date is simply replaced with "present" to reflect the "current" status of the program. Emphasis mine. If you can't understand that, then that's on you, not me. The onus is on you and others who want to mark it ended/canceled to prove such, not the other way around, especially when there have already been examples of people insisting some series on Disney Channel were either over or canceled, and a while later, we got word from Disney Channel that they were renewed for another season. If you decide to continue to restore edits saying it was canceled, when that is not officially the case, you will be reported for disruptive editing and potentially blocked. Plains and simple. Amaury • 06:25, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

So this table is playing by infobox guidelines? Weird. But whatever. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:32, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

And why do you think adding your stance as invisible SHOUTY instructions is fine, but me adding visible standard tags and links to the overall content discussion here is illegal? InedibleHulk (talk) 06:59, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Because I am not lying by making statements and saying they're facts. The notes simply say that an official source is needed to move those from current to ended. If we don't have that, we wait at least a year. Amaury • 07:08, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Are you suggesting one of your three opponents is lying? About what? Do you have contradictory evidence? InedibleHulk (talk) 07:16, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

I am not going to repeat or keep repeating myself. I've already explained it to you. Either understand it or don't. Amaury • 07:17, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

In that case, I'll assume good faith, and how you simply mean Disney, Hayman, Countryman, Lovejoy and Alber's public explanations are less reliable than your personal opinion on their shows' statuses. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:27, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Clearly you don't understand, or you are refusing to. Actors do not speak for the series. The only thing we can use would be an official announcement from the network, which we are lacking here. I am done discussing this, but will report if you continue to be disruptive. Amaury • 07:36, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

I understand how certain statements from these shows' cast and crew weigh more than some editor's misguided application of infobox advice on shows with uncertain fates. I respect your decision to present no sources contradicting their assertions. And I appreciate how your last hypothetical option for retaining the quite likely inaccurate version would be trying to block reasonably disagreeable colleagues. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:00, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Hulk, you are truly incredible. Thank you for exhibiting an ability to think freely. It's appalling the strange, hardnosed rules about what is "reliable source" for TV series. It doesn't seem to be an issue with Disney+ series which is also interesting...

I agree with you entirely - the impetus is and should be on Amaury and Wikipedia to prove this show isn't over. Leaving something listed as active for 355ish more days because 1 person disagrees with a journalist, an actor, the star of the show (Kylie Cantrall) in the actor's comment section (for Gabby Duran), the star of another show in her own video (for just roll with it cancellation), a show's director, a show's creator (sorry but the actual creator of a series doesn't like posts about the series being over if it's not over), other cast members in comments similarly grieving, the required removal of series from the press website when contracts expire and people are let go of NDAs, etc seems pretty silly to me.

In my journalism I've spoken to multiple disney channel actors in the past including a Bizaardvark star (sadly not Olivia Rodrigo ha) who have explained how they remain under contract for a period and then they celebrate being "Free" 6 months to a year later when they are no longer obligated to promote their series or appear in other promo for other series.

Nathan Lovejoy being an older actor doesn't play by those rules. It's why Kylie Cantrall didn't explicitly state its over (she's protecting her relationship with Disney) but expessed her sadness through emojis. The actress who pays her mother also commented and replied to the actor who played a mom on another show about them having a "2 season parents" dinner.

It seems older actors tend to be the NDA violators because they aren't afraid of ruffling feathers.

Iunderstand that this is my word against yours, but i assure you i'm not lying, and that you are incorrect. You have tried to deflect regularly calling into question my knowledge of the industry and the hired actors who play on the show as well as the crew. It's bizarre. There is no harm in accurately reporting the series over and in the weird case it re-appeared and re-entered production you could treat it like any revival and simply change it back to "present" instead of an end date. It's weird weird weird how much Wikipedia wants to die by these very odd and somewhat vague descriptions as to what is a "reliable source" eliminating honest, accurate information because of one person insisting the information "isn't" accurate while also refusing to provide even a shred of evidence other than the re-appearance of Bizarrdvark on DisneyNow. By the way, as I promised, on December 1st Disney re-removed the completed series Bizaardvark once again leaving just its shorts. That's how it operates. The initial "removal" happens and lasts approximately 1 year, then the shows reappear briefly.

I also have access to DIsney's production lists. Bunk'd season 6 is listed. Raven's Home season 5.

Anyway, I'm done, this is a waste of my time. I will continue to extend messages to my connections in the higher parts of the industry asking them to report it. There are some rumblings that Disney doesn't want it reported and they're choosing not to to maintain their good graces.

Sorry if I disrespected you, Amaury. Didn't mean to. I just am very passionate about accurate data and believe the impetus should be on editors to prove it's NOT over versus us to prove it is... the proof it is is extreme. Also, if it wasn't Disney would be talking with so many people now reporting on it. They wouldn't just sit quietly letting people think the show was over... that doesn't help the show reruns. 72.128.218.3 (talk) 05:07, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

OH finally, if you ban me as I was warned I will just make a new account. IP addresses aren't permananet.

God this is so ridiculous, but if Mike Alber were to post something specifically saying it was cancelled, would that be different than the actors confirming it? He's the show creator, so he would know everything that goes on about HIS show. I hope he does post something soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peacerocker07 (talk • contribs) 08:17, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Also Amaury, can you explain why the actors don't speak for the series? They should know these things especially when their show is cancelled. And if any of the actors on any of these shows asked you to remove it/mark it as ended, would you listen to them?

I am so glad the people who run the Fandom Wikis know better than to mark an ended show as current.

Should we add a “status” tab on the current list of shows?

For the current list of shows, wouldn’t it be easier just to add a “Status” tab next to the current shows so people don’t have fights over it?

Like the statuses could either be: “Pending” “Renewed” “Ongoing”

The shows that had season finales could definitely using a “pending” tab…

I’ve seen the “status” tab on the “List of Disney+ original programming.” Peacerocker07 (talk) 05:05, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

I am not opposed to this in principle, but I don't think it would stop people from fighting. They'd just switch it up and begin fighting over what the appropriate status should be and when it should be moved down to the repeats section. (Or maybe I'm just jaded.) Aoi (青い) (talk) 08:52, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

This is pointless – the issue is that Disney doesn't officially announce cancellations. There is nothing we can do about that except follow our own guidelines as spelled out places like MOS:TV and the documentation of {{Infobox television}}. It's not our fault that some of our editors don't understand WP:NOTNEWS and that this is an encyclopedia based on information verified by reliable and reputable sourcing. If it doesn't come from a network or a showrunner, it's not useable. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:13, 4 December 2021 (UTC)