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==Howq near were the Finns to Leningrad?== |
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This article says, 'Their headquarters rejected German pleas for aerial attacks against Leningrad[51] and did not advance farther south from the Svir River in occupied East Karelia (160 kilometres northeast of Leningrad), which they had reached on 7 September." and then is says, "The proximity of the Finnish border – 33–35 km (21–22 mi) from downtown Leningrad – and the threat of a Finnish attack complicated the defence of the city." How far were the Finnish army from Leningrad? [[Special:Contributions/2A02:8084:6A20:4600:D5A1:D2F2:FC6A:6AB3|2A02:8084:6A20:4600:D5A1:D2F2:FC6A:6AB3]] ([[User talk:2A02:8084:6A20:4600:D5A1:D2F2:FC6A:6AB3|talk]]) 21:25, 11 December 2021 (UTC) |
This article says, 'Their headquarters rejected German pleas for aerial attacks against Leningrad[51] and did not advance farther south from the Svir River in occupied East Karelia (160 kilometres northeast of Leningrad), which they had reached on 7 September." and then is says, "The proximity of the Finnish border – 33–35 km (21–22 mi) from downtown Leningrad – and the threat of a Finnish attack complicated the defence of the city." How far were the Finnish army from Leningrad? [[Special:Contributions/2A02:8084:6A20:4600:D5A1:D2F2:FC6A:6AB3|2A02:8084:6A20:4600:D5A1:D2F2:FC6A:6AB3]] ([[User talk:2A02:8084:6A20:4600:D5A1:D2F2:FC6A:6AB3|talk]]) 21:25, 11 December 2021 (UTC) |
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:Closest point was probably on shore of the Gulf of Finland at river Sestra (Rajajoki), essentially where the pre-Winter War Finnish-Soviet border had been. That front had remained static since September 1941 and trench warfare style conditions had begun. The reference about Svir river is about the linking up of the Finnish and German forces south of Svir which - if completed - would have created a second ring of envelopment around Leningrad. - [[User:Wanderer602|Wanderer602]] ([[User talk:Wanderer602|talk]]) 05:24, 12 December 2021 (UTC) |
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Giuseppe Bianchini
The infobox currently lists the highest ranking Italian officer as "Giuseppe Bianchini". There is a record of a Corvette Captain, last name Bianchini, commanding XII Squadriglia MAS during the siege under the wider overall command of the Finnish forces under Finnish HQ Marshal Mannerheim, but I haven't seen any source that refers to him with the given name Giuseppe, or any given name that I can find. In addition, is there any other available information about him available aside from his role commanding the XII Squadriglia MAS during the siege? Salociin (talk) 06:44, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
- Italian wiki says Giuseppe Blanchini was commander of the squadron. I'm not sure we should list Blanchini under commanders as the Italian commitment wasn't really notable - the squadron was four boats and 99 men. For example, on articles such as Normandy landings we don't list the highest ranking Canadian officer even though the Canadians committed an entire division to that battle. Kges1901 (talk) 10:40, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
- The Canadian 3rd Division was under British command (I Corps), so your example is not relevant. 2607:FEA8:BFA0:47F:FC8E:56FB:833F:34AC (talk) 19:39, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
- That's true, but then by that logic there wouldn't be a need to list Bianchini since the squadron was under German command. Kges1901 (talk) 13:46, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- The Canadian 3rd Division was under British command (I Corps), so your example is not relevant. 2607:FEA8:BFA0:47F:FC8E:56FB:833F:34AC (talk) 19:39, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Finns have great PR!
There is nothing in the article that challenges the idea that Finland was engaged in a defensive war, which smacks of partiality. 2607:FEA8:BFA0:47F:FC8E:56FB:833F:34AC (talk) 19:41, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
- I am seconding this. This is embarrassing whitewashing. For Russians, the treat of Finnish attach, and their blockade, was very much real and added to military (and civilian) hardship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.88.174.189 (talk) 01:08, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Your article is an embarrassment
Your article reads like what it is: something written by teenagers and Finns interested in their participation in WWII. You need to start again, beginning by reading serious books on the subject, and leaving out the cannibalism stuff.
Rather than being noble servants to the cause of history, you are imbecilic clowns. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.201.120.199 (talk) 21:43, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Please help me translate an article on the relevant topic into English
For more than 32 years there is a commemorative medal "Resident of the besieged Leningrad" and the corresponding social status, providing social support and emphasizing historical and geographical identity. There is a corresponding article in Russian and I guess to create an English version. 176.59.23.179 (talk) 22:32, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Howq near were the Finns to Leningrad?
This article says, 'Their headquarters rejected German pleas for aerial attacks against Leningrad[51] and did not advance farther south from the Svir River in occupied East Karelia (160 kilometres northeast of Leningrad), which they had reached on 7 September." and then is says, "The proximity of the Finnish border – 33–35 km (21–22 mi) from downtown Leningrad – and the threat of a Finnish attack complicated the defence of the city." How far were the Finnish army from Leningrad? 2A02:8084:6A20:4600:D5A1:D2F2:FC6A:6AB3 (talk) 21:25, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- Closest point was probably on shore of the Gulf of Finland at river Sestra (Rajajoki), essentially where the pre-Winter War Finnish-Soviet border had been. That front had remained static since September 1941 and trench warfare style conditions had begun. The reference about Svir river is about the linking up of the Finnish and German forces south of Svir which - if completed - would have created a second ring of envelopment around Leningrad. - Wanderer602 (talk) 05:24, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
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