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:: Having not received a reply, I have removed the images. — [[User:btphelps|btphelps]] <sup>([[User_talk:Btphelps |talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Btphelps |what I've done]])</sup> 08:13, 19 December 2021 (UTC) |
:: Having not received a reply, I have removed the images. — [[User:btphelps|btphelps]] <sup>([[User_talk:Btphelps |talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Btphelps |what I've done]])</sup> 08:13, 19 December 2021 (UTC) |
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::: Hi [[User:btphelps|btphelps]] - apologies for the slow reply - I had some family stuff over the holidays. The inscription is an engraving on the back of the watch - please take a look at the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wyatt_Earp#/media/File:Wyatt_Earp_pocket_watch_back.jpg closed watch back]. It shows "To Wyatt Earp BEST OF LUCK Tom Mix" -- as to provenance I'm not sure what would qualify. I'm Tom Mix's great grandson but how to prove that, or how to establish this watch isn't fake seems beyond the purview of an online platform like this. Any input welcome. I was thinking this type of photo is equivalent to someone taking a photo of a person, building, or other object for inclusion in Wikipedia. Your help figuring this out is welcome. [[User:Stevemidgley|Stevemidgley]] ([[User talk:Stevemidgley|talk]]) 18:01, 11 January 2022 (UTC) |
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Pronunciation
Often articles have an IPA pronunciation of the subject title, but this one doesn't.
I bring it up because I hear many people pronounce the name as "urp", but I went to college with a fellow named Jim Earp, who claimed Wyatt as a distant relative and insisted that his surname is pronounced as "arp". He said that this was how the Earp family always pronounced it through generations, and "urp" was the uninformed pronunciation of ignorant Yankees who didn't know better. He himself didn't have a southern accent; he sounded midwestern to me. Naturally I cannot add an IPA pronunciation on the basis of a personal anecdote, but I offer it as a data point. ~Anachronist (talk) 04:37, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- I too know an individual whose surname is Earp who believes the name is correctly pronounced "arp", but I have not found any sources to substantiate that belief. So the pronunciation guide as "arp" is not appropriate, given that the commonly accepted pronunciation is "urp". — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 07:13, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- So, the Earps pronounce their own surname with a silent E (as "arp"), and those who don't know better pronounce it with a silent A ("erp"), but nobody pronounces it as the word "ear" with a p on the end, like "eerp" (which is how I sounded it in my head the first time I saw the name as a child). It's a mystery. ~Anachronist (talk) 02:52, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
The Dexter
There are two photographs of the Dexter saloon. One is indeed the Dexter, and the other is the Second Class Saloon, not the Dexter. They are not the same building, of this there is no doubt. Bunco man (talk) 13:25, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Wyatt Earp's Pocket watch
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Hello, as a descendant of Tom Mix, I happen to be in possession of the pocket watch that Tom Mix gave to Wyatt Earp while he was living with Mix near Los Angeles towards the end of his life. Would it be appropriate to add photographs of this watch (which includes an inscription to Mr Earp from Mr Mix) on this page? I am the owner of the watch and can contribute the photo under the open licenses used by Wikipedia. I just don't know what the rules are for contributing photos (as opposed to content, which has to be reputably sourced). Thanks for any guidance! I'll include photographs here for now, so that their utility can be assessed by others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevemidgley (talk • contribs) 00:19, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Stevemidgley: If you took those photographs, then it looks like you did everything correctly. I added them to the article in what I hope would be an appropriate place (the only paragraph that mentions Tom Mix multiple times). I like the playing card design on the face. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:02, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
I took those photographs and I own the watch featured. Thank you for your help publishing them! I'm glad to be able to contribute this small bit of history! Stevemidgley (talk) 05:05, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
- Stevemidgley you state there is an inscription on this watch, but didn't provide an image of the inscription. Please share the inscription, which makes the watch notable, otherwise the watch claim is dubious and has no provenance and lacks merit for inclusion in the article. Thanks. — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 16:38, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
- Having not received a reply, I have removed the images. — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 08:13, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hi btphelps - apologies for the slow reply - I had some family stuff over the holidays. The inscription is an engraving on the back of the watch - please take a look at the closed watch back. It shows "To Wyatt Earp BEST OF LUCK Tom Mix" -- as to provenance I'm not sure what would qualify. I'm Tom Mix's great grandson but how to prove that, or how to establish this watch isn't fake seems beyond the purview of an online platform like this. Any input welcome. I was thinking this type of photo is equivalent to someone taking a photo of a person, building, or other object for inclusion in Wikipedia. Your help figuring this out is welcome. Stevemidgley (talk) 18:01, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
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