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Move to Mary Peltola?

She seems to best known now for her run for Alaska's At-Large congressional seat in 2022 and she is going by Mary Peltola.^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]https://www.ktoo.org/2022/04/11/mary-peltola-us-house-candidate/ Should it be moved? 24.69.133.124 (talk) 17:52, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Best known now" is a huge red flag. We shouldn't be in the business of being a social media mirror, regardless of whether a handful of news sites are playing along at a particular point in time due to the nature of a particular political campaign. The basis for her notability is in her past activities as an elected official, where she was known by multiple other names. As she was Mary Kapsner during the majority of her time in the legislature, that's how she's best known overall. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 04:32, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

But the title of the article is Mary Sattler, not Mary Kapsner, so that completely goes against your point. The question is is Mary Peltola best known for her campaign for U.S House or for her time as a State Representative. I would argue the former --24.69.133.124 (talk) 08:12, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In the course of this discussion, it was concerning to me that 1) you're making this request as an IP editor, rather than someone who has identified themselves as an established member of this community, and 2) you're appearing to take the position that Wikipedia exists as a reflection of current events and current headlines and not a historical record that takes the subject's entire history into consideration (looks like you've done this before). As a result, I did a little digging. A check of the FEC website reveals her to be a client of Ship Creek Group. Over the past nine years, there's been evidence of significant IP-based editing activity favoring clients of that company and clients of the company's principals prior to the company's founding. Alaska politics is not a high-traffic area of the encyclopedia, so this is noticeable when it occurs. Considering that, I hope you're familiar with the dim view Wikipedia takes towards conflict of interest.

As to your most recent comments, it appears the article was created in 2008 as "Mary Nelson", reflecting the name she used at the time without regard to her notability or renown as a whole. It was moved to its current title in 2011, apparently based on news coverage she received as a member of the Bethel city council referring to her as Mary Sattler. Skipping ahead to the present, from what I've read, she only began firmly using "Mary Peltola" in the context of this campaign. She's wavered back and forth between "Mary Sattler Peltola" (still the name of her Facebook page as of right this minute) and "Mary Peltola" quite a bit. Inexplicably, she has two separate entries on the 100 Years of Alaska's Legislature site, reflecting both previous married names. The first entry is titled Mary Sattler Kapsner, the second Mary Sattler-Nelson. Those pages were titled "Mary Kapsner" and "Mary Nelson" respectively when the site was launched in 2013. The common denominator in those changes is the addition of "Sattler".

You asked if she is "best known for her campaign for U.S. House". The election hasn't concluded yet, so all she is in that context is one of 48 candidates. If she makes it to the top four, you may have a case. In a strictly Wikipedian sense, consensus has been repeatedly established favoring the view that political figures are notable for holding certain offices and not notable for merely running for those offices. The only thing distinguishing her from most of the other 47 candidates is the fact that she's raising and spending money. Is that what's motivating this? RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 06:53, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Conspiracy theory much? I am not connected to Ship Creek Group at all or even know what you are talking about. I honestly don't care about the title of the page, just thought it should be up for discussion since hardly anyone knows her based on her previously known name. But it seems like a big deal to you (seems like you possibly have your own biases), so I'll drop it. 24.69.133.124 (talk) 21:05, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] ttps://www.marypeltola.com/

[2] ttps://www.adn.com/politics/2022/05/03/qa-with-alaska-us-house-candidate-mary-peltola/

[3] ttps://www.alaskapublic.org/2022/04/29/mary-peltola/

[4] ttps://www.ktoo.org/2022/04/11/mary-peltola-us-house-candidate/

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 You asked if she is "best known for her campaign for U.S. House".  The election hasn't concluded yet, so all she is in that context is one of 48 candidates.  If she makes it to the top four, you may have a case.  In a strictly Wikipedian sense, consensus has been repeatedly established favoring the view that political figures are notable for holding certain offices and not notable for merely running for those offices.  The only thing distinguishing her from most of the other 47 candidates is the fact that she's raising and spending money.  Is that what's motivating this?[[User:RadioKAOS|<span style="color:green;"> RadioKAOS </span>]]/[[User talk:RadioKAOS|<span style="color:green;"> Talk to me, Billy </span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/RadioKAOS|<span style="color:green;"> Transmissions </span>]] 06:53, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
+:Conspiracy theory much? I am not connected to Ship Creek Group at all or even know what you are talking about. I honestly don't care about the title of the page, just thought it should be up for discussion since hardly anyone knows her based on her previously known name. But it seems like a big deal to you (seems like you possibly have your own biases), so I'll drop it. [[Special:Contributions/24.69.133.124|24.69.133.124]] ([[User talk:24.69.133.124|talk]]) 21:05, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
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