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:Have a look at [[WP:WTAF]]. The article should exist before entries are added to lists such as the one on this article. - [[User:MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]]) 18:33, 31 October 2022 (UTC) |
:Have a look at [[WP:WTAF]]. The article should exist before entries are added to lists such as the one on this article. - [[User:MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]]) 18:33, 31 October 2022 (UTC) |
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Javelin software
Why there is no mention of Javelin software when he predate Lotus Improv and implement mechanism for pivot tables https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javelin_Software ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calimero (talk • contribs) 10:01, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
Execucom's FPS
Execucom's Financial Planning System had this feature for main frames many years before Improv. I will try and get back here with more details. Laughingskeptic (talk) 07:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Please explain the concept with examples
This article currently doe not live up the the Wikipedia standard. I am not familiar with pivot tables. I came here to learn what it is, but I still do not understand what it is after reading the article. Could a knowleadgeable person please rewrite the article to be concise, and add some examples? Also, I find it irrelevant that the name is a trademark of Micro$oft Corporation. -- PeterThoeny - talk - 2007-02-17
- The example now makes it clear. Thanks for making this article accessible! -- PeterThoeny - 06:18, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
The text under the second sample table seems to confuse rows and columns: " pivot table usually consists of row, column, and data (or fact) fields. In this case, the row is Region, the column is Ship Date, and the data we would like to see is Units. " My understanding (since VisiCalc in the 1980s) is that a row is horizontal and a column is vertical. In the table being described, the Region is a column header and the Ship Date is a row header. Am I thinking backwards or is the example presented backwards? 65.82.126.100 (talk) 20:43, 23 April 2008 (UTC) Cajun Charlie - 23 Apr 08
It seems backwards to me too; I'm not familiar enough with the tables to just change it though. arafel2 - 12:01, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Does anyone understand pivot tables and can anyone actually explain them ?
- Explain the name pivot table - if it's not a table that pivots so you can adjust the angle of it for reading a book etc.
- Why in the example is there only east & west yet north and south appear magically from somewhere
- examples with believable data that is followable
Regarding above complaints
I've since fixed up this article, and would like to clean up the discussion page. I'm not sure if I have to archive anything or just delete it. Could someone verify the issues have been addressed, and clean up the discussion page? Wikidan829 14:04, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
- Archived. -- Avi 14:32, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:Pivottable-Flatdata.PNG
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Fair use rationale for Image:Pivottable-Pivoted.PNG
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Fair use rationale for Image:Pivottable-Flatdata.PNG
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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:52, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Consolidation
I was under the impression the act was called data consolidation and the button to press on excel was pivot table. if they differ please specify. thanks --Squidonius (talk) 20:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Squidonius. Data consolidation appears to be more relevant to combining two or more datasources together, not the same as aggregating data from a single datasource. Wikidan829 (talk) 17:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Ambiguous in the wild
This might be good for an end user of excel but it doesn't speak much of the pivot table -- also for data -- that is reference by the postgres 8.3 docs. It appears as if that pivot table simply turns row oriented data into column oriented data. EvanCarroll (talk) 17:46, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Has this concern been addressed? Has it been fixed? New to watching here, I'll read the Article and see. -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 11:34, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
NPOV?
The comment about Google Docs assumes that Excel is the standard Gordon Findlay (talk) 23:15, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
USE MATLAB INSTEAD OF MICROSOFT PRODUCTS —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.159.118.122 (talk) 23:21, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Databases
The concept of a "pivot table" apparently means something entirely different for databases; see [1]. The article should be updated with this detail (and I'll do that when I have time, if someone else hasn't first). - Brian Kendig (talk) 19:07, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
/!\ Page is BUSTED /!\
I reverted the last edit. Not sure what it was about the last edit that broke the page. By the diffs, the last edit was minor.Fotoguzzi (talk) 03:25, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
History clarification
Does a pivot table do something that accountants haven't been doing since the first ruled page? I'm not an accountant, but wouldn't they do something like run through a large list of receipts add each to a separate account book for, e. g., a particular department? If so, could a realistic example be included in the history section?Fotoguzzi (talk) 03:24, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
NPOV: someone associated with "ZK" is clearly using Wikipedia for free advertising.
"...but as of 2011 it provides limited functionality and is extremely slow with large amounts of data. ZK, an Ajax framework, also allows to embed pivot tables in Web applications. Demo here."
Yeah, very neutral. Oh, and what an Excellent Explanation of Pivot Tables.
I came for an explanation of pivot tables. I stayed for the subtle marketing strategy.
66.90.152.153 (talk) 04:49, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Software section is not neutral
As of now, the software section is not written neutrally and overemphasizes some products. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.50.96.36 (talk) 13:19, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Not only that. It describes specific steps, using some specific tool's user interface. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.254.146.156 (talk) 08:50, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
numberGo?
Is numberGo Publisher really a prominent enough product to be mentioned between Excel and Calc? That and the following paragraph about their 2.0 release seem like product placement.
Also, why are Excel and Publisher simply listed, with Calc relegated to "competing software" providing "similar functionality". Perhaps I'm splitting hairs, but this reads like bias. Are not Excel and Publisher also competitors? Is the pivot table functionality in Excel and Publisher somehow different or better than that in Calc? Jasongetsdown (talk) 01:47, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
- It's not. I added that as a product that I have personally used and in hindsight realize that it was probably inappropriate. I think if you look before my original edits to this article that you will find I've drastically improved it overall. The majority of my rewrite still exists. Sorry it took so long but I haven't actually logged on in years. Wikidan829 (talk) 05:32, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
The Grammar in This Article is Horrible!
Can a native speaker of English please clean this up?
- I'll take a look "at my earliest convenience". Has someone already improved the article herein? -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 11:37, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Please Make Terminology In Examples Consistent
The opening paragraphs use "sex", but the later paragraphs use "gender".
Restoring incorrect deletion of how to create pivot tables in the 1010data application
The information added about 1010data was inappropriately reverted by @MrOllie: with a comment of nonnotable. Per Wikipedia policy, notability guidelines are not intended to be applied to content within articles or lists [1]. I am restoring the reference information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ecrz (talk • contribs)
- Have a look at WP:WTAF. The article should exist before entries are added to lists such as the one on this article. - MrOllie (talk) 18:33, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I did take a look at the policy page you indicating. It talks about writing an article before linking to it in a list, in order to prevent broken links. There are no such broken links in my addition. Please stop vandalizing other editor's contributions based on policies that apparently exist in your imagination but are not what is written.
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