User talk:GiantSnowman

Can I ask your opinion on a footballer draft?

GiantSnowman, I know you're active in the WikiProject and I've seen you posting at AfD's that a player's not notable and to please contact you if sources are found; for example here, where I believed she was notable. I'm kind of bewildered by the change in notability requirements for sportspeople, but I'm a big softie anyway ... and I was puzzled when I tried to improve Draft:Truls Klausen (creation by a now indeffed editor who did a poor job of creating drafts based on foreign-language Wikipedias, including Norwegian, which I can read) and it was rejected anyway. Someone had noted at an AfD that there's a Norwegian media archive search, so post-rejection I looked there for coverage during his playing and coaching career (this is the resulting edit since the rejection). Can I ask you to check it and see whether he just doesn't meet the new standards? He never played internationally, and I may be barking up the wrong tree because of my inclusionist tendencies. I believed it would be defensible at AfD already, but it got rejected again. Many thanks if you can, and sorry to bother you. Yngvadottir (talk) 02:51, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

The article looks good, but I'm struggling to assess sources, partly because of language, and partly because some oft them are paywalled. But, in short, does Mr Klausen have significant coverage in reliable sources? If so, he is notable. GiantSnowman 15:55, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

I had a quick look. Transfermarkt is not considered a reliable source at Wikipedia, you would need to replace it by one from worldfootball.net or the like. See WP:WPFLINKSNO. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 16:51, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Yes, good point, I hadn't even looked at that source tbh. GiantSnowman 16:58, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for looking, both! That and the other directory site are being used for his full name and date of birth; I didn't realise there was a better alternative, worldfootball.net, here it is. I've gone through the sources and will be adding a rundown of them to the article talk page rather than here. Two are indeed paywalled and Wayback has captured only the blanked-out version in both cases. I can sometimes see these things using Firefox's print view option or whatever it's officially called, but I can now only see the first paragraph of one and the first line of another. Pity. The source for the year of his marriage and the children is a weak one, a blog interview with his wife; I haven't been able to find a better one at the news archive, so some of that (year, full number of children) may need to be omitted. But that was intended to fill out his bio, rather than as an indicator of notability. (In the archive search, he is mentioned/pictured a couple of times in local news articles about her dance school; I couldn't find wedding coverage.) I was unable to document the 2 Oslo teams he played for, though I suspect a more expert search of the news archive wopuld shake those loose. Initially, I was concerned that he might be a BLP1E because of the May 1995 event; there is indeed a lot of press coverage of that, I intend to add an additional article from a couple of days later, but I avoided having too much about that. But I found multiple articles all about Klausen himself. So I'll also add links to the newspapers I'm citing, and as I say, I'll discuss the refs on talk. (The Norwegian article is under-referenced.) Yngvadottir (talk) 04:21, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

"multiple articles all about Klausen himself" sounds promising! GiantSnowman 11:15, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Done. Yes, that was why I was confused; the version that was most recently rejected already had two long articles all about him, plus several articles about the collision on the sidelines, and I'd tried to make it acceptable as a biography. Anyway, maybe this will help to either determine that notability is demonstrated or explain how he fails to meet the new standard. (And by the way, thanks again to you, Robby.is.on, and anyone else who takes time to look.) Yngvadottir (talk) 02:42, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

You're welcome. I searched for Klausen at nifs.no (link to search), which is a great resource for Norwegian footballers, but it doesn't seem to have him. Robby.is.on (talk) 11:15, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks again, and for your edits to the draft. I wonder whether he's missing at nifs.no because he was never on the national team? I suppose he's also unusual in that some of the coverage is for his post-play years. Anyway, I'd be very grateful for an opinion on whether the draft now demonstrates notability under current standards (and remember, I've listed and characterised the sources on the talk page). Yngvadottir (talk) 23:09, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

I'd be surprised if the article didn't pass WP:GNG. The sources listed at the Talk page seem to be more local than regional or even national but a cursory looks suggest they cover Klausen in-depth. And the article is nice. Good luck! Robby.is.on (talk) 23:17, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Please sign

You don't seem to have signed here, or am I missing something? Andrewa (talk) 15:17, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

I missed my signature, it happens occasionally - that's why {{unsigned}} exists. GiantSnowman 15:51, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Babssuba

Hi GS. Babssuba (talk · contribs) probably deserves a longer block. All of their edits from today are inaccurate and have been reverted. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 23:02, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

I'd report at AIV/ANI, but they seem to have been quiet overnight so no ongoing disruption. GiantSnowman 12:09, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. Robby.is.on (talk) 13:18, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

82.102.50.120

Included in the massive amount of warnings they have received in their talkpage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:82.102.50.120), i infer that warnings for removal of refs in the infobox are to be counted.

Well, here they are again at it, here (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bernardo_Dias&diff=1122458211&oldid=1117810732; in this page, they also removed a ref i had added back in the day to source the player's nickname!) and here (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Toman%C3%A9&diff=1132045558&oldid=1130893187), the latter "contribution" from yesterday! I have already reverted both, but did not check out for more infractions.

Attentively 2001:8A0:7643:2400:154:89A9:CBA9:4118 (talk) 16:48, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

No edits today, so no ongoing disruption to do anything about. Simply revert, warn, and report at AIV. GiantSnowman 16:57, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Reply to what you sent me

Apologies for the mistake but I believe you're talking to me about the Graeme Shinnie game I added which was actually a league game against St Johnstone apologies if I'm wrong. Moultfan (talk) 22:32, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

You didn't update the date, hence my message. GiantSnowman 19:34, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Sorry :/ thanks for the reply tho . Moultfan (talk) 19:41, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

No apology needed! GiantSnowman 19:43, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

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Another nuisance

I know nothing is going to happen, at least for now, but i report anyway:

per your message here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:2A02:587:EE38:2C00:FD19:B082:5C5C:79CF), this person seems to be up to no good here and if it were me that IP would be already blocked, but i'm not admin so other people must know better.

Example? Just found Jonathan Soriano, note how they try to source an AUSTRIAN accolade using a source from a MATCH IN SPAIN from 2002 (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jonathan_Soriano&diff=next&oldid=1130558387)! Duly reverted by me of course.

Attentively 2001:8A0:7643:2400:9452:64D4:AC6A:CC2B (talk) 07:57, 10 January 2023 (UTC)