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Two random IP addresses visit the talk page of a billionaire who was barely known until he made news this week for collecting Nazi memorabilia and they're defending him? I smell a rat. Or maybe some meat, mixed with some puppets. Who knows. Either way, I'm going to add that fact back into the lead, as that's what this guy is certainly known for right now (just check his Google News hits). If an established editor disagrees with me, I'll be happy to discuss it here. [[User:Fred Zepelin|Fred Zepelin]] ([[User talk:Fred Zepelin|talk]]) 18:47, 10 April 2023 (UTC) |
Two random IP addresses visit the talk page of a billionaire who was barely known until he made news this week for collecting Nazi memorabilia and they're defending him? I smell a rat. Or maybe some meat, mixed with some puppets. Who knows. Either way, I'm going to add that fact back into the lead, as that's what this guy is certainly known for right now (just check his Google News hits). If an established editor disagrees with me, I'll be happy to discuss it here. [[User:Fred Zepelin|Fred Zepelin]] ([[User talk:Fred Zepelin|talk]]) 18:47, 10 April 2023 (UTC) |
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: Here's a small sampling of reliable sources: [[User:Fred Zepelin|Fred Zepelin]] ([[User talk:Fred Zepelin|talk]]) 19:10, 10 April 2023 (UTC) |
: Here's a small sampling of reliable sources: [[User:Fred Zepelin|Fred Zepelin]] ([[User talk:Fred Zepelin|talk]]) 19:10, 10 April 2023 (UTC) |
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:The [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section|Manual of Style for lead sections]] stresses that we must "not violate [[WP:Neutral point of view]] by giving undue attention to less important controversies in the lead section", "avoiding subjective or contentious terms", and "[r]ecent events affecting a subject are kept in historical perspective; most recent is not necessarily most notable." |
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:That's not to say controversies can ''never'' be mentioned, but it seems inaccurate to list it as one of his main occupations. I doubt this will remain in the news for long, clearly he was already considered fairly notable before the current news cycle (there are [[google:Harlan+Crow&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:3/7/2023,cd_max:2/28/2023&tbm=nws|an enormous number of news articles on him from before the last 1-2 months]]; he's a major Republican donor and billionaire!), and this isn't the only aspect of the current controversy (why not "close associate of Clarence Thomas"?); so it seems very unlikely to me that this qualifies. |
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:(If it does qualify, it should clearly be in a separate sentence; the current phrasing is just misleading.) |
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:-[[User:Mugasofer|MugaSofer]] ([[User talk:Mugasofer|talk]]) 19:47, 10 April 2023 (UTC) |
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*[https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/clarence-thomas-harlan-crow-hitler-paintings-nazi-memorabilia-1234711860/ Clarence Thomas’ Billionaire Buddy Has a Vast Collection of Hitler Paintings, Nazi Memorabilia] |
*[https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/clarence-thomas-harlan-crow-hitler-paintings-nazi-memorabilia-1234711860/ Clarence Thomas’ Billionaire Buddy Has a Vast Collection of Hitler Paintings, Nazi Memorabilia] |
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*[https://www.businessinsider.com/clarence-thomas-supreme-court-benefactor-harlan-crow-collects-hitler-nazi-memorabilia Clarence Thomas' benefactor, the billionaire megadonor Harlan Crow, has a collection of Hitler artifacts and Nazi memorabilia] |
*[https://www.businessinsider.com/clarence-thomas-supreme-court-benefactor-harlan-crow-collects-hitler-nazi-memorabilia Clarence Thomas' benefactor, the billionaire megadonor Harlan Crow, has a collection of Hitler artifacts and Nazi memorabilia] |
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Justice Clarence Thomas’s megadonor friend collects Hitler memorabilia – report
"Harlan Crow, closely linked to judge, has a signed copy of Mein Kampf and dictator’s paintings."
"Harlan Crow also reportedly has a garden full of dictator statues."
Some sources. 72.14.126.22 (talk) 17:02, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- It's notable, but doesn't belong in the lead. Normally someone's hobbies and collections don't go there unless that's their main reason for notability. 2607:FEA8:1CC0:2850:A049:9E7A:BD05:1390 (talk) 17:28, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- Agreed. The implications of putting this in the article’s lede are a serious POV issue. 2601:3C1:C100:600:39EC:B6C7:CE45:84D5 (talk) 01:54, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
Two random IP addresses visit the talk page of a billionaire who was barely known until he made news this week for collecting Nazi memorabilia and they're defending him? I smell a rat. Or maybe some meat, mixed with some puppets. Who knows. Either way, I'm going to add that fact back into the lead, as that's what this guy is certainly known for right now (just check his Google News hits). If an established editor disagrees with me, I'll be happy to discuss it here. Fred Zepelin (talk) 18:47, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Here's a small sampling of reliable sources: Fred Zepelin (talk) 19:10, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- The Manual of Style for lead sections stresses that we must "not violate WP:Neutral point of view by giving undue attention to less important controversies in the lead section", "avoiding subjective or contentious terms", and "[r]ecent events affecting a subject are kept in historical perspective; most recent is not necessarily most notable."
- That's not to say controversies can never be mentioned, but it seems inaccurate to list it as one of his main occupations. I doubt this will remain in the news for long, clearly he was already considered fairly notable before the current news cycle (there are an enormous number of news articles on him from before the last 1-2 months; he's a major Republican donor and billionaire!), and this isn't the only aspect of the current controversy (why not "close associate of Clarence Thomas"?); so it seems very unlikely to me that this qualifies.
- (If it does qualify, it should clearly be in a separate sentence; the current phrasing is just misleading.)
- -MugaSofer (talk) 19:47, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
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- Ben Shapiro defends Harlan Crow's Hitler memorabilia and dictator statues
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