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Which mountains?

I suspect that the mountain referred to by the name Jibal are more specifically those mountains that are the headwaters of the Tigris. See Boesch, Hans H. (1939) "El-'Iraq" Economic Geography 15(4): pp. 325-361, page 325, discussion of the name al Jebel for the mountains of Kurdistan. --Bejnar (talk) 00:14, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It was used to refer to a large mountainous area (between Arabian Iraq and the Persian desert). It included at least the middle Zagros range (included cities like Kermanshah, Dinawar, Hamadan, Nahavand and the region of Luristan). In a wider definition, according to Hudud-ul-alam and Mu'jam-ul-buldan, it even included most parts of the Persian Iraq (like Isfahan and Ray and Kashan). for the details you can see the Dehkhoda dictionary [1] or Encyclopedia Islamica [2]. I will expand the article later (it's good to also check EI). Alefbe (talk) 00:43, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Untranslated sources in Arabic (or Persian) are not very useful, compared to English language sources. Wikipedia:Verifiability#Non-English sources Also, where the Zagros end and the next ranges begin seems to vary by author. Map sources can be very useful. --Bejnar (talk) 18:20, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

hatnote removed - why?

@Lithopsian: why did you remove the hatnote to the closely related article of Pahla? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parthavian (talk • contribs) 14:24, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hatnotes at the top of the article are not the place to advertise other articles, closely-related or not. They are for resolving confusion that may arise because of confusing spellings or ambiguous article titles (eg. Sirius and Sirius XM). Ideally, all closely-related articles will be described and linked inside the article, but this isn't always the case in short new articles. In that case, they can be added in a list in a See Also section at the end of the article. Hatnotes at the top of sections are a little more flexible, and they can include {{see also}}, but again it would be better if the section just describes and links closely-related articles instead of creating clutter at the top of the section. Lithopsian (talk) 15:07, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Lithopsian ok thanks for the explanation. I'll maybe create a separate topic about Pahla and put the "main topic" note there. Parthavian (talk) 05:44, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@HistoryofIran: you changed my inputs. please see above discussion and instead of removing all changes, please just adapt the part or make the necessary changes. Removing everything although I've put time into it and try to contribute to the mentioning of "Fahlawi/Pahlawi" is kind of disrespectful. --Parthavian (talk) 13:23, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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 :[[WP:HATNOTE|Hatnotes]] at the top of the article are not the place to advertise other articles, closely-related or not.  They are for resolving confusion that may arise because of confusing spellings or ambiguous article titles (eg. [[Sirius]] and [[Sirius XM]]).  Ideally, all closely-related articles will be described and linked inside the article, but this isn't always the case in short new articles.  In that case, they can be added in a list in a See Also section at the end of the article.  Hatnotes at the top of sections are a little more flexible, and they can include {{T|see also}}, but again it would be better if the section just describes and links closely-related articles instead of creating clutter at the top of the section.  [[User:Lithopsian|Lithopsian]] ([[User talk:Lithopsian|talk]]) 15:07, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
 ::[[User:Lithopsian|@Lithopsian]] ok thanks for the explanation. I'll maybe create a separate topic about Pahla and put the "main topic" note there. [[User:Parthavian|Parthavian]] ([[User talk:Parthavian|talk]]) 05:44, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
+:::{{ping|HistoryofIran}} you changed my inputs. please see above discussion and instead of removing all changes, please just adapt the part or make the necessary changes. Removing everything although I've put time into it and try to contribute to the mentioning of "Fahlawi/Pahlawi" is kind of disrespectful. --[[User:Parthavian|Parthavian]] ([[User talk:Parthavian|talk]]) 13:23, 3 May 2023 (UTC)