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Anomie is still around, mostly to maintain AnomieBOT. But after the WMF proved that office politics are more important to them than seemingly anything else, and otherwise generally seem more concerned with their own image than substance, Anomie is not engaging in technical work on MediaWiki.

Despite T360488 asking them not to, Toolforge admins have gone ahead and broken AnomieBOT's scripts. Keeping things running properly will likely require manual intervention until they fix that or give me a usable workaround.

Live status for all AnomieBOT tasks is available at Toolforge.

Regarding the OrphanReferenceFixer and TagDater, please note:

AnomieBOT is not an anti-vandal bot, so complaints about AnomieBOT "hiding" or not reverting vandalism are out of place here.
- AnomieBOT's current strategy is "wait 10 minutes to an hour or so to let ClueBot, VoABotII, other anti-vandal bots, or RC Patrollers fix the vandalism". I am open to specific suggestions on detecting vandalism, but keep in mind that the false positive rate of any method must be near zero to be useful.
AnomieBOT honors {{inuse}}; please use it if you have excessive edit conflicts.
If the reference errors or undated tags were caused by vandalism, just revert AnomieBOT's edits along with the vandal's. AnomieBOT will not be offended.
If AnomieBOT made a mistake in correcting a reference error or dating a tag, please correct the error by hand and report the URL of the problem diff below. Don't just revert the bot without fixing the error, or AnomieBOT is likely to "fix" it again in the same broken way before I get a chance to fix the bug.
If you have a problem with T11790, please take the issue up there. You will be having the problem with more than just AnomieBOT's edits.

Thank you.

	Regarding deletions, please note:
If you are here because you think AnomieBOT III deleted an article, please check again. AnomieBOT III deletes redirects when someone else deletes the article the redirect pointed to, and you almost certainly want to talk to that person instead.

	Regarding {{old AfD multi}}, please note:
If you are here because AnomieBOT added {{old AfD multi}} to an article when the old AfD was about a different person with the same name, just remove it. The bot has no way to tell whether it's the same person or a different one.

Before requesting a WikiProjectTagger run, please read the following:

The bot can easily handle multiple projects at a time: Everything below can be specified on a per-project basis. If there is significant overlap (e.g. articles in Category:Physicists are likely in the scope of both WP:WikiProject Physics and WP:WikiProject Biography), please consider requesting tagging for all the projects at once.

The terms of the bot's approval require that each WikiProject involved approve the list of categories to be processed. In your request, please link to the discussion on each wikiproject's talk page showing this approval. If you do not do this, I will have to post at the talk pages myself and wait a week for replies. That discussion should address all of the following points:

Specify which categories to process. Including "all subcategories" is possible, but in general is no longer done.
Certain pages will be auto-assessed for class and importance. If any of the below is not acceptable, specify how it should be changed (e.g. "Do not set importance", "Just tag, do not assess", or "Ignore the page, don't even tag it"). In all cases, if it looks like the specified class is not supported by your project's banner I will use class=NA instead.
- Article redirects will be auto-assessed as class=redirect and importance=NA.
- Articles in Category:All disambiguation pages will be auto-assessed as class=disambig and importance=NA.
- Articles in any category ending in "stubs" will be auto-assessed as class=stub, unless they are already assessed as something else by your project.
- All other articles will be tagged with no assessment. This can be turned off, if for some reason you only want stubs, redirects, disambiguation pages, and/or non-article pages tagged.
- Non-article pages will be assessed with the appropriate class (e.g. "category", "template", "image") and importance=NA. Action (and class) may be specified per namespace. Note this is not necessary for {{WPBannerMeta}}-based banners, as the assessment is done automatically there.
The bot can canonicalize redirects to the project banner, for example replacing {{cvgproj}} with {{WikiProject Video games}}. This will only be done if the page is going to be edited anyway, it will not be the only reason for editing the page. If you want this done, say so.
The bot can add arbitrary extra parameters to the template, based on categories, page contents, talk page categories, or talk page contents. For example, it can add task force parameters, and it can do things like "Add living=yes if it is in Category:Living people, or living=no if it is in Category:XXXX deaths/executions, Category:XXXXs deaths/executions, Category:XXth century deaths/executions, Category:XXth millennium BC deaths, or Category:Date/Year of death missing/unknown". If you want any extra parameters set, specify what they are and under what conditions to add them. If you want the bot to remove existing parameters under certain conditions, that can be done too.
The bot can also skip individual articles, based on categories, page contents, talk page categories, or talk page contents. For example, if WikiProject Foo wanted all articles in Category:Foo tagged unless they were also in Category:Bar or tagged by WikiProject Baz, that can easily be done.

Thank you.

Archives

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Tag dater not working

Hello, the maintenance tag dater appears to not be working ... it's last edit is this one. I noticed this because tags weren't dated after recent edits to the Columbian exchange article. If you could look into this, that'd be great. Thanks! Graham87 01:04, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, restarted. Looks like a database outage had caused various jobs to stop. Anomie ⚔ 12:26, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Minor issue

I'm trying to repoint Claisen-Schmidt reaction (which is a redirect), from Aldol condensation to Claisen-Schmidt condensation but AnomieBOT keeps overwriting me. Any ideas? Project Osprey (talk) 14:41, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher) @Project Osprey: It's because Claisen–Schmidt reaction redirects to Aldol condensation. The two redirects Claisen-Schmidt reaction (with hyphen) and Claisen–Schmidt reaction (with en-dash) must be kept in synch. Since these are both long-standing redirects, having existed since June 2017, you should take them to WP:RFD and get approval for them to be retargetted. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 15:56, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I'd missed that, I thought there was only 1 redirect. So, I need to repoint 'en-dash' first and 'AnomieBOT-guarded-hyphen' second? I'm not sure RFD is needed, it's pretty clear cut in my mind (also, nothing links to them, so no harm done) Project Osprey (talk) 16:13, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

TFDClerk

Would you mind updating this to change the "browser" bar added to use appropriate HTML rather than the table? I think you could just do it by transcluding {{left}} and {{right}}, but if you don't want to use templates, you can steal the implementation from there. Izno (talk) 22:40, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Has there been discussion about this proposal at WT:TFD? With the specific change requested? Anomie ⚔ 12:59, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm asking under the auspices of WP:ACCESS. Tables should not be used for presentation. Izno (talk) 02:13, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And I'm asking for people at WT:TFD to do the redesign of the pages for that process, rather than one random bot op. Anomie ⚔ 12:56, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Er, what? I'm not asking as a random bot op (are you trying to say that you're the random bot op?), I'm asking as one of the admins who regularly participates and closes at WP:TFD. I was requesting a same form-fit-function replacement, just not using a table.

Or are you just unsure what that replacement looks like in HTML? I can sketch it out if you prefer.

I'm mostly just confused by your response as the guideline of interest is clear (WP:ACCESS) and a change to support that guideline doesn't need its own separate consensus. It's a clear and obvious improvement to boot. Izno (talk) 05:01, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'm referring to myself as a random bot op. Why are you so opposed to just starting a discussion about this at WT:TFD? Probably you'll get mostly WP:SILENCE with one or two "sure, good idea" replies, but then if someone complains later I can point them to the discussion there. Anomie ⚔ 12:47, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Mostly that seems like unnecessary hassle for the exact same end as you think will occur, especially now that you've pulled the rationale out of me and this could be the discussion pointed to instead. :) But I will go invite users from there to here, so as not to repeat myself. Izno (talk) 20:06, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Izno: I've just updated the bot to use something equivalent to {{subst:TfD log day}} to fetch the header. You should now be able to edit that as you'd like. Anomie ⚔ 14:46, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Articles with disproportional geographic scope nominated for deletion

Note that Category:Articles with disproportional geographic scope and its monthly subcategories have been nominated for deletion here. Posting it here since AnomieBOT creates its monthly subcategories, which would need to be stopped if deleted. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 05:02, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If Category:Articles with disproportional geographic scope is removed from Category:Wikipedia maintenance categories sorted by month (and also not added to Category:Wikipedia categories sorted by month), AnomieBOT will no longer create dated subcategories. Anomie ⚔ 12:58, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

BAGBot?

Seems that this task hasn't run since the start of March - the main BRFA page since end of Feb and the BAG status page for about 5 days now. Thanks! Primefac (talk) 11:58, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like some Toolforge issues took out a few tasks with DB errors on the 6th. Restarted. Anomie ⚔ 12:22, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent, thanks. Primefac (talk) 08:35, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious tag

AnomieBOT left a "dubious" tag on Pope County Militia War concerning officials "took measures intended to influence the Arkansas governor to declare martial law in the county." I've changed that to "attempted to get the Arkansas governor to declare martial law in the county several times."

That officials did that is well documented in the text and references. I've also discussed that on Talk:Pope County Militia War and have removed the "dubious" tag. Caronde (talk) 23:24, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Caronde, not that it matters much, but the tag was added here by a different editor, all the bot did was add a date. You might want to go talk to FloridaArmy if you have issues with their tag. Primefac (talk) 08:35, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. It makes sense that a bot would NOT make such a subjective change (I think). I don't think it matters. I've made repairs, issues are fixed. Caronde (talk) 18:15, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is AnomieBOT chartered to collapse vertical formatting?

Hi,
In this edit , the bot appears to have made a change to cite web, which doesn't appear on the subst list; unless I've missed something, all it did was collapse the (perfectly acceptable) vertical formatting that was in place. Was that an intended effect? Thanks, NapoliRoma (talk) 22:50, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The bot substed {{site web}} (note spelling), which redirects to {{cite web.}} (note period), which is flagged for bot substitution. Anomie ⚔ 23:58, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ha! Completely missed that. It turns out there was an odd apparent vandalism edit that changed "cite" to "site" a few minutes before the bot edit.

(It'd still be nice if the bot didn't take out vertical formatting, but I assume that's an artifact of the subst-ing process.) Regards, NapoliRoma (talk) 06:05, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It would happen if you manually did the substing too. AnomieBOT doesn't do anything special there. Anomie ⚔ 12:12, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I suspected -- thanks again. NapoliRoma (talk) 18:32, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Substitution of pin templates

There appears to be a problem with this, I just reverted one at WT:Verifiability, and having checked three at random none are {{pin}} templates they are all failed {{ping}} templates. Apparently this is a common misspelling. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 22:55, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See my below post. I was going to make this after I saw you revert that edit. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 22:58, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks I did not know about the RFD, I'd suggest these need to be mass reverted. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 23:08, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ignore pin

Can AnomieBOT ignore all instances of {{pin}} prior to today until the cleanup is finished (Unless it already is)? Prior to today it was a redirect to {{ping}} but after an RFD outcome it now redirects to {{pin section}} which should be substed. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 22:57, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Would have been better to not do the redirect change until after you finish the cleanup. For the moment I've removed the |auto=yes= from Template:Pin section/doc. Anomie ⚔ 23:36, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, but they redirected it prior to the cleanup so not much we can really do. Thanks. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 23:41, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In case it helps, here's a list of pages where AnomieBOT has substed {{pin}} for you to check:

Anomie ⚔ 23:45, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and went through the list after all. Anomie ⚔ 00:00, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For those coming "cold" to this, Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 6#Template:Pin was closed as retarget, and then actioned in the wrong order. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 00:17, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Manual trigger?

Is there a way to trigger this bot manually? Often after a big edit I'd love to ask it to rescue references ... Bon courage (talk) 08:28, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, there isn't. The bot will likely get to the article on its own before too long. Anomie ⚔ 11:35, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CfD header has changed

Can you please tell your bot not to do this? Thanks. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:14, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why is User:ProveIt creating the pages months in advance instead of letting the bot do it, and where is the canonical source for the header? Anomie ⚔ 13:13, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Found a possible answer to the second question, apparently a few years back someone created Template:CFD log day and similar templates. Anomie ⚔ 13:23, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Updated the bot to make use of that template. Still wondering why ProveIt is doing semi-automated botting here though. Anomie ⚔ 13:58, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Probably because they've been doing it since before AnomieBOT clerked at CfD. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:43, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Near as I can tell, I started making CfD pages around February 2008... if your bot will do it, let me know and I'll stop - Prove It ^(talk) 19:25, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AnomieBOT will create the day's page at about 23:00 UTC the night before. It has been able to do so since late 2016, although it seems you (and others?) have never forgotten long enough for it to have a chance to do so. Anomie ⚔ 11:31, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I would prefer to do them further in advance, just in case... Anyway, we've now come to the last of my premade pages, we will find out this evening if it builds the page for May 8th or not. -- Prove It ^(talk) 14:00, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wrongly deleted a redirect

From Winton F.C. (Glasgow) to Apsley F.C. (Scotland).In Vitrio (talk) 15:43, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher) @In Vitrio: The article Apsley F.C. (Scotland) was created at 12:04, 4 April 2023 (UTC). It did not exist when the redir was deleted at 11:38. The bot was acting correctly. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:36, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Beaufort River

This edit makes no sense to me at all, so I've reverted it. Could someone investigate please, just in case there's something that can be adjusted to prevent it happening again. Mitch Ames (talk) 00:23, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

An IP vandalized, changing a template on the page to one that is marked to be bot-substituted. About 16 minutes later AnomieBOT came along and did so. Reverting the bot's edit and the IP's vandalism was the correct thing to do. Anomie ⚔ 02:06, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That much I deduced already. What I didn't understand was why the bot put a user template onto an article page. But now I see: the original {{Use Australian English}} is an article template but {{Use English}} (redirects to {{Uw-notenglishtalk}}) is a user template. I had just incorrectly assumed that Use English was also article-space. (Now that I think about it, Use English makes no sense in articles - all articles here are in English; the point of Use Xxxx English is to define the variant.) Mitch Ames (talk) 02:58, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Remove "If you own the global account, please ensure you have included a confirmation link. "

This seems to be a vestige of pre-SUL finalization and serves no purpose. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:55, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On user page :Nichole Ouellette

allo on my user page did you deleted this picture Iris versicolor.jpg for a purpose or it is an accident Nichole Ouellette (talk) 17:53, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) @Nichole Ouellette: The AnomieBOT software did not remove the picture. It was removed by your earlier edit, Special:Diff/1150875630. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:26, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GAR page

@Anomie:, would it be possible for you to reorder the User:AnomieBOT/C/Wikipedia good article reassessment page so that the oldest reassessments are located at the bottom, rather than the top? Thanks. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:08, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Configuration for that task is on-wiki at User:AnomieBOT/CategoryLister/Categories. You may want to be sure that other people who use it (e.g. those with {{WikiProjectGATasks}} on their user pages) want this change, though, as they may like having the older articles first. Anomie ⚔ 12:38, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus has been gained from the GAR coords at WT:GAR. Also, I don't believe I can edit that configuration page. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 02:26, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Je veux que vous m'aidiez à ajouter la catégorie https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Anas_Yan

Pouvez-vous changer des choses sur la page ? Darifi11 (talk) 21:56, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AnomieBOT is a bot. It only does what it is programmed to, it cannot do generic edits. Anomie ⚔ 11:36, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::::: Near as I can tell, I started making CfD pages around February 2008... if your bot will do it, let me know and I'll stop - <i>[[User:ProveIt|Prove It]] <sup>[[User talk:ProveIt|(talk)]]</sup></i> 19:25, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 :::::: AnomieBOT will create the day's page at about 23:00 UTC the night before. It has been able to do so since [[Special:Diff/752355559/752408222|late 2016]], although it seems you (and others?) have never forgotten long enough for it to have a chance to do so. [[User:Anomie|Anomie]][[User talk:Anomie|⚔]] 11:31, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
+::::::: I would prefer to do them further in advance, just in case...  Anyway, we've now come to the last of my premade pages, we will find out this evening if it builds the page for May 8th or not. -- <i>[[User:ProveIt|Prove It]] <sup>[[User talk:ProveIt|(talk)]]</sup></i> 14:00, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 ==Wrongly deleted a redirect==