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== everything else in the article, with regard to Vietnam and China in the 50s and 80s, this is complete nonsense ==

the story about North Vietnam is just a complete lie, the authors of the article contradict themselves in everything, then they give citizenship to the Chinese voluntarily, then they take it by force, then they take citizenship, then they give it away and no one forcibly expelled any Chinese from Cambodia on a national basis, genocide them as since the Khmer Rouge, you also don’t write about the difficulties in South Vietnam, ordinary Chinese and citizens of the PRC, and not the business elite who lived there, well, actually the repressions against the business elite of South Vietnam were of a socio-political nature, and not national, so just like in the PRC, such repressions were precisely of a socio-political nature and, in fact, it was precisely the crisis of Sino-Vietnamese relations that led to accusations of espionage and support of a foreign enemy, and not vice versa, and, in general, relations in northern Vietnam itself, relations between local Chinese and Vietnamese until relations in the late 70s were normal, just as the accusations of the PRC in the negotiations between Vietnam and the Americans look ridiculous, although they themselves made friends with America in the late 60s and occupied the Paracelsus Islands in the early 70s, and everything else in the article, with regard to Vietnam and China in the 50s and 80s, this is complete nonsense [[Special:Contributions/37.54.230.242|37.54.230.242]] ([[User talk:37.54.230.242|talk]]) 14:02, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

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"Today, there are many Hoa communities in Australia, Oceania, Canada, France and the United States, where they have been instrumental in breathing new life into old existing Chinatowns"

non-encyclopedic language, no citation, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.29.60.79 (talkcontribs) 01:57, 11 November 2010‎

Chinese founded dynasties in Vietnam

Au Lac
http://books.google.com/books?id=rCl_02LnNVIC&pg=PA19#v=onepage&q&f=false
Trieu dynasty
http://books.google.com/books?id=rCl_02LnNVIC&pg=PA23#v=onepage&q&f=false
Ly dynasty
http://books.google.com/books?id=rCl_02LnNVIC&pg=PA135#v=onepage&q&f=false
Tran dynasty
http://books.google.com/books?id=P2HP31kOSA4C&pg=PA120#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=gyPjBevBHxcC&pg=PA159#v=onepage&q&f=false
Ho dynasty
http://books.google.com/books?id=P2HP31kOSA4C&pg=PA166#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=P2HP31kOSA4C&pg=PA166#v=onepage&q&f=false

-- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajmaan (talkcontribs) 20:11, 12 July 2014‎

Minh Huong

Settlement in Nguyen Lord territory in South Vietnam in 1679

Trần Thượng Xuyên 陳上川

Dương Ngạn Địch 楊彥迪

-- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajmaan (talkcontribs) 20:14, 12 July 2014‎

everything else in the article, with regard to Vietnam and China in the 50s and 80s, this is complete nonsense

the story about North Vietnam is just a complete lie, the authors of the article contradict themselves in everything, then they give citizenship to the Chinese voluntarily, then they take it by force, then they take citizenship, then they give it away and no one forcibly expelled any Chinese from Cambodia on a national basis, genocide them as since the Khmer Rouge, you also don’t write about the difficulties in South Vietnam, ordinary Chinese and citizens of the PRC, and not the business elite who lived there, well, actually the repressions against the business elite of South Vietnam were of a socio-political nature, and not national, so just like in the PRC, such repressions were precisely of a socio-political nature and, in fact, it was precisely the crisis of Sino-Vietnamese relations that led to accusations of espionage and support of a foreign enemy, and not vice versa, and, in general, relations in northern Vietnam itself, relations between local Chinese and Vietnamese until relations in the late 70s were normal, just as the accusations of the PRC in the negotiations between Vietnam and the Americans look ridiculous, although they themselves made friends with America in the late 60s and occupied the Paracelsus Islands in the early 70s, and everything else in the article, with regard to Vietnam and China in the 50s and 80s, this is complete nonsense 37.54.230.242 (talk) 14:02, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]