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: Let's not get into the [[Chiang Kai-Shek]] topic. I agree your opinion. The picture is now changed back. If the user tries to change it back again, we will try to get the template protected. <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">AQu01rius</font> <small>([[User:AQu01rius|User]]&nbsp;&#149;&nbsp;[[User_talk:AQu01rius|Talk]])</small> 19:31, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
: Let's not get into the [[Chiang Kai-Shek]] topic. I agree your opinion. The picture is now changed back. If the user tries to change it back again, we will try to get the template protected. <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">AQu01rius</font> <small>([[User:AQu01rius|User]]&nbsp;&#149;&nbsp;[[User_talk:AQu01rius|Talk]])</small> 19:31, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Chiang Kai-shek was an honorable man who protected the Free Republic of China. He should be respected and not compared to Mussolini. You guys should not make controversial comments like that [[User:Alex678|Alex678]] 01:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


== Selected articles/pictures on Portal page ==
== Selected articles/pictures on Portal page ==

Revision as of 01:56, 21 March 2007

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WikiProject iconThis page is within the scope of WikiProject Taiwan, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Taiwan on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
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Zhongzheng Memorial

Are you guys okay with having Zhongzheng Memorial as the image for our project banner? I thought it was one the more symbolized structure of Taiwan. AQu01rius (User &#149; Talk) 17:28, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Something more 'Taiwan' would be better. Wenzi 00:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I prefer Taipei 101. CKS Memorial is the symbol of Taiwan's past, the martial law era, and I think we should go with something that symbolizes the future of Taiwan. 23:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I vote for Taipei 101. --Ideogram 07:54, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Why is it changed back again?--Jerrypp772000 01:56, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Guess who? -Loren 06:40, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can you get rid of the Chiang Kao-shek Memorial? Is the WikiItaly page fronted by a pic of Mussolini? There are so many things that can symbolize Taiwan. Localization movements have focused on nature, especially Jade Mountain (Yu Shan). A nice pic of that would make a much better statement about Taiwan. If you want something recognized, go with Taipei 101. But CKS? He shot thousands of people in Taiwan.... Michael Turton

Let's not get into the Chiang Kai-Shek topic. I agree your opinion. The picture is now changed back. If the user tries to change it back again, we will try to get the template protected. AQu01rius (User &#149; Talk) 19:31, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Chiang Kai-shek was an honorable man who protected the Free Republic of China. He should be respected and not compared to Mussolini. You guys should not make controversial comments like that Alex678 01:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Selected articles/pictures on Portal page

Hi, can anyone come up with a way that everyone can add/edit items for upcoming:

  • Selected article
  • Selected biography
  • Selected picture
  • Did you know

So that we have a monthly selection prepared at least 3 months in advance? — Nrtm81 10:08, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can we organize it the way it is organized in Portal:China right now? AQu01rius (User &#149; Talk) 21:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Can you change the templates so that it functions like Wikipedia:Today's featured article/November 2006. So that selected articles/biography/picture will display automatically each month (or every day, if anyone is dedicated enough to find and add articles in advance). — Nrtm81 02:29, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's already set that way, but I just fixed the title so it's more clear. Should we put a article nomination place, or just discuss next month's selected page in talk pages? AQu01rius (User &#149; Talk) 07:35, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've just created Wikipedia:WikiProject Taiwan/Selected articles. How about a page like that? If it's not good, then you can list it for speedy deletion. — Nrtm81 09:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I created a similar page on Portal:Taiwan a while ago, Portal:Taiwan/Selected article and pictures. AQu01rius (User &#149; Talk) 00:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
( b^ 0^)b w00t — Nrtm81 00:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ethnicities in Taiwan

71.106.149.53 keeps deleting this image from Demographics of Taiwan. He says it is inaccurate and accuses it of being PRC propaganda. Is it incorrect to call Hakka and Minnan people Han Chinese? And is the image violating NPOV? — Nrtm81 06:41, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, maybe that guy is a nut, he's gone off to write "non-Han Chinese" in Hakka and Hoklo people. I hate it when people get all political... — Nrtm81 07:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I uploaded a newer image at Commons which replaced "Han Chinese" with just "Chinese". I hope it's OK, since that seemed to be the only issue that person had over the image. If there's any objection please leave me a message on my talk page. — Nrtm81 22:53, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone ever look at this page? lol. There's a bigger issue now, see Talk:Taiwanese people. There is a view that Taiwanese (Hoklo & Hakka) are no longer Chinese and should be regarded seperately as "Taiwanese" and not Chinese. I think it's based on the claim that over 88% of Taiwanese have aboriginal blood. If anyone in Taiwan can find the research or any source to support this claim, please help out. — Nrtm81 01:59, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Shouldn't spend too much time arguing with these kind of people. But I'll see what I can look up... AQu01rius (User &#149; Talk) 07:44, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This problem still exists. I suggest the articles that are controversial be semi-protected, such as:

There is an anonymous user who is definitely pushing a POV agenda. I noticed his recent edits in Demographics of Taiwan, where he has changed the text under Nationality which said Taiwanese are officially "Chinese citizens" (fact) to "Taiwanese citizens". Other things is to change anything "Chinese" to "Taiwanese" such as the population of ROC is 98% Taiwanese instead of 98% Chinese — Nrtm81 04:11, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Taiwanese are not officially Chinese citizens, and being a Chinese citizen is not an ethnicity. It would be better to use the systems used by the locals themselves, who divide Taiwan into four broad groups, Mainlanders (post-1945 Chinese immigrants), Taiwanese (pre-1945), Hakkas, and aborigines. The term "Taiwanese" is confusing because it can designate any or all those groups. -- Michael Turton

Awards

User:Miborovsky have created this image (see left) a while ago. While it's unsuitable for WikiProject China, I think it will suit perfectly for WikiProject Taiwan. It combines together the Wikipedian barnstar and the Blue Sky White Sun Medal of Honor together. Should we use this image for our awards template? AQu01rius (User &#149; Talk) 01:13, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer something original and Taiwan related. =) Jumping cheese Cont@ct 06:55, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 20:30, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ROC Barnstar of National Merit

Hi,

Didn't see an ROC BoNM, so I made one. It was pretty tricky to make, too:

{{subst:BoNM-ROC|message ~~~~ }}

...gets you

The Republic of China (ROC) Barnstar of Merit 
This is a test of the barnstar system. Had this been a real barnstar, you would have been notified. Ling.Nut 22:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome. AQu01rius (User &#149; Talk) 23:04, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good -- but I'd also recommend having a version that would be akin to the shape of Taiwan like the one on the DPP flag, and perhaps one more that somehow harmonizes the colors blue and green, as variations. --Nlu (talk) 23:16, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I can do that.. maybe tonight, maybe tomorrow; depends on how many chores my better half has planned for me to do ;-) --Ling.Nut 23:42, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Erm, what do you think:

The Republic of China (ROC) Barnstar of Merit 
test Ling.Nut 05:30, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

--Ling.Nut 05:30, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good to me. Barnstar of National Merit doesn't suit Taiwan's complex identity very well though. I don't know... AQu01rius (User &#149; Talk) 06:51, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's what all the barnstars of this type are called. Here's what to type: {{subst:BoNM-ROC2|message ~~~~ }} --Ling.Nut 13:17, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good to me. --Nlu (talk) 16:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(undent) to avoid fistfights etc. I'm just gonna take out the word "national." That should be safe. --Ling.Nut 16:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is my opinion that removing "National" is in fact POV (since it then put ROC at a lower stature than PRC), and with Ling.Nut's consent, I've reverted the two templates. Even if one believes that ROC's not a "nation" now, it clearly was for much of its history. --Nlu (talk) 17:08, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Joining to the project

Hi there, i have seen the project and it seems so interesting. :D , How do i join in?. --HappyApple 21:54, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Hello. Currently, I am working on the police system in Taiwan. It is named by National Police Agency (Republic of China). I would like to make that topic as a part of WikiProject Taiwan. However, I am not sure it is OK or not. Plus, I am just a new kid in the town. Please help me to do it and do it right.Chcyang

The Republic of China Copyright Code, article 50 state:

以中央或地方機關或公法人名義公開發表之著作,在合理範圍內,得重製或公開播送。[1]

I think that there should be a image copyright/fair use tag to tag the ROC governmental images with this explanation (which I would translate as "Works publicly published under the authorship of a central government or local government agency, or of a public legal person, may be reproduced or publicly transmitted within reasonable bounds"), but I don't deal a whole lot with images and templates. Perhaps someone might be interested in taking a stab at it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nlu (talkcontribs) 17:34, 10 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Naming Conventions

I think we should have different naming conventions than the ones in WP:China. It is confusing sometimes, because most of the people have their family names presented first, but some are presented last, such as Chien-Ming Wang. The names of the Taiwanese people are different from the names of the Chinese people, the Taiwanese names have a dash in between. So I think we should create new naming conventions for Taiwanese people.--Jerrypp772000 02:21, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Chinese Naming Conventions mentions about the use of Wade-Giles, so it shouldn't be that confusing. AQu01rius (User &#149; Talk) 01:19, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Soliciting comments: Double Ten Day

Hi all, I'm soliciting comments at Talk:Double_Ten_Day#RfC:_inclusion_as_a_Chinese_holiday. Would appreciate community input. Thanks. Wl219 21:57, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article about Shin Wen-Bing, a former president of Southern Taiwan University of Technology, may be deleted unless reliable references are added to the article. Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shin Wen-Bing. Perhaps an interwiki link could be added to the Chinese-language article on this person if one exists. --Eastmain 02:45, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion is now over, and the result was Keep. AQu01rius (User &#149; Talk) 19:26, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Naming conventions

Please join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject China#Naming conventions. --Ideogram 17:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I created an article for Shu Chin-chiang, Taiwan novelist and leader of Taiwan Solidarity Union. It is still a stub and I welcome the Taiwan project editors to expand it. Wooyi 00:09, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Love Boat" nominated for deletion

Folks may want to comment on the AfD for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Overseas Chinese Youth Language Training and Study Tour to the Republic of China (or the Taiwan "Love Boat" program). Wl219 14:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sun Yat-sen Memorial Hall

Sun Yat-sen Memorial Hall: Why does this article have a high importance for Taiwan? I don't think it's that important, I mean it might be important to the ROC but this is WikiProject Taiwan.--Jerrypp772000 23:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow how ironic. Jerry says that Republic of China is equal to Taiwan. Then he says SYS Memorial Hall is important for the ROC but this is wikiproject Taiwan, meaning that he admits Taiwan and the ROC is not equal. How ironic. You hypocrite. Alex678 23:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I never said they were equal.--Jerrypp772000 00:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]