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::::I think what you're overlooking here is that the thrice blocked editor added the NPOV tag as a tenditious act. My comments were directly relevant to that tenditous act, they were not in violation of WP:NOPERSONALATTACKS, I stand by them. I'm not asking to have them reinstated, as the issue has since been resolved, I would just ask you to consider that your actions may be inadvertently covering for tenditious actions. I appreciate your focus on keeping things civil, but please don't [[Paradox of tolerance|push civility to the point it benefits the uncivil.]] [[User:Crescent77|Crescent77]] ([[User talk:Crescent77|talk]]) 22:20, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
::::I think what you're overlooking here is that the thrice blocked editor added the NPOV tag as a tenditious act. My comments were directly relevant to that tenditous act, they were not in violation of WP:NOPERSONALATTACKS, I stand by them. I'm not asking to have them reinstated, as the issue has since been resolved, I would just ask you to consider that your actions may be inadvertently covering for tenditious actions. I appreciate your focus on keeping things civil, but please don't [[Paradox of tolerance|push civility to the point it benefits the uncivil.]] [[User:Crescent77|Crescent77]] ([[User talk:Crescent77|talk]]) 22:20, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::Yes, the user added the NPOV tag. Yes, you made comments about it. You claimed that the other user had "again become impatient" and then claimed that they were repeatedly making bad faith edits with the words "latest tendentious tactic." The fact that you are suggesting that there is still an issue with the other editor is a point I have been trying to make. If there is a problem, take it to an admin or a board. If there is not a problem or the problem has been resolved, then don't suggest that there is a problem or still is a problem. Remember, [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|comment ''on content'', not on the ''contributor''.]] Additionally, it is impossible for me to conceal another user's edits as I don't have any permissions related to it. [[Special:Contributions]] allows anyone to see edits and the content made by another user as long as they have not been oversighted or suppressed. You can also use [[Template:Diff]] or [[Special:Diff]] to link to them. For example, [[Special:Diff/50000000|this is technically the 50,000,000th edit made to Wikipedia.]] Currently, there have been roughly 1,183,538,200 edits as seen with [[Special:Diff/1183538200]]. This allows the Wiki the ability to see who has done what and take action if necessary. --[[User:Super Goku V|Super Goku V]] ([[User talk:Super Goku V#top|talk]]) 22:57, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::Yes, the user added the NPOV tag. Yes, you made comments about it. You claimed that the other user had "again become impatient" and then claimed that they were repeatedly making bad faith edits with the words "latest tendentious tactic." The fact that you are suggesting that there is still an issue with the other editor is a point I have been trying to make. If there is a problem, take it to an admin or a board. If there is not a problem or the problem has been resolved, then don't suggest that there is a problem or still is a problem. Remember, [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|comment ''on content'', not on the ''contributor''.]] Additionally, it is impossible for me to conceal another user's edits as I don't have any permissions related to it. [[Special:Contributions]] allows anyone to see edits and the content made by another user as long as they have not been oversighted or suppressed. You can also use [[Template:Diff]] or [[Special:Diff]] to link to them. For example, [[Special:Diff/50000000|this is technically the 50,000,000th edit made to Wikipedia.]] Currently, there have been roughly 1,183,538,200 edits as seen with [[Special:Diff/1183538200]]. This allows the Wiki the ability to see who has done what and take action if necessary. --[[User:Super Goku V|Super Goku V]] ([[User talk:Super Goku V#top|talk]]) 22:57, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::Once again, my problem was resolved with the sanctioning of said editor and the removal of the NPOV tag. Where am I suggesting "that there still is an issue with the other editor"? [[User:Crescent77|Crescent77]] ([[User talk:Crescent77|talk]]) 04:56, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Revision as of 04:56, 5 November 2023

grammar and spelling

In regard to an edit request regarding Bob Saget's high school graduation class year, you typed source instead of sourced and addended instead of attended. I was having trouble figuring out what you had changed in the article. I am hoping you will make the corrections on [1], because from my understanding, I am not able to, unless I have your permission. Thank you! 73.167.238.120 (talk) 02:52, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have fixed my reply on the talk page. As for my changes, this is the edit I made. As you can see, I have removed the year that he graduated from the article. The line currently reads, "The family would then move back to Philadelphia prior to his senior year with Saget graduating from Abington Senior High School." Currently our sources are split between 1974 and 1975, so we would need a separate discussion to decide what to do. You have permission to start that discussion on the talk page, regardless of my support or not to it. The thing you cannot do currently is edit the article as it is indefinitely protected due to persistent vandalism. Only autoconfirmed users can edit the article and only registered users can become autoconfirmed users to my knowledge. I hope that clears things up a bit. --Super Goku V (talk) 19:34, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I just noticed that you attempted to edit my comments and was reverted by another user. There is a policy that discourages editing other users comments because of spelling mistakes. I have fixed my comments up to this point and will try to not make further mistakes, but if I do make mistakes the best thing to do is ignore them. If a mistake makes my wording unclear, just reply to me with a question for clarification on that talk page. --Super Goku V (talk) 20:11, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for responding! I see there was an editor on another IP address who edited your comments and then the comments were reverted, so I am not sure who the editor was or the location of the editor. I responded on [2]. I appreciate your answers and see there is currently no year listed as to when Bob Saget graduated high school, because of conflicting sources. I appreciate the information you provided! 73.167.238.120 (talk) 20:40, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Then I apologize for the misidentification and for assuming because of that. For the rest, no problem. Feel free to start a sub-discussion if you wish. --Super Goku V (talk) 14:54, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Apology accepted! Understood, thanks again! 73.167.238.120 (talk) 03:04, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Bob Saget

On 13 January 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Bob Saget, which you substantially updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Bloom6132 (talk) 23:20, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Novak Djokovic 2020 career timeline has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 11:48, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

FAQ brackets in Elon Musk FAQ

Hi. The actual text of WP:NPOV has "representing" not "represent", and I believe the proper way to indicate removed letters from a quoted word is with empty brackets, i.e. "represent[]". QRep2020 (talk) 01:54, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, hello. I am unaware of using brackets at the end of a quoted word to indicate a spelling change, I was under the impression that the entire word should be placed in brackets, but I will revert back because I didn't know the word was changed from the source. --Super Goku V (talk) 04:11, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I feel "represent" is not a word that should ever be "smuggled" into a quotation even on account of a tense change, but maybe I am overthinking it? Perhaps MJL knows best in all their wisdom? QRep2020 (talk) 07:57, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@QRep2020: I would normally use brackets around the word to indicate a change in phrasing (ie. [represent]), but according to the article on brackets (permalink) represent[] works, too (just haven't seen it before). –MJLTalk 17:06, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, friend! QRep2020 (talk) 17:48, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't get a notification about additional replies to this, but it seems that everything worked out in the end. Both of you have my thanks for your help in correcting my mistake and for explaining something I did not know. --Super Goku V (talk) 11:34, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Doly Gringy" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Doly Gringy and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 3#Doly Gringy until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:17, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A Barnstar For You

The Detective Barnstar
You did an amazing job locating all the references to finally get the Hurricane Ian death toll caught up and end a discussion about inconsistencies. Well done!!! Elijahandskip (talk) 13:48, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Elijahandskip: Thank you for the Barnstar. I hope that that is all correct to date, but I will admit that I could only find what the sheriff's office reported for Lee and Charlotte with the rest being the official totals from the medical examiners in each county. There might still be a county that has a sheriff's office reporting a higher toll. There was a source with a list of deaths in each county that had a higher toll for one of the counties that starts with a H, but it was a early source and it isn't currently reflected in later sources. (Sadly forgot which source and which county.) Still, this is as accurate as I can currently find. Sadly, I have yet to find a source for the direct/indirect deaths for the missing citation in the infobox, so that might end up removed. Hopefully I can figure out why the grouped citation is causing the spacing issue in the References section as it was already a struggle to get it to work and I would rather not need to replace it. (At least that only needed three sources unlike the seven on the talk page.) --Super Goku V (talk) 04:11, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Super Goku V,

The way draftifications are currently held is that they are done ONCE. If the page creator objects and moves the article from Draft space to main space, it should not be moved to Draft space a second time. If you find the article deficient, you should either work on improving the article, tag it for the problems it contains or use one of our deletion processes like CSD or AFD. So, please, look at the page history and if an article has been draftified once, don't do it a second time, no matter how tempting it might be. Thank you! Liz Read! Talk! 05:53, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: I am sorry for the trouble. I thought I was following the rules at Category:Pending AfC submissions in article space and misunderstood Eagleash's talk page message to the user. (After seeing your message and rereading Eagleash's again, I now understand where I made the mistake.) I have made an adjustment to some setting and this should not occur again. Thank you for the explanation and for fixing my mistake. --Super Goku V (talk) 06:19, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for letting me know that my talk page's size was completely out of control. I really appreciate it. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:30, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Possible next steps

After there latest comment on their talk page, I think the editor your raised a matter with on my behalf might need to see an ANI discussion. Would you agree, or do you think that is necessary? I'm fed up seeing them justify harassment (it was more than just once) and refuse to accept reliable sources as reliable sources, but maybe I have blood in my eyes. ~ Pbritti (talk) 04:33, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Given that you are the more experienced editor, I would say that if you believe an ANI discussion is needed, then it likely is warranted. To me, there are somewhat on the new side with just under 2,500 edits, but at the same time they have been around since 2006 and should be understanding not to do things that people ask them not to do, among other things. I will say that I have concerns regarding things, especially with how many reverts there are in the last few days. (I am somewhat convinced that a WP:RFPP discussion would cause the article to be given full protection.) --Super Goku V (talk) 05:19, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Pbritti: Hmm. Do you have a Discord account by chance? If so, I think I would feel more comfortable discussing things there. --Super Goku V (talk) 06:03, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have one I use, but you're welcome to use the email feature. I apologize for the inconvenience. ~ Pbritti (talk) 06:54, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. I think I did it correctly. (IF not, please let me know.) --Super Goku V (talk) 06:30, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Invasive Spices discussion

I don't want to pointlessly push that tangent and further muddle the waters over there, so I'll just bring this here real quick: What I meant with "deliberately misinterpreting their request" (Please provide an example of a personal attack) is that since IS never specified that example as being something they said, I could have just called them a stunad of the highest order and got away with it because hey, that is an example of a personal attack, good job me! An extremely clever comedy joke, if you will - I do these sometimes, but for some reason, they just never seem to land in written form :) Dr. Duh 🩺 (talk) 11:01, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Doctor Duh: Ah, gotcha. Sadly I am not fully awake or I might have understood the joke. With this in mind and given IS' response, I would not be surprised if I misunderstood that response as joking right back. --Super Goku V (talk) 11:13, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

BattyBot

Hi there! BattyBot was coded to remove incorrect author parameters such as |last=Publishing |first=Here when |publisher=Here Publishing exists. I hope the AWB developers fix the {{hatnote group}} issue soon! GoingBatty (talk) 13:10, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, GoingBatty. Sorry if I caused you more trouble by not sending an incorrect error warning. I had decided to just revert BattyBot and give it a second chance to make the edit as it appeared to me that BattyBot made an error just in the lede. Though now I see that it was a different issue entirely thanks you your last sentence. (To clarify, I apologize if I implied that BattyBot should not have removed the author parameters. That part was fine with me, but I was under the apparently mistaken belief that BattyBot was fully automated instead of partly automated. I just wanted to confirm if BattyBot would repeat the error if I reverted before I made a report to you.) --Super Goku V (talk) 08:18, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Super Goku V: I understood that you reverted the bot edit because of the issue with the {{hatnote group}} edit. Most of the time, I run BattyBot fully automated. BattyBot (and all AWB bots) will continue mishandling the new {{hatnote group}} template until the developers fix it. I appreciate you making the report, so I could manually fix the article and remind the developers about the problem. Thanks, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 13:56, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, gotcha. Sorry for the confusion on my part then and thank you for trying to get the actual issue fixed. --Super Goku V (talk) 07:39, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Talk : 2023 Lewiston Shootings

On my talk page, you seem to be suggesting I report a user who has already been blocked for Edit Warring and Personal Attacks. That makes no sense to me. Why would I need to report the user if the issue has already been addressed? Crescent77 (talk) 17:31, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Crescent77: Splitting this discussion in two might make things a bit confusing, but I can try it if you want to. I am suggesting that because of your comments on the talk page of the article. You personally attacked another editor over your thoughts on their editing. Rather than make comments about their editing on the article's talk page, I believe you should instead bring up the matter to an administrator or a noticeboard if you feel their editing is still a problem in some form. Making uncivil comments does not help to resolve the issue. --Super Goku V (talk) 21:13, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If you're going to make accusations, please present evidence. Where on that talk page did I "personally attack" the editor?
Once again, why would I need to "bring up the matter to an administrator", when 3 separate administrators have already placed sanctions, including a temporary block, on the user in question? Crescent77 (talk) 21:22, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The NPOV tag addition discussion. As for the rest, I am saying that if you have an issue with the editor, then don't take it up on the article's talk page, but instead take it up elsewhere. Your comments indicated to me that you do not seem to believe the issue is resolved, which is why I am suggesting it. If you believe the issue is resolved, then things are fine as long as everyone remains civil. To partly quote myself, the talk page has become heated at times, but everyone needs to be more cautious about remaining civil. --Super Goku V (talk) 21:31, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think what you're overlooking here is that the thrice blocked editor added the NPOV tag as a tenditious act. My comments were directly relevant to that tenditous act, they were not in violation of WP:NOPERSONALATTACKS, I stand by them. I'm not asking to have them reinstated, as the issue has since been resolved, I would just ask you to consider that your actions may be inadvertently covering for tenditious actions. I appreciate your focus on keeping things civil, but please don't push civility to the point it benefits the uncivil. Crescent77 (talk) 22:20, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the user added the NPOV tag. Yes, you made comments about it. You claimed that the other user had "again become impatient" and then claimed that they were repeatedly making bad faith edits with the words "latest tendentious tactic." The fact that you are suggesting that there is still an issue with the other editor is a point I have been trying to make. If there is a problem, take it to an admin or a board. If there is not a problem or the problem has been resolved, then don't suggest that there is a problem or still is a problem. Remember, comment on content, not on the contributor. Additionally, it is impossible for me to conceal another user's edits as I don't have any permissions related to it. Special:Contributions allows anyone to see edits and the content made by another user as long as they have not been oversighted or suppressed. You can also use Template:Diff or Special:Diff to link to them. For example, this is technically the 50,000,000th edit made to Wikipedia. Currently, there have been roughly 1,183,538,200 edits as seen with Special:Diff/1183538200. This allows the Wiki the ability to see who has done what and take action if necessary. --Super Goku V (talk) 22:57, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Once again, my problem was resolved with the sanctioning of said editor and the removal of the NPOV tag. Where am I suggesting "that there still is an issue with the other editor"? Crescent77 (talk) 04:56, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]