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A possible issue is that you may not be aware of the type of pseudoscience McDougall advocates. Here is a recent video from John A. McDougall calling [[angioplasty]] a scam [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShV03K-cDGM]. Here is another recent video of John A. McDougall on Chef AJ's channel claiming [[colonoscopy]] is a scam and that people should avoid them [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN0lmWUnXVU]. If you check the comments in these videos, all the top rated comments are from die-hard McDougall fans claiming all doctors are scam artists and that people should run away from hospitals and ignore advice from their doctors and follow McDougall's diet. Any critical comments are removed. You seem to be oblivious to how harmful this type of misinformation can be. Let me ask you, are you one of these people that also believes the medical community is a scam? Hopefully you do not really believe in these conspiracy theories. Contrary to what McDougall might say, doctors are not the enemy out to get you! [[User:Psychologist Guy|Psychologist Guy]] ([[User talk:Psychologist Guy|talk]]) 16:37, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
A possible issue is that you may not be aware of the type of pseudoscience McDougall advocates. Here is a recent video from John A. McDougall calling [[angioplasty]] a scam [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShV03K-cDGM]. Here is another recent video of John A. McDougall on Chef AJ's channel claiming [[colonoscopy]] is a scam and that people should avoid them [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN0lmWUnXVU]. If you check the comments in these videos, all the top rated comments are from die-hard McDougall fans claiming all doctors are scam artists and that people should run away from hospitals and ignore advice from their doctors and follow McDougall's diet. Any critical comments are removed. You seem to be oblivious to how harmful this type of misinformation can be. Let me ask you, are you one of these people that also believes the medical community is a scam? Hopefully you do not really believe in these conspiracy theories. Contrary to what McDougall might say, doctors are not the enemy out to get you! [[User:Psychologist Guy|Psychologist Guy]] ([[User talk:Psychologist Guy|talk]]) 16:37, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

:No, and I'm not saying you're wrong, but you're idealising. His general direction is objectively good: eat plants, less fat. People feel better, get healthier and lose weight.
:Now we can debate McDougall's more controversial advice, but he deserves a fair assessment nevertheless. The issue is even if he's as bad as you think he is, he deserves a strong and impartial (!) sourcing, and not from some biased and outdated "physiologist" who has contempt for all vegan diets. This is evidence that Butler doesn't know, has the wrong arguments and holds no evidence, but is of course on point regarding homeopathy, faith-healing, etc.
:I think the gatekeeping crusade you're conducting is unjust and frankly inhumane, even accounting for McDougall getting it wrong at times.
:Above all, the man has done a net positive contribution, so if you're going to be crucifying him you can do it with evidence and without muddying the water. [[User:Teleoid|Teleoid]] ([[User talk:Teleoid#top|talk]]) 17:44, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

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Information icon Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. This is just a note to let you know that I've moved the draft that you were working on to Draft:Alicia anisopetala, from its old location at User:Teleoid/sandbox/Alicia anisopetala. This has been done because the Draft namespace is the preferred location for Articles for Creation submissions. Please feel free to continue to work on it there. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to ask me on my talk page. Thank you. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 20:25, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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John A. McDougall advocacy edits

Do you care to explain why you are so pro- John A. McDougall? It seems you will not accept any valid criticisms. You talk about balance, but you will not accept a single critical source.

A possible issue is that you may not be aware of the type of pseudoscience McDougall advocates. Here is a recent video from John A. McDougall calling angioplasty a scam [1]. Here is another recent video of John A. McDougall on Chef AJ's channel claiming colonoscopy is a scam and that people should avoid them [2]. If you check the comments in these videos, all the top rated comments are from die-hard McDougall fans claiming all doctors are scam artists and that people should run away from hospitals and ignore advice from their doctors and follow McDougall's diet. Any critical comments are removed. You seem to be oblivious to how harmful this type of misinformation can be. Let me ask you, are you one of these people that also believes the medical community is a scam? Hopefully you do not really believe in these conspiracy theories. Contrary to what McDougall might say, doctors are not the enemy out to get you! Psychologist Guy (talk) 16:37, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, and I'm not saying you're wrong, but you're idealising. His general direction is objectively good: eat plants, less fat. People feel better, get healthier and lose weight.
Now we can debate McDougall's more controversial advice, but he deserves a fair assessment nevertheless. The issue is even if he's as bad as you think he is, he deserves a strong and impartial (!) sourcing, and not from some biased and outdated "physiologist" who has contempt for all vegan diets. This is evidence that Butler doesn't know, has the wrong arguments and holds no evidence, but is of course on point regarding homeopathy, faith-healing, etc.
I think the gatekeeping crusade you're conducting is unjust and frankly inhumane, even accounting for McDougall getting it wrong at times.
Above all, the man has done a net positive contribution, so if you're going to be crucifying him you can do it with evidence and without muddying the water. Teleoid (talk) 17:44, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]