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Appropriate sourcing

While the disclaimer at the top isn't wrong exactly, a strictly biomedical approach to this is not called for. We should be drawing on non-medical reliable sources for this kind of thing, where it's clear that scientific research is lagging well behind extensive personal accounts.

There is an analogy to be drawn with the experiences of other minority groups, and how we go about incorporating them into an encyclopedic work like this. Oolong (talk) 19:20, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Everything in the Management section, and most of the second paragraph of Research are statements subject to WP:MEDRS; I have not tagged each statement in text because some of the text does not need better sourcing, or some is cultural, etc. We're still making general medical statements here based on surveys and other lesser quality sources. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:58, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree that we are making general medical statements here. The article is full of hedgewords in appropriate places, as it should be when relying largely on primary sources, which is in turn necessary when describing underfunded scientific topics. If our discussion of science is to remain current then there must be some freedom to indicate that not all which is being discussed is universally applicable.

I would however advocate for greater separation between the scientific understanding of autistic burnout and how autistic people ourselves discuss autistic burnout. Both have their place, as such topics do not exist within the mythologised sociopersonal vacuum of hard science, but it is still worth clearly delineating the evidential from the experiential. JMcK 84 (talk) 11:21, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all. I took a stab at reorganizing the article to avoid the issue of appearing to make any medical statements. I also removed most of the primary sources. I thought that a few were appropriate (e.g. I think the social media study is useful as a simple report of when "autistic burnout" is known to have appeared in the written record) but I would defer to others' judgement on this. Aeffenberger (talk) 21:24, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::I disagree that we are making general medical statements here.  The article is full of hedgewords in appropriate places, as it should be when relying largely on primary sources, which is in turn necessary when describing underfunded scientific topics.  If our discussion of science is to remain current then there must be some freedom to indicate that not all which is being discussed is universally applicable.
 ::I would however advocate for greater separation between the scientific understanding of autistic burnout and how autistic people ourselves discuss autistic burnout.  Both have their place, as such topics do not exist within the mythologised sociopersonal vacuum of hard science, but it is still worth clearly delineating the evidential from the experiential. [[User:JMcK 84|JMcK 84]] ([[User talk:JMcK 84|talk]]) 11:21, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
+:::Hi all. I took a stab at reorganizing the article to avoid the issue of appearing to make any medical statements. I also removed most of the primary sources. I thought that a few were appropriate (e.g. I think the social media study is useful as a simple report of when "autistic burnout" is known to have appeared in the written record) but I would defer to others' judgement on this. [[User:Aeffenberger|Aeffenberger]] ([[User talk:Aeffenberger|talk]]) 21:24, 16 January 2024 (UTC)