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It is not clear from the article what protests that were 'weeks' earlier are being referred to. As far as I can tell, the (first, and failed) coup was executed on August 15th. The Mosaddegh regime fell on August 19th, just four days later. So when are the Roosevelt-organised demonstrations in this timeline, and when the ones that led to Mosaddegh's resignation? [[User:LastDodo|LastDodo]] ([[User talk:LastDodo|talk]]) 17:50, 22 November 2023 (UTC) |
It is not clear from the article what protests that were 'weeks' earlier are being referred to. As far as I can tell, the (first, and failed) coup was executed on August 15th. The Mosaddegh regime fell on August 19th, just four days later. So when are the Roosevelt-organised demonstrations in this timeline, and when the ones that led to Mosaddegh's resignation? [[User:LastDodo|LastDodo]] ([[User talk:LastDodo|talk]]) 17:50, 22 November 2023 (UTC) |
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IMO too much real estate in this article is dedicated to providing detailed and varied viewpoints on why the US participated in the coup. It doesn't seem to be intentional, but it creates the slight impression of apologism. By comparison, the content on the UK's motivations is less exhaustive, even though the UK was the driving force behind the coup. [[User:Chernorizets|Chernorizets]] ([[User talk:Chernorizets|talk]]) 01:49, 4 February 2024 (UTC) |
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Definition of coup
The article considers the Shah's royal decree (Farman) to dismiss Mosaddegh the first coup. However, it is stated in the article that this act was legal according to Iran's constitution at that time, while Wikipedia's Coup d'état article defines a coup as an illegal act. This is a contradiction and needs to be addressed. 89.219.252.17 (talk) 07:06, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
- I think there is a parallel with the 2014 Ukrainian revolution. It was, as I understand it, legal, but also made possible only by violence. It is a good point though. LastDodo (talk) 16:28, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
Clarification about protests
Under the section 'Execution of Operation Ajax' we find this line 'In 2014, historian Ray Takeyh conclusively showed that the US-led coup attempt was unsuccessful...the demonstrations that led to Mosaddeq's resignation took place some weeks after the Roosevelt-organized ones, and were composed of average citizens, not the thugs-for-hire that the CIA and MI6 had recruited.'
It is not clear from the article what protests that were 'weeks' earlier are being referred to. As far as I can tell, the (first, and failed) coup was executed on August 15th. The Mosaddegh regime fell on August 19th, just four days later. So when are the Roosevelt-organised demonstrations in this timeline, and when the ones that led to Mosaddegh's resignation? LastDodo (talk) 17:50, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
Balance of presented information
IMO too much real estate in this article is dedicated to providing detailed and varied viewpoints on why the US participated in the coup. It doesn't seem to be intentional, but it creates the slight impression of apologism. By comparison, the content on the UK's motivations is less exhaustive, even though the UK was the driving force behind the coup. Chernorizets (talk) 01:49, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
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