Talk:Siege of Khan Yunis

Grammar

Article has multiple overlinks of "israeli forces", mistake of prefix The in capital letter, possibly more — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.138.252.191 (talk) 20:37, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

I have addressed this in my recent edit. Please let me know if I've missed anything. Thanks, SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) 16:06, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Disputed map

The map in this article appears to violate WP:IMAGEOR, because it seems to illustrate/introduce unpublished ideas/arguments. Particularly, while the Commons file cites the Institute for the Study of War, the depiction of the areas of operation of the al-Quds Brigades does not appear to have been sourced from there. SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) 16:05, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Fixed The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) 14:49, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Update

"Twenty-one Israeli soldiers are killed in an explosion and subsequent building collapse in Khan Yunis, Gaza Strip, making it the deadliest day for the Israel Defense Forces since the ground invasion began. (Sky News)" (As seen on Portal:Current Events)

Certain inside sources claim a Palestinian death toll of at least forty to fifty during the day of the attack, (Al Jazeera) (Haaretz) although it is unclear whether these deaths are linked to the same explosion referred to above, according to my understanding.
— Urro^{[user][talk][edits]} 00:04, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Old

https://mobile.mako.co.il/news-military/2024_q1/Article-9b0299bbc864d81026.htm?sCh=31750a2610f26110&pId=173113802 2A00:A041:1CE0:0:E139:30F8:BF3:D3FE (talk) 21:06, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Connected publish: https://twitter.com/avishaigrinzaig/status/1750264426282783020 שמי (2023) (talk) 21:15, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Completely false claims

The Israeli commanders section of the table claims two tank commanders were killed. The sources are extremely dubious, and nontrustworthy Turkish media, which cite the Israeli army. Yet the Israeli army has never released such a statement, in fact a closer inspection reveals that these two tank commanders are not real people. I'd recommend removing this misinforation, unless literally any credible source can be found. Both Shai Uriel Bezem and Orel Cohen, have these sites show up when searched for, and I can't find those particular names in any Israeli military announcements. The ultimate editorxyzyazz (talk) 11:01, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Palestinian victory?

What is going on here? Israeli forces withdrew because they pretty much finished the job there and now preparing for entering Rafah. Israeli plan was never no conquer but destroying Hamas forces. 2A02:14F:1FA:4771:E491:4492:5E3:5D12 (talk) 12:38, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

What was the objectives? To eliminate Hamas? Hamas still there and just yesterday ambushed and killed Israeli soldiers, what kind of objective have been met? 2A02:AA1:1646:2B48:60F1:B3FF:FE55:DF7C (talk) 14:36, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Hamas' battalions in the area have been destroyed and its infrastructure was laid to waste, that some remnants survive doesn't necessarily mean they "won." RM (Be my friend) 14:45, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

At the same time Hamas still exist and is not eliminated so that will not lead to non existent of Hamas, you either fullfil your objective completely or it's not a decisive success either you don't leave a situation directly after a deadly ambush by Hamas and call that "we eliminated Hamas" 2A02:AA1:1646:2B48:60F1:B3FF:FE55:DF7C (talk) 14:50, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

What is the proof that Hamas' battalions have been destroyed though? Genabab (talk) 14:54, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

exactly all I hear is salt from pro Israeli people."Hamas was destroyed in Khan Younis", but they are still there and just yesterday ambushed and killed Israeli soldiers. What is all this excuses coming from? 2A02:AA1:1646:2B48:60F1:B3FF:FE55:DF7C (talk) 15:00, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

In my opinion the battle was one of attrition. By the end of it Hamas fighters are still in Khan Yunis. Rockets even were fired just after the Israeli retreat. Sure Hamas got beat badly but they were still in control of the city and their forces weren't completely destroyed. So I think a "Hamas" or "Palestinian" victory, whatever you wanna call it, fits. Radiourgía Promithéas (talk) 14:49, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

I agree. 2A02:AA1:1646:2B48:60F1:B3FF:FE55:DF7C (talk) 14:58, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Palestinian victory

It's quite pointless and non-objective. It's Wikipedia, not a propaganda site. Neither of the sides 'won'. The Israelies decided to withdraw their forces for numerous reasons and their hostages are still held captive somewhere in the Gaza strip. Hamas hasn't recuperated, didn't re-gain it's sovereignty and the Hamas's Khan Yunis brigade was pretty much eliminated throughout the last 3 months. Please remove this very un-necessery propaganda. UnsettledEditor (talk) 12:51, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Every battle has an objective and Hamas just yesterday was ambushed and several soldiers was killed. If Israel is not on the ground and Hamas still exist they will retake Khan Younis among its population. This will turn out as a pointless ground invasion for IDF. 94.191.153.9 (talk) 14:42, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Well, let me disagree with you. The IDF had never set its aim at overtaking the Gaza Strip to make it a part of Israel. They were aiming to eliminate Hamas' and PIJ's militants, infrastructures, commanders and command posts. As well as try to rescue as much hostages as they can. Thus, claiming that Israel's withdrawal from Gazan ground means the IDF lost is simply invalid and wrong. In addition keep in mind that this withdrawal doesn't mean the IDF won't return to Khan Younis, it may be temporary and therefore I wouldn't jump to conclusions (especially while their hostages are still in Gaza).

Bottom line: The IDF never expressed anything publicly that suggests they won't return to Khan Younis, and the withdrawal doesn't mean they lost as the IDF never intended to conquer Gaza again. UnsettledEditor (talk) 14:57, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Is there a source for Palestinian fighters in Khan Younis not having recuperated? Genabab (talk) 14:45, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Another anti Israeli biased article

"Palestinian victory" - claimed by whom? By what factors? In relation to what? Not surprising considering the amount of bias in the English Wikipedia. And locking for edits, cowardice. 85.130.157.245 (talk) 12:55, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 April 2024

Please remove the phrase 'Palestinian victory' from the outcomes section. It is pointless, full of propaganda and non-objective. There are enough social media platforms to promote Palestinian or Israeli messages on. Thanks in regard. UnsettledEditor (talk) 12:56, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 12:58, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

False claim of palestinian victory

palestinians didnt win anything, israel withdrew because their goals were met, and are moving to smaller scale raids Kwabat5 (talk) 13:10, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Agree with kwabat, this is a political claim and isn't grounded in reality. Not encyclopedic. Asafg8 (talk) 13:12, 7 April 2024 (UTC)