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Did you know nomination
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by RoySmith talk 15:24, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
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Dave Fishwick on James English's Anything Goes podcast
... that David Fishwick became the biggest minibus supplier in Britain after finding he could not afford a chip butty for lunch?Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/fame-fortune/like-big-banks-hate-do-nothing-help-public/- ALT1: ... that David Fishwick founded "Bank on Dave" after big banks abruptly stopped lending his customers money? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/money/2012/jul/06/bank-of-dave-small-business-finance-dave-fishwick
- ALT2: ... that David Fishwick presented the 2018 Channel 4 series How to Get Rich Quick? Source: https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/how-to-get-rich-quick-can-you-hear-it-ka-ching-1.3574894
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Toro de fuego
Created by Launchballer (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 232 past nominations.
Launchballer 12:01, 2 June 2024 (UTC).
- Will be reviewing this. 🌙Eclipse (talk) (contribs) 13:06, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Good to go! 🌙Eclipse (talk) (contribs) 21:49, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- I call false positive as that quote is fully attributed and therefore not a copyright violation.--Launchballer 22:19, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Approving ALT0. 🌙Eclipse (talk) (contribs) 22:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
pulled at request of nominator. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 22:04, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- For context, The Times published a piece yesterday morning that directly contradicted my hook, which meant it wasn't accurate (he could afford a chip butty, just a slightly smaller one than usual). I also noticed that the Telegraph did not mention lunch, probably because it was in fact dinner. I will propose some more hooks later, but for now, I got severely carried away expanding the article, meaning that around only three eighths of this has actually been reviewed. This will definitely require a new reviewer. (Incidentally, that "Fighting Against the Elite" video is actually Creative Commons, so I have uploaded it to this nomination.)--Launchballer 20:04, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that David Fishwick went from a £27.50 a week pebbledashing job to becoming the biggest minibus supplier in Britain?
- ALT4: ... that David Fishwick used to stuff his wallet with paper to appear richer to prospective sellers?
- ALT5: ... that David Fishwick married his wife after she told him his music was rubbish?
- ALT6: ... that David Fishwick decided he no longer wanted to be poor following an incident involving a chip butty?
- ALT7: ... that a Times reviewer of Channel 4's Bank of Dave opined that David Fishwick "could have been one of the best comedy characters of 2012"?
- ... and if "200 characters" wasn't a thing, I'd propose "that David Fishwick's How to Get Rich Quick "encourages people of modest means to pursue equally modest dreams in the very modest hopes, several weeks of hard work later, of doubling their modest investments"?.--Launchballer 10:15, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT8: ... that when a writer contacted David Fishwick to express interest in making a film about his bank, he insisted that it was shot in Burnley?--Launchballer 13:27, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- For context, The Times published a piece yesterday morning that directly contradicted my hook, which meant it wasn't accurate (he could afford a chip butty, just a slightly smaller one than usual). I also noticed that the Telegraph did not mention lunch, probably because it was in fact dinner. I will propose some more hooks later, but for now, I got severely carried away expanding the article, meaning that around only three eighths of this has actually been reviewed. This will definitely require a new reviewer. (Incidentally, that "Fighting Against the Elite" video is actually Creative Commons, so I have uploaded it to this nomination.)--Launchballer 20:04, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
@LunaEclipse: As the original reviewer, please indicate which ALTs above, if any, are approved and if this article is approved. Z1720 (talk) 01:33, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
This article has tripled in size since LunaEclipse's original approval. This should probably get another review. With the benefit of a few weeks, my preference is ALT6 as closest to the original struck hook.--Launchballer 07:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Let's make a new review. I prefer the ALT1 hook
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- If I understood it correctly, the bank's name is Burnley Savings and Loans, with "Bank of Dave" being just a slogan. If so we should call the bank by its actual name. Also, the previous sentence is 4 lines long.
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Cambalachero (talk) 19:27, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
As pointed, ALT1 needs a bit of fixing. Cambalachero (talk) 19:27, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- I've cut that long sentence in half; if you see any others like it, point 'em out, because it is a bad habit of mine and this is at GA, so I will be pulled up on them. ALT1a: ... that David Fishwick founded Burnley Savings and Loans after big banks abruptly stopped lending his customers money?--Launchballer 20:04, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
Article is ready, with the amended hook. Cambalachero (talk) 00:01, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: This is now two months old. Please forgive my antsiness, but you've clearly seen this article and have promoted since, and I'd really rather this didn't time out. What else do I have to do for this to be promoted (preferably to the image slot as we have a Creative Commons video and might as well use it)?--Launchballer 17:10, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- The only articles I've promoted since this nom's approval are Olympic-related. I had not noticed it, and previously had no opinion on its promotion-worthiness; now, it's a little boring—seems like it's relying more on "ooh, there's a video!" rather than an interesting hook. Still, some other active promoter might like it more than me. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:54, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- No worries. I only pinged you as I saw you edited the article on 30 July. Out of interest, were there any other hooks on this page you preferred?--Launchballer 07:09, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- The only articles I've promoted since this nom's approval are Olympic-related. I had not noticed it, and previously had no opinion on its promotion-worthiness; now, it's a little boring—seems like it's relying more on "ooh, there's a video!" rather than an interesting hook. Still, some other active promoter might like it more than me. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:54, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: This is now two months old. Please forgive my antsiness, but you've clearly seen this article and have promoted since, and I'd really rather this didn't time out. What else do I have to do for this to be promoted (preferably to the image slot as we have a Creative Commons video and might as well use it)?--Launchballer 17:10, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
closing this per WP:DYKTIMEOUT RoySmith (talk) 15:23, 4 August 2024 (UTC)