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There are many articles in the scope of the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject New York City Public Transportation|New York City Public Transportation WikiProject]] that are stubs, particularly with respect to operators in and around the Greater New York area. For instance, this would include stations of the [[Hudson-Bergen Light Rail]], [[New York City Subway]], [[Metro-North Railroad]], [[New Jersey Transit rail operations|New Jersey Transit]] smaller bus systems in Greater New York (i.e., [[Norwalk Transit District]]), and private systems (i.e., [[Rockland Coaches]]). A basis from this would be in the {{[[Template:Washington-Metro-stub|Washington Metro-stub]]}}, also associated with a WikiProject. --[[User:AEMoreira042281|AEMoreira042281]] 15:31, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


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Revision as of 15:31, 5 June 2007

Proposals, June 2007

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NEW PROPOSALS

{{Greater-New-York-transportation-stub}}

There are many articles in the scope of the New York City Public Transportation WikiProject that are stubs, particularly with respect to operators in and around the Greater New York area. For instance, this would include stations of the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail, New York City Subway, Metro-North Railroad, New Jersey Transit smaller bus systems in Greater New York (i.e., Norwalk Transit District), and private systems (i.e., Rockland Coaches). A basis from this would be in the {{Washington Metro-stub}}, also associated with a WikiProject. --AEMoreira042281 15:31, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

{{Producer-stub}}

I think there needs to be a producer stub, because right now I've noticed that a lot of producers are just listed under stub. I think it would make things a little more organized, if they had their own stub category. Also, from there you can get more specific, like tv-producer-stub or movie-producer-stub. It's just an idea. Anyone have any thoughts on this? kc12286 01:55, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I looked for it. I guess it's listed under films. Well in that case, maye adding a tv-producer-stub would be helpful. kc12286 04:21, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

{{Ancient-Euro-bio-stub}}

This one may need a little brainstorming from the WP:WSS regulars. During discussion with User: Apcbg about the unproposed discovery Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub, it occurred to me that a stub covering biographies of ancient Europeans not covered by the Roman or Greek stub types would probably be very useful and would almost certainly reach 60 stubs, with Thracians, Spartans, Celts, Teutons and the like. IIRC we recently had a similar call for an Etruscan-bio-stub, which this would also cover. It does face a couple of problems, however: defining "Ancient" and defining "Europe". Personally, I'd define Ancient as being the same as BC and would be lenient on Europe to include Phoenicians, Trojans and Carthaginians - none of whom could accuately be described as European. And if that was to be the coverage, it might need a better name ("Classical-bio-stub"?). Any thoughts? Grutness...wha? 05:27, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

File:Zlatna maska teres-2.jpgThat would be a satisfactory solution I believe. Just one suggestion: Could we please illustrate the new Ancient-Euro-bio-stub with the picture used in Ancient-Thrace-bio-stub? It's the golden mask of a Thracian king, and arguably the Thracians upheld the reputedly earliest cultural tradition in Europe (including the abovementioned 'peri-European' peoples too); as you possibly know the world's oldest gold (dated 46th century BC) was found near Varna. Apcbg 12:00, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

{{music-event-stub}}

To cover concerts, tours, festivals, etc, of which there are quite a few in music stubs sitting there with nowhere to go. Not sure what the category would be named though. Crystallina 01:12, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:United Kingdom charity stubs

UK orgs are oversized; this looks like a plausible place to start. Alai 23:08, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fungal plant disease stubs, and such like

Category:Plant disease stubs is now huge: over 1300. The only trouble with a "fungal" subtype is that it look like it would be huge, too: hundreds of articles were double-stubbed with fungus-stub at the time of the last db dump a week ago, and there's been a lot more created since. Broadly speaking I'd imagine we'd want to split further by either taxonomy of the infective agent, or else by taxonomy of effected species. Alai 22:20, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what the solution is - perhaps I should stop creating all these stubs, and in fact, I'm pretty well done - I wanted to create stubs for all of the pathogens listed in the various disease lists. However, the issue is not really just restricted to 'stubs'. The 'Plant pathogens and diseases' category is now also very large. How could it be better organized? I noticed that the fungi category includes subcategories such as Ascomycetes and Basidiomycetes. Most of the plant disease stubs are for Ascomycetes, however, very few have so far been added to this category. If they were, the category would also be large. There also some subcategories for specific genera. I don't know if we want to start creating genera specific stubs (e.g Fusarium pathogen stub, ...) or crop specific stubs (Canola disease stub ..), although the taxonomic approach seems to be one that has been used for the organization of plant species - although I'm not sure if this is also reflected in the plant stubs.Somanypeople 01:02, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's really out of our brief. Perhaps the best solution would be for you to find whatever WikiProject is most involved with this subject and work out how to subdivide the main parent category - Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants, or Wikipedia:WikiProject Biology perhaps, or maybe Wikipedia:WikiProject Fungi or even [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Microbiology. That would make our job easier, too, since we can then divide the stub cats along whatever line the permcats are divided. If the stub category isn't going to grow much larger any time soon (and you did say you've more or less finished what you're doing), then we can hold off any split for a short while, at least. Grutness...wha? 01:20, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well as a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Fungi I have been adding fungal plant diseases to their coverage but its quiet a small wikiproject. The majority of plant diseases are fungal, so the creation of a fungal plant disease catergory would, your correct, be huge. It may be best to divivde them by their hosts then. I suggest cereal disease stub, tree disease stub ect and I also suggest a general plant virus stub due to the number of viral family stub articles where all the members of that family are plant pathogens. Viruses also have a very large host range so it'd be harder to classify them that way. Million_Moments 11:02, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
On permcats (though as G. says, this isn't strictly on-topic for this page, but what the hey) I'd image one would want categorisation by both organism and by host. Say, cat:<taxon> or cat:<taxon> plant diseases, plus something along the lines of cat:diseases of <taxon> (or cat:<taxon> diseases). Whether one wants "intersection categories" between the two is a judgement call. Once those are in place, then it becomes just a matter of which of the two (or which combination) is the most useful for editors expanding them. BTW, notice also this proposal to split up the fungi per se, which presumably will overlap a great deal with this. Alai 14:04, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:California school stubs subtypes

Over 800; I'm guessing we want to split by counties and/or region, say on the lines of the geo-stubs (so likely starting with SoCal). Alai 22:01, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Swedish sports venue stubs

Parent is at exactly 800, this seems the best candidate at 54 (by permcatting, there may be a couple more someplace). Alai 21:58, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Compilation album stubs subtypes

Over 800; precedent would be to split by decade of release. Alai 21:56, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Defensive back stubs subtypes

Just over 800; we could split this up into more specific positions (cornerbacks and safeties), but I'm guessing we more likely want to split by decade of birth, per the recent offensive line re-split. Alai 21:45, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Split of {{mil-stub}}

Mil-stub is 5 pages and needs a split. {{Asia-mil-stub}}, {{Africa-mil-stub}}, {{SouthAm-mil-stub}} would be a good beginning and could also be the parent cat's to the existing x-mil-stub. Also, a {{country-mil-stub}} would be useful.--Thomas.macmillan 21:29, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support the continent splits (plus, if deemed useful, simular for Oceania, CentralAm, Caribbean and MEast). Not so sure about the country-mil-stub, though - what would that be used for? If simply "Military of Foo"-type articles, wouldn't they be better simply given their respective continental-mil-stub? Grutness...wha? 23:32, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Anime and manga -- do-over

We've been around this one before, but hopefully we might get a bit more traction this time. Parent is of course enormous. I hope I'm on solid ground with at least the first one, as it was already suggested at the corresponding WPJ (at which I'm about to drop a note about this). I wonder if a still broader Category:Anime and manga biography stubs would also be handy.

  1. Category:Manga artist stubs 186
  2. Category:Anime OVA stubs 139
  3. Category:Anime film stubs 97
  4. Category:Science fiction anime stubs 144
  5. Category:Shōjo stubs 108
  6. Category:Mecha anime stubs 76
  7. Category:Fantasy anime stubs 71

As to the others, I'm easy either way on whether it makes more sense to split by medium, or by genre.

{{pharmacology-stub}} subtypes

Bigger than ever, but categorisation seems to have improved, so the following all look to be plausible now:

Support. Monoclonal antibodies in particular would benefit from subsorting. I presume {{antimicrobial-stub}} would apply to antifungals, antiparasitics etc. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 21:09, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Judaism subtypes

Now at 900ish, this seems to be due to: a) massive double-stubbing with synagogue-stub (which unless I'm missing something, would seem to be profoundly redundant), and the creation of large numbers of articles like 5881 (Hebrew year) (that's 2120-2121 in Gregorian money). If the latter aren't going to be deleted or merged, as would otherwise seem sensible, perhaps we should consider a Category:Hebrew year stubs. (The former I take it we should just de-double-stub). Alai 22:16, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

fungus subtypes

Oversized parent. Alai 21:02, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Austria-geo sub-types

Parent's now onto its sixth page. A split by state seems straightforward, with five immediately viable:

I suggest templates only for Upper Austria (42), Vorarlberg (39), Salzburg state (37) and Vienna (11), though I wouldn't be surprised if three of those were viable with further sorting of the uncatted rump. Alai 21:00, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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