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Gosling

Nice work in Ryan Gosling. Haven't heard from you in a bit. Everything okay? I figured, after the bit of the Rant-y above, you could use a bit of a giggle. Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 23:51, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Ahahaha! María (habla conmigo) 23:56, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

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WPBooks

Please read the response I was given [1].Zigzig20s 15:18, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale

Feel free--I put it together and rewrote it from other editors' rationales myself. There's also a useful template and several other examples of fair-use rationales in the article Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline.--ShelfSkewed Talk 14:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Grimes Sisters

The article is a summery of the two articles. Since it is not accepted that you simply copy information, I needed to rewrite the information of the two articles completly. This also made the article more structured than the information provided in the two articles. The information of the articles can be found in other sources too, but since all information provided in the wikipedia entry is reflected in those two articles, I decided to list those two very specific articles. The Grimes Sisters is a case that isn't THAT represented, so it's hard to find all the information at crimelibrary or elsewere most popular crime cases are listed. Still the Griems Sisters are a case known and there are information in the internet about this case. The two articles are only the two best sources.

Feel free to read the articles. You will notice that all information of the entry is also represented in the two articles. It's true that I have not made footmarks, but that doesn't mean it isn't sourced. There ARE the two sources, you can read them and check back. I am working for a long time in Wikipedia and know the rules well. Please, read the articles, check the facts back, and if you find ANY fact that isn't listed in one of the two articles you can state that this particular section (not the whole article) is not sourced. I have removed the "unsorced" remark again since it simply does NOT withstand your allegations. I will open a discussion on the articles discussion page about this. You can write down your concerns there and we can discuss it there. But please do not simply undo the change again! Do not say an article is unsorced just because you haven't read the sources! That is not academic. Hope to see you on the discussion page of the article (where everyone who is interested in the article can see your concerns and discussed). ColdCase 22:59, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

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The Diary of Anne Frank

Thank you for alerting me to your edit to the above article, and for explaining your thinking behind it, which is certainly reasonable. I've endeavoured to be concise with all the articles I've started here and to try and prune back edits which repeat what's already there or embellish without informing. It was very kind of you to compliment my work, also. Thank you, Yallery Brown 17:07, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Pity is not enough

Personally I think this article is enough to not consider it a stub. We (meaning you, really) covered the inspiration and the like and included a brief overview of the plot, etc. I would think that it's enough for a regular article, considering the sparse amount of credible articles. I guess we have some time to discuss it. Imasleepviking 18:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:EmpireoftheSunbook.jpg)

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Allen R. Schindler, Jr. edits

Hi, I don't agree with your edits but at least we can agree that it was a "brutal" murder? "The attack was so brutal Hajdys-Holman could identify her son only by the tattoo on his arm." Benjiboi 20:01, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

(sorry for delay wikipedia server error messages)

agree that throwing heavy words around should be avoided that's why I let the reference do it but you moved it. Benjiboi 20:26, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, do you have a reliable source for "The attack was so brutal Hajdys-Holman could identify her son only by the tattoo on his arm"? That would make a great addition to the article -- but not in the lead. ;) María (críticame) 20:08, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I do and I'm in the process of researching it and the campaign the family had undertaken for justice.[2] Benjiboi 20:26, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I've fleshed out the article a bit and would love a second opinion. There is also a few sentences

"The captain denied Schindler's request and kept the man's sexual orientation and his death a secret for months. It was not reported until a special team composed of a psychologist, two lawyers, a counselor, and a corpsman from Yokosuka incidentally met at a bar in Sasebo."

that I'm not able to confirm and I'm not sure exactly what they lead to or where it should fit. I don't know where they came from but I think should be cited for fact checking at least. Benjiboi 23:15, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for looking at the article again and the lesson on ref naming as I wasn't sure how to do it and didn't want to mess it up! Benjiboi 17:46, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Musical Theatre

Just wanted to say a quick Welcome to the project! --omtay38 14:28, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Jon Favreau

Hello,

Can you please add back the 4th section under the actor Jon Favreau in regards to the confusion with the Obama speech writer. The section was previously in wikipedia but I noticed it was recently missing. I believe the link in the passage takes care of the "uncited" claim: "No, the man charged with writing speeches for Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) is not the actor who played the lovelorn Mike Peters in the movie "Swingers." Thank you.

Robert

Rent (musical)

Thanks for your contributions to the page - it looks great now! Thanks also for cleaning up my edits. I'll be sure to be more careful next time I edit a page. Keep up the good work!

Popular culture

I just found this today: Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc, a Featured Article. Now, I don't mind examples of which Joan of Arc is a prominent influence, such as the artwork, but the music section and the following sections mostly do not demonstrate any kind of notability of Joan of Arc's presence, with the exception of items like Jeanne d'Arc (video game). Since it's a FA, I'm not sure how to best approach this one. (I checked to make sure that the sections weren't added after the FA passing - this is the revision at the time of the FA passing.) What do you think should be done? Maybe we can grab a whole batch of the popular-culture articles and see if we can't cut down on the more trivial bits. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 14:08, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I've left a comment on the admin's talk page. We'll see what is said. Thanks for the advice. Maybe we should start advocating a Wikitrivia.org. :) —Erik (talk • contrib) - 14:47, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I cut back on a lot of minor references (see here), but there may be more to be removed, such as the figure as a leader in a strategy computer game. Can you take a look and see if any further clean-up is needed? I also have a discussion on the article's talk page explaining what I did. No one has said anything about it so far. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 11:16, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Logan Marshall-Green

Sorry for the harsh, Maria. I have noticed that pages with 'references' tags take longer to cite than those with cn tags, as the specific info needing citation is pinpointed by the use of the tag. Also, becaus ethe cn tags are uglier, it inspires industrious editors to do the work to cite the noted statements. The harsh wasn't directed at you at all, but at the situation. I still think you are a fun gal. :) - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 01:41, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough, I won't be such a nit-picker. I will also do some of the grunt work, too. I am still not so convinced about Imdb, but guess I have to realize that some of these articles for celebs have no other fan site or launching point for more interest. Lesson recieved, Maria. :) - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 12:34, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Rossetti gallery

Hi there. I noticed you moved the images in the Dante Gabriel Rossetti article into a gallery. I was wondering if you'd mind if I moved them back as I'm worried that having a gallery will just encourage other users to add more and more paintings to the article - which will end up as a duplication of the collection that exists at the Commons. Even better I might make sure that the paintings included in the article are those discussed in the text! Best wishes. Madmedea 10:28, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for being open to my suggestion. My general standpoint is that galleries are not the best thing for artist's articles as they aren't encyclopedic in themselves - they don't add a great deal of value information-wise to the article. Although not all Wikipedians agree with me (see Thomas Cole) I thought I'd check first! I do a lot of editing on Commons as well so I always feel its a good idea to have a few illustrative works in a WP article and then point the reader to the Commons page for more images. Madmedea 12:17, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Some recognition

You've done such a good job keeping up with The Lovely Bones that I've added you to the {{maintained}} tag on the talk page ... hope you don't mind? Daniel Case 03:48, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Hans Christian Anderson

You removed a sentence from the intro of this article on the grounds that it was an "uncited POV remark".

It was a statement, not a remark. And it was not POV. A POV remark would be something like "H.C. Anderson was the greatest story writer to have lived".

Here are three categories:

1. POV
2. Original research
3. Unsourced fact

They are not the same thing. Editors who remove material on these grounds should be quite sure they know the difference.

In this case, the statement falls into the category of "unsourced fact", which could be supported by quoting a written source. Deleting it as "POV remark" is inappropriate. It needed a banner. --Amandajm 09:04, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

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H.C. Anderson

Thanks for getting back to me! I'm glad that you like the revised version better.. I taken it fairly directly from Bredsdorf. He allso makes the interesting point that different stories have bbeen published in different languages, and that what we get in English are mainly the early stories and don't indicate the full diversity.

--Amandajm 11:31, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Animal House

Excellent work! So many people still need to realize that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. SchuminWeb (Talk) 00:31, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

11 easy steps..

An explanation will be provided at the main wikiproject talk page. I apologize for not doing so last night, it was late and I got off for the night before I had a chance to write an explanation. Psychless 13:44, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Charley Pride article graded

Hi! I appreciate your grading the Charley Pride article, which I have had a large hand in writing and editing. However, why give it a grade when it's still got a pretty long way to go? I'm still fairly new to Wikipedia, and I still don't understand a lot of things. Anyway, I'll be working on this article for a while, yet. It's a pet project for me, as I'm a big country music fan from the "Charley Pride Era" and all country eras that came before. (Please see Slater79 page, where I describe my love/hate "relationship" with country music). I'm just curious as to why you gave a letter grade while the article is still largely a work in progress. Hope to hear from ya! Thanks much. Sincerely, Slater79 12:26, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Tag dispute

Hi. Is there really no middle ground here? Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk/cont) 15:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure to which point you're referring Well, the entire issue really. Is there no possible compromise between my position that the proliferation of tagging requires a new way of doing things and yours in favor of the status quo? Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk/cont) 16:34, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I greatly disagree with your attempts at a one man mission, and if you can cease relocating templates and were to take your concerns to an appropriate outlet In fact, at the suggestion of Viriditas (sp?) I have stopped relocating templates, and had only done one before that once the discussion began. As for venue -- what would you think was an appropriate place? Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk/cont) 18:04, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

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As you wish

The Princess Bride, Carptrash 16:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I haven't been able to get English Wikipedia for three days

Hi. I'm Slater79 , the guy who was discussing the Charley Pride article with you. I am writing this from someone else's computer. I was not able to download the Wikipedia English website for the past three days. Yet, I got it on this computer right away. In the three days in which I wasn't able to get English Wikipedia, I was able to download everything else on the internet with no trouble at all.

About a week ago, I received a message from some wikipedia guy. This happened when I started to edit a page, and I forgot to log in. The message said that I was guilty of being a "sock puppet", and therefore could not edit without signing in, and that the prohibition of this would end on some date in December (I forgot the date; it's not important). Believe me, I'm not trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes. I didn't know, at the time that I temporarily changed my user name to "DaveMarshall70". I just liked the user name better, that's all. I was new to Wikipedia at the time, and I didn't know anything about sock puppets, or any such thing, or even what the meaning of what a sock pocket was.

Then, I had a problem logging in as "DaveMarshall70"; I think I forgot whether I had used capital letters, or what have you, or maybe i forgot the password. I don't remember. But then I changed it to some other user name, one that I can't recall at this time. Then I had trouble logging in with THAT user name, and I went back to Slater79, which was my original user name when I first joined Wikipedia in December. I am going to stay with this name. I have no intentions of causing any problems or doing "sock puppetry" or any such thing. I just enjoy writing. I enjoy editing. I enjoy reading other people's articles and learning. I had absolutely no intention of pulling the wool over anyone's eyes or fooling around in any way.

The reason that I'm writing all this is because I have this terrible feeling that English Wikipedia is not allowing my IP number to access them. This should not be the case. I would hope that it wouldn't, because I am not a malicious person.

Could this POSSIBLY be the reason as to why I couldn't get Wikipedia English version for an entire three days at my own personal computer at home???? Or was the Wikipedia English version having some kind of technical difficulties. I don't know if when I get home, within an hour, that I'll STILL be having trouble downloading the Wikipedia English version.

Please reply! Thank you.

Sincerely, Slater79 01:07, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

At home now; no problem accessing Wikipedia English version!??!

Well, that answers my question. Wikipedia's English version was obviously having problems for a few days. Maybe they were doing some maintainence or repairs. Who knows? Anyway, when I came home and clicked on Wikipedia, the English version came on IMMEDIATELY. Well, as they say, "Much ado about nothing." They also say "Don't sweat the small stuff." Both cliche's fit in this instance. Sincerely, Slater79 02:19, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Your Editor review

Recommended further reading... The Essence of Wikipedia: A Crash Course in Wikipedianism Tips and tricks library Wikipedia's tools page My tools page Bots Coaching advice archive Successful adminship candidacies Unsuccessful adminship candidacies Help:Contents, and all sub-levels Wikipedia:Contents, and all sub-levels Wikipedia:Department directory, and all sub-levels Wikipedia:Administrators Wikipedia:Administrators' reading list Wikipedia:Administrators' how-to guide Wikipedia:Guide to requests for adminship

Hi, Yllosubmarine. I've just finished my response on your Editor Review. Sorry for the long wait, you've been very patient. If your thinking of going further, you should check out:

• Wikipedia:Admin coaching and
• The Virtual classroom¹

Which are both excellent resources. Keep up the good work, Dfrg.msc 03:09, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

¹The box is taken directly off the The Virtual classroom page.

Watchmen

Just a heads-up -- this previous plot summary is actually the official synopsis of the film. Alientraveller rewrote it to present an original form. So the anonymous editor's change was a copyright violation. Just thought that you'd like to know. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 18:30, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

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An essay I've written

Hello. Since we often express similar arguments in deletion debates, I thought you might want to read an essay I've written, found at User:Eyrian/IPC. I'd be interested to hear any feedback on its talk page. --Eyrian 15:16, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

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Wikilink full dates

Any where that the full date is included (January 1, 2007), it must all be wikilinked. Even if you have (March 28, 2007) later in the article, it should all be linked as well. If in the same paragraph/section the year is mentioned several times, consider removing all but one occurrence and then the month and day do not have to be wikilinked. Let me know if that doesn't make sense. --Nehrams2020 00:53, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Knut

Sure, sounds good, we should work together to get this article to GA status. As a way of communicating efficiently, I usually create a to do box with suggestions on what to do to improve the article; in this case, perhaps you should clarify what you believe to be the better course so I can help. Judgesurreal777 00:26, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

I have passed the article as a GA, congratulations on your first one (even though you didn't nominate it, you still improved it to bring it up to GA status). I hope to see you continue to work on more GAs of topics that interest you, as you will be helping to improve the quality of aritcles on Wikipedia for the masses to read, learn from, and enjoy. Keep up the good work and let me know if you want to look over any articles before you take them to GAC or if you ever have any questions. --Nehrams2020 05:53, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Talk: Christian Bale

Refute what I said, then. Don't just delete a comment like a coward because you don't personally agree with it, prove that I'm wrong. Optimus Sledge 16:13, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Please don't clutter up my talk page with your insults. Optimus Sledge 17:18, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Spoiler Tags

No, I didn't know that, I've been away from Wikipedia for a while. I'll be sure to act accordingly. Thanks for letting me know! Ben Tibbetts 17:16, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Funny that the last hed on your talk page is the most relevant.

I saw that you reverted the unexplained removal of the explanation of the title from The Lovely Bones; I went and warned the user (anon with just that edit). I suspect that was actually a good-faith edit. If so, it's probably the law of unintended consequences kicking in for the removal of all spoiler tags ... we're going to see a lot of anons and new users thinking they're being helpful by removing all spoilers if they're aren't any tags setting them apart as such. Daniel Case 17:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

B.R.

I actually explained the revert on the talk page before doing it. - Caribbean~H.Q. 22:32, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Didn't noticed it, sorry :) - Caribbean~H.Q. 22:39, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Reese W.

Hi Maria, thanks for letting me know. I was trying to "unclog" the page and get rid of useless information or arguments that had already been settled long ago. I shall clarify my next edit in the edit summary. Thanks again.--Mimi C. 14:32, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

UNF

Good catch at University of North Florida. The writing was much more informative and clearer the way you have it.--Cúchullain ^t/c 06:14, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Ellis Paul link at River Phoenix

Understood. Having the info within the body of the article makes more sense. Thanks for the feedback - much appreciated. Kmzundel 14:26, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Dorcas Drake

Thank you for adding to the article! I knew Dorcas was a female name, but I figured the New York Times would know best...so surprising they'd get someone's gender wrong! Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 07:34, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

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Wikimania in Atlanta

Hey, Maria. I'm letting you know about our bid to get next year's Wikimania held in Atlanta. I'm going to leave the general template on your page, which may or may not apply to you (I don't know if you've edited Georgia-related articles), but I figured you may want to know about the bid anyway. Plus, we need all the help we can get in the next year or so, so I'd sign the Southeast team page if you can help in any capacity, online or in person. It's all appreciated. :) Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 23:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi! I noticed your involvement on U.S. South-related articles, categories and WikiProjects, and I wanted to let you know about a bid we're formulating to get next year's Wikimania held in Atlanta! If you would like to help, be sure to sign your name to the "In Atlanta" section of the Southeast team portion of the bid if you're in town, or to the "Outside Atlanta" section if you still want to help but don't live in the city or the suburbs. If you would like to contribute more, please write on my talk page, the talk page of the bid, or join us at the #wikimania-atlanta IRC chat on freenode.org. Have a great day!

P.S. While this is a template for maximum efficiency, I would appreciate a note on my talk page so I know you got the message, and what you think. This is time-sensitive, so your urgent cooperation is appreciated. :)

DYK

On 5 September, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hughes Brothers, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Cheers, Daniel 09:20, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

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Rushdie

Does the Booker prize specify that the author is known by the country they are born in rather than country of residence or their nationality? Rushdie is a British citizen (and a knight at that), and his own page page specifies his nationality as British. Cheers, Miremare 17:53, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I believe his nationality is what should be listed, as that seems the purpose of the column, rather than the location of birth. His article specifies "United Kingdom" as his nationality (which it certainly is, as the fact he has a knighthood confirms), and I don't think we should have conflicting nationalities on these pages. If anything, I would suggest listing Indian after British if you feel it is necessary. Cheers, Miremare 19:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand what you mean, are you disputing his nationality? And it's not up to us to decide which nation is more relevant to his work, that's original research. Miremare 19:29, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure non-Brits are only entitled to an honorary knighthood, such as that awarded to Rudolph Giuliani. Anyway, you say that to exclude India as his country of origin would be incorrect, but you don't think excluding his British nationality is incorrect? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that the column in question supposed to contain the nationality of the winner? In which case he is British, as confirmed in his article, and it is misleading to describe him on this list as Indian. Miremare 19:56, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

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Binoche

Wikipedia is the only place that does filmographies from oldest to newest. It looks like garbage, but I could care less about it. Things like that are why Wikipedia will never be a reliable source for anything.Smartissexy 22:07, 20 September 2007 (UTC) Also, what you are referencing is bibliographies, and a filmography isn't a bibliography.Smartissexy 22:10, 20 September 2007 (UTC)