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== Glitch Mob == |
== Glitch Mob == |
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I'm not an experienced Wikipedia editor so don't think I'd be up to the job but I couldn't help but notice there's no mention of the Glitch Mob, the glitch-hop collective, or indeed an article on them. Would anyone be interested in writing one? |
I'm not an experienced Wikipedia editor so don't think I'd be up to the job but I couldn't help but notice there's no mention of the Glitch Mob, the glitch-hop collective, or indeed an article on them. Would anyone be interested in writing one? |
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== Original Research == |
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I believe the following excerpt that was previously located on the article page to be original research: |
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The Glitch and Shoegaze Overlap |
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Some artists have mixed the occasionally harsh noise aspects of glitch with what is often referred to as [[shoegazer]] music. Artists on labels such as [[Morr Music]] fall into this category and maintain a focus on [[intelligent dance music|IDM]] beats and [[pop rock]] melodies and song structures. The two-disc [[Morr Music]] [[compilation album|compilation]] [[Blue skied an' clear (album)|''Blue Skied an' Clear'']] is a perfect introduction to this stylistic overlap; the [[shoegazer]] band [[Slowdive]] has its songs reworked by Morr artists on the first disc. |
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The overlap between glitch and [[shoegazer]] music also includes some artists that have moved away from the song structures and defined beats mentioned above, favouring more ambient forms. The general [[shoegazer]] style of [[pop rock]] melodies buried under layers of [[reverberation]] and [[distortion]] is combined with the precise programming capabilities of [[digital signal processing]]. [[Televise]] (ex slowdive member [[Simon Scott]]), [[Fennesz]] and [[Tim Hecker]] are three notable artists that have received critical praise for their compositions done in this style. The looped constructions of [[lovesliescrushing]], from about 1992, demonstrated a pre-glitch sound. Later, in 2000, the band ventured into the computer realm by translating their signature four track guitar damage into an iMac to produce glissceule and voirshn, dubbed glitch bliss. The duo [[Belong (band)|Belong]] has also released music of this nature. In addition to comparing them to other [[Ambient music|ambient]] or electronic musicians, reviewers and fans also tend to mention the similarities to [[My Bloody Valentine]] (arguably the most highly regarded band of the early 1990s [[shoegazer]] movement). The primary point of similarity is the emphasis placed on the texture of the music; it appears to play as important a role as the melodies themselves. Also, see [[Labradford]], The Night Owl Cafe Killers, or [[Little Glitches]] for similarly ambient/glitch sounds. Japanese artist [[World's End Girlfriend]] often combines glitch beats with elements of [[Post-Rock]] music. |
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Additional Artists
Does anyone think that Autechre and Squarepusher belong to this category? -asmadeus 21:43, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Yes, and maybe no. Autechre, I see has been added. Squarepusher I would be very hesitant to add. Aphex Twin would be an easy addition, though he is not as 'glitchy' as Autechre. I will add him now. --Nick 05:16, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
squarepusher no?
of course he should!!!!!
also Wrong design
Autechre yes, Squarepusher and Venetian Snares are closer to Breakcore, I really feel the need to remove them. Glitch simulates the sound of skipping CDs, breakcore is just very intense breakbeat music.
As well, Coil is on here, as a huge Coil fan I find this questionable in the extreme. Furthermore, they are under 'Notable Artists' ?! Even's Coils' 'Worship the Glitch' has almost no glitch in it. For the most part, their music is ambient and spoken word.
- In my opinion, none of them are glitch at all! Glitch is stuff like Nobukazu Takemura's Scope or especially Oval - stuff which sounds like malfunctioning equipment, what with skipping samples, wobbly ambient-like sounds, etc. The aim of glitch music was initially a somewhat deconstructive effort involving the radical "remixing" of various sources into something utterly irrecognisable which, precisely, sounds like a skipping CD. Also, traditional glitch has the tendance to avoid drum machines and synthesizers, working only with samples, and with an enormous focus on the way in which digital audio works, and the way that digital audio processing devices are, and their byproducts, faults, eventualities, etc (i.e. glitches.) After that, some people imitated the technique without the theorical back-up, and even made variations which overlap with techno, etc. However, Autechre and Aphex Twin come from a techno background which has nothing to do with this (and actually predates Oval by some years - Systemisch has been confirmed to be made mostly out of samples from AFX's SAW II! Listen to the track "Compact Disc" - it's quite recognisably Aphex Twin's "Radiator"), and Squarepusher comes from a jazz and jungle background, so I don't think any of them are glitch at all! That's why I had deleted them... I'm sorry about not asking!
About Venetian Snares, some of their work definitely resembles a cd skipping ("Unborn Baby" anyone?), but probably not enough to warrant a mention here. Probably; I've not heard all his work. Ours18 15:33, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Hey, no-one bite my head off cos I'm only really discovering this stuff now but...Figurine? Yes? No? I'm just interested to see if it counts as Glitch, because Dntel's on here and...yeah. Thoughts? NZHC 04:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Venetian Snares and Squarepusher are both definitely glitch among other things. Squarepusher is not breakcore by any means, though Snares is. T-1 20:49, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
re-add royalty-free or fair-use sample please
Can someone please re-add a link or upload of appropriately licensed example music depicting this genre? The current link appears to be dead. here may be a place to look for open-source music examples. Thanks! dr.ef.tymac 01:48, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Sources
I'd like to see some sources that point out how this "genre" was defined and by who. "Genre" definitions don't just pop out of thin air (though much of the underground press would seem to think so). Cheers! --NightMonkey 19:34, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
- Isn't this one fairly obvious? It was bound to happen at some point, just like distressed type in the graphic design field. People get tired of the clean sights and sounds, so they break the boundary. What else would you call it but "glitch"? What else would "glitch" sound like? Chadparker (talk) 22:50, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- First, are you saying it was magic or genetic?
- Secondly, if glitch is a metaphor then "glitch" could sound as many different ways as you can think. If glitch is literal than "glitch" could sound as many different ways as there are of having malfunctions in as many things you can have malfunctions in. Hyacinth (talk) 00:53, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Glitch Mob
I'm not an experienced Wikipedia editor so don't think I'd be up to the job but I couldn't help but notice there's no mention of the Glitch Mob, the glitch-hop collective, or indeed an article on them. Would anyone be interested in writing one?
Original Research
I believe the following excerpt that was previously located on the article page to be original research:
The Glitch and Shoegaze Overlap
Some artists have mixed the occasionally harsh noise aspects of glitch with what is often referred to as shoegazer music. Artists on labels such as Morr Music fall into this category and maintain a focus on IDM beats and pop rock melodies and song structures. The two-disc Morr Music compilation Blue Skied an' Clear is a perfect introduction to this stylistic overlap; the shoegazer band Slowdive has its songs reworked by Morr artists on the first disc.
The overlap between glitch and shoegazer music also includes some artists that have moved away from the song structures and defined beats mentioned above, favouring more ambient forms. The general shoegazer style of pop rock melodies buried under layers of reverberation and distortion is combined with the precise programming capabilities of digital signal processing. Televise (ex slowdive member Simon Scott), Fennesz and Tim Hecker are three notable artists that have received critical praise for their compositions done in this style. The looped constructions of lovesliescrushing, from about 1992, demonstrated a pre-glitch sound. Later, in 2000, the band ventured into the computer realm by translating their signature four track guitar damage into an iMac to produce glissceule and voirshn, dubbed glitch bliss. The duo Belong has also released music of this nature. In addition to comparing them to other ambient or electronic musicians, reviewers and fans also tend to mention the similarities to My Bloody Valentine (arguably the most highly regarded band of the early 1990s shoegazer movement). The primary point of similarity is the emphasis placed on the texture of the music; it appears to play as important a role as the melodies themselves. Also, see Labradford, The Night Owl Cafe Killers, or Little Glitches for similarly ambient/glitch sounds. Japanese artist World's End Girlfriend often combines glitch beats with elements of Post-Rock music.