Talk:Family Guy

Criticism section

It mentions that The Simpsons has referenced Family Guy unflatteringly twice, suggesting that the people behind The Simpsons are criticising Family Guy. However, Seth MacFarlane has always maintained that there is good feeling between the two sides (unlike with South Park). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.14.194.166 (talk) 15:46, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Unbalanced

Normally changes happen very fast on wikipedia. I am curious, if this page is so unbalanced with criticism why has it not yet shown how the show clearly violated many ethics and flat out lied by calling Senator McCain a Nazi? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbfolsom122 (talk • contribs) 04:36, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

• You may want to look at Road to Germany. And: They did NOT call McCain a Nazi; they simply implied that Nazi's would support him. And, even if they did, they are well within their 1st Amendment rights to express that opinion. But regardless of all that, if you want to add something about this, please find a reliable source to cite it. Dp76764 (talk) 14:57, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I think the first thing about this topic is right. The show often takes a Democrat viewpoint on various topics. Some messages on the show are: republicans want to control everybody, undecided voters are stupid, etc. There has to be some criticism on this.--poketape 02:17, 28 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Poketape (talk • contribs)

• Criticism is fine, as long as it's well sourced and balanced by praise. And have you looked that the Criticism of Family Guy article? DP76764 (Talk) 05:42, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

The tone of the show is not something that sits well with conservative, religious people, and part of the reason is that some of the themes that they showcase those on the right find shocking. This is all meant to be satire, and draw attention to these issue, relating to gay rights for example.

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Effin Cry

to the extent that UK broadcaster Channel 4 would edit the line so Stewie would only be heard saying "cry", and some versions of subtitles stating "F-in' cry!"

Family Guy has never been shown on channel 4 in the UK - it is only shown on BBCthree and FX.

77.100.255.190 (talk) 21:13, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

FG was shown on CH4, seasons 1-3 were shown on CH4 then repeated on Sky1. Darrenhusted (talk) 15:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Eh it's "laugh 'n' cry" Seth MacFarlane said so in the commentary of the episode "He's Too Sexy For His Fat" Reliable Forever^talk 18:29, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

FOX got them to re-record that line in case of possible offence in Season 3-4. 86.112.184.69 (talk) 19:02, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

New York Accent

"His wife Lois...has a distinct New York accent..." That's supposed to be a New York accent?? 98.221.133.96 (talk) 10:01, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

It isn't supposed to be a New York accent. Where would she get a New York accent when she has lived in Rhode Island her whole life? I think that She and Peter both have a New England accent. **And if you disagree with me, then you sir, are worse, than Hitler!**--BrianGriffin-FG (talk) 01:18, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
**(JOKE! JOKE! IT'S A REFRENCE TO RED EYE ON FOX NEWS! RELAX!)**

I was quoting what it said in the article. I agree with you, it's not a New York accent. I think someone from the Midwest wrote that part of the article. 98.221.133.96 (talk) 12:12, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that's a mistake. Lois grew up in Newport, Rhode Island, so has a New England accent of some sort--definitely not from New York. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Treasurehouse (talk • contribs) 05:04, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

So, since the article is locked, how does it get edited? It says she has a New York Accent, from the Pewterschmidt family. Non sequitur. The Pewterschmidt family is from Newport RI. Both Peter and Lois seem to have some kind of fake Rhode Island accent, which doesn't sound like a Rhode Island accent to anyone from Rhode Island. Not as bad as the worst fake Boston accent (Ratzenburger as Clavin on Cheers), or the worst fake accent in hisory (Duvall as Holmes in the Seven Percent Solution), but certainly not an authentic quahog accent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.156.147.251 (talk) 23:41, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

I have added that she has a New England accent. Gopal81^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 19:05, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

• The article say's that Stewie has a "Mid-Atlantic English accent" what is that as i've never heard that expresion? i'd have said it was an upper class English Accent. Stagehunk (talk) 16:52, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Family Guy Sings!

I'm not sure where to put this in the article, but it's just been announced that the show's cast will be performing at Carnegie Hall for Family Guy Sings! links--> http://www.playbill.com/news/article/122248.html and http://www.theatermania.com/content/news.cfm/story/15753 Annie D (talk) 00:31, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

No Mention of Non Sequiturs

The article says the word "Sequence" over a dozen times, but there's no mention of Non Sequiturs which is the primary joke delivery method of the show. Instead it describes it as vignettes. Is there some fanatical TOW deletionist against any reference to these as Non Sequiturs? --24.241.228.210 (talk) 21:39, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Previous discussion thread on this subject: Talk:Family Guy/Archive 4#Non sequiturs.2C non

Non sequitur is the wrong word for this, which is why the term cutaway gag is used in this article. If we have a source which says the term non sequitur is used by the Family Guy producers, or the industry in general, it may make sense to add something like

The show uses frequent cutaway gags—"non sequiturs" in the jargon of the show's producers—jokes in the form of tangential vignettes.

Using the term non sequitur without further explanation in this article would be misleading to readers who know what that term really means. / edg ☺ ☭ 15:17, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

This article http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2006/01/16/060116crte_television in The New Yorker calls them non sequiturs The Illusional Ministry (talk) 12:14, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

non sequitur noun a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement. ORIGIN Latin, literally ‘it does not follow.’

New Oxford American Dictionary— Preceding unsigned comment added by The Illusional Ministry (talk • contribs) 12:14, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

This sort of information is better linked than copy/pasted; there are plenty of online dictionaries, but I usually start with DICT. It also repeats a previous discussion.

Thanks for the New Yorker link—it doesn't provide a working definition of non sequitur and seems to simply mean "does not follow", so the term cutaway gag is still more appropriate and specific. However, this article is a good citation for fart jokes, which are not mentioned in this article at all, and generally one decent source discussing the show's style of humor, which this article does not describe well. / edg ☺ ☭ 15:46, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

New American Dad! reference

Could somebody please add the American Dad! reference from 'I Dream Of Jesus' where Jesus is on Jay Leno and on the bottom of the screen it says 'Next: American Dad! season premiere'. Thanks. Peanut Butter Jelly (talk) 12:18, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't think that was a refrence on the show. I think that might have been a promo for the American Dad episode that was next. --BrianGriffin-FG (talk) 21:24, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I just checked my tivoed episode of it, and it's just a promo. There was no refrence.--BrianGriffin-FG (talk) 23:01, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

CGI

Could we mention the increased use of CGI (see "Road to Germany" for an example). Its so noticeable that when I think of the episode those shots are most of what I'm reminded of. Cs302b (talk) 05:22, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

• Only if you find a reliable source talking about it; otherwise it would be original research. DP76764 16:26, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

This site posts the latest episodes after they air...

Latest Family Guy Episodes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.119.215.193 (talk) 18:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Huh? Reliable Forever^talk 18:31, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Another meta-humor reference?

I was watching the episode Brian Does Hollywood today and noticed that Peter makes a comment that in hollywood shows characters always say something funny just before the commercial break. After this he sort of looks into the camera and does not say anything for a second before the commercial break. These are not the exact words, but I'm sure someone can verify (I'm from Europe and bought all my DVDs there and are a different region code than my player here in the US).

I think this reference should be added to the Meta-humor section of the article.

--Dutchjoel (talk) 02:15, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Unique title sequences

The episode Brian Does Hollywood (being a Part 2) also has an unique title sequence, recapping the previous episode (well, sort of).

--Dutchjoel (talk) 03:05, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Is there a better place for the list of unique title sequences in WP or no place at all as Tako8Yaki implies? I liked that material, thought it was interesting and useful, and can think of no better place to find it, then this WP article. --DAW0001 (talk) 21:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

• Well, Wikipedia does not encourage lists of trivia type material (WP:TRIVIA). That section was also completely unsourced. My question on the topic would be: how is the fact that the entry sequence is different (on a few occasions) notable? DP76764 (Talk) 21:57, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Seasons

I was just wondering why there isn't any mention of the individual seasons and the up and comming seasons and episodes. It would be nice to be able to read something about those in case people are contemplating buying one or the other, then they would know in which season what episode happened.--88.68.249.41 (talk) 13:35, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

See List of Family Guy episodes--DAW0001 (talk) 14:05, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

The Character Section Is to Confusing and hard to read.

I think that the section is to hard to understand, it uses to many big words. please change it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.149.113 (talk) 05:35, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Merging Family Guy: It takes a Village Idiot, and I Married One

noticed a merge proposal at the top of the article.

Why should it be merged? There are several publications and if one were merged then logically the others would have to be as well. I don't see why it shouldn't be kept as a seperate article. --Sturm55 (talk) 14:46, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing too. -- MISTER ALCOHOL ^{T C} 06:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Style of humor

A previous post on this page links a decent article from The New Yorker describing the Family Guy's humor. Can we collect a few more of these in hope of cobbling together a well-sourced section on the show's style of humor? There have been a few attempts in the past describing the show as "black humor" and "meta-humor", but I don't think either really covered it. Starting with high-quality critical sources and just drawing points from those might be a good way to go. / edg ☺ ☭ 15:56, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

2 afds

FYI:

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Herbert (Family Guy)

and

• Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Tom_Tucker_(Family_Guy)

Ikip (talk) 17:28, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Semi-Dysfunctional Family?

The fist para. states that the Griffins are a semi-dysfuntional family. Surely they are a dysfunctional family (tick many of the boxes in the table on the wiki page on this subject). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.13.128.120 (talk) 23:44, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Meta humor section

Discuss metahumor section here.--Loodog (talk) 19:20, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

It's completely unsourced. I don't think anyone can dispute that. Per WP:V, any unsourced material can be removed, and it has been tagged for a reasonable amount of time now. While I agree with you that disputes should be discussed, I am not disputing the suitability of the section, just that it is completely unsourced and appears to be completely Original Research. I suggest you look for sources otherwise it will have to be removed again. --Bill ^{(talk|contribs)} 19:31, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've tried a quick google for "Family Guy meta humor" and "Family Guy meta reference" and found nothing peer-reviewed. We'll have to shelve the section, which is a shame...--Loodog (talk) 20:08, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

The Lawsuits?

there has been no update on these yet, these have to be like, what, 2 years old?

could we please look up some more information on these? --66.61.74.191 (talk) 07:31, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

If you're interested in this information, you could research it and add it to Wikipedia. / edg ☺ ☭ 12:24, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

What should be added to the lawsuit page is not so much individuals suing the show, but special interest groups. The Parents Television Resource council has just filled an indecency complaint against the March 9th episode of the show.

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