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As of today (2. May 09), the Singaporean Health Ministry has informed all students at university that they must take thermometer measurements prior to entering exam halls from now on and are not permitted to enter if high. As students are not able to re-take any exam under any circumstances here, this means that they would have to fail that particular exam. - I know this is not really headline news, but I just felt like sharing the madness that the hysteria has caused around the world. There are no reported cases or probable cases in Singapore so far. Just thinking about thousands of students taking exams, I bet at least a few will have higher temperatures, and that they have to go through all this nonsense is just ridiculous. - In fact, knowing this country this is one of the typical measures taken to create fear in order for the citizens to rally around 'the' party in protection.
As of today (2. May 09), the Singaporean Health Ministry has informed all students at university that they must take thermometer measurements prior to entering exam halls from now on and are not permitted to enter if high. As students are not able to re-take any exam under any circumstances here, this means that they would have to fail that particular exam. - I know this is not really headline news, but I just felt like sharing the madness that the hysteria has caused around the world. There are no reported cases or probable cases in Singapore so far. Just thinking about thousands of students taking exams, I bet at least a few will have higher temperatures, and that they have to go through all this nonsense is just ridiculous. - In fact, knowing this country this is one of the typical measures taken to create fear in order for the citizens to rally around 'the' party in protection.


Any thoughts on mentioning something about the side-effects to all this hysteria? Unnecessary slaughtering of 300,000 pigs in Egypt and the like. (apparently they belonged mostly to Coptic Christians.) Or look at the number of possible cases in the UK - skyrocketing out of angst. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added 08:20, 2 May 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Any thoughts on mentioning something about the side-effects to all this hysteria? Unnecessary slaughtering of 300,000 pigs in Egypt and the like. (apparently they belonged mostly to Coptic Christians.) Or look at the number of possible cases in the UK - skyrocketing out of angst.
* update: This measure applies to all facilities run by the Education Ministry and on top of this all students in the entire country are 'required' to submit a temperature measurement on a daily basis. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added 08:20, 2 May 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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Germany

Could someone who understands German please have a look at the Germany section? It is in very poor English right now and the sole reference in in German. magnius (talk) 16:38, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This says that a guy and his sister may have been infected after he got back from a trip to Mexico. The two had normal flu symptoms—however, rapid tests showed that neither him nor his sister have A/H1N1. A spokesperson of the hospital said that she didn't know about a third person. By the way, Bielefeld isn't at the Dutch-German border. --Fabian Göttgens (talk) 17:06, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the section, if you edit it here I'll copy it back into the article Tim Vickers (talk) 17:09, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In Germany is a suspect case, just at the border with The Netherlands.

The flu is in two men and a woman, who are in isolation in a hospital.

They came back from a trip to Mexico and felt a bit feverish.[1]

Please update the numbers on Germany. The 3 cases mentioned in the initial source are confirmed negative influenza A - so it's not swine flu. Source: http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/0,1518,621426,00.html. (Headline says All-clear for suspicious swine flu cases). Btw, local hospitals have not seen any "third" person - there have been only two persons quarantained and tested. And the mentioned city, Bielefeld, is not on the German-Netherlands border, it's pretty much central. If you want to specify the localisation, I suggest "in the state of Northrhine-Westphalia". --hilmarwoy 20:58, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As of April 27, there are three more suspected cases: http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/0,1518,621618,00.html -- 77.176.79.59 (talk) 12:24, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Brazil

Brazil already adds up 4 suspects of the Swine Flu. Two are interned in Belo Horizonte with suspicion of swine flu. It rises for 4 persons interned in Brazil with suspicion of swine flu. A couple was interned by suspicion of swine flu in the Hospital of the Clinics of Belo Horizonte, in this Monday (27). According to the General office of Health of Minas Gerais, the couple had spent some days in Mexico and began to present the symptoms of the flu still in the aircraft, which landed during the dawn in the International Airport Tancredo Neves. The two will be subdued to examinations.

The first 2 suspected cases are no longer suspected cases - the pacients showed no signs flu. But yes, we can now talk of (only) 2 suspected in Minas Gerais 189.121.179.143 (talk) 19:33, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1 - http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/Brasil/0,,MUL1099897-5598,00.html

2 - http://oglobo.globo.com/mundo/mat/2009/04/27/casal-internado-com-suspeita-de-gripe-suina-em-bh-755454490.asp

3 - http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/brasil/html/2009/4/casal_vindo_do_mexico_e_internado_em_mg_com_suspeita_de_gripe_suina_8672.html

4 - Source: http://ultimosegundo.ig.com.br/brasil/2009/04/27/casaleinternadocomsuspeitadegripesuinaemmg+5781907.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodfanaia (talkcontribs) 19:48, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We should add Brazil to list with 2 possible cases. Marcosrom (talk) 20:19, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bosnia and Herzegovina's respone not notable?

From the article:

"Bosnia and Herzegovina

No immediate steps were taken by the government as the swine flu does not seem to be a problem for now. The government officials met in Sarajevo on April 26 and determined that it would not ban any imports of meat."

To me, this response doesn't seem notable for inclusion into the article. What does everyone else think? Cordovao (talk) 19:26, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, removed. –Juliancolton | Talk 19:26, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I am also concerned this may not be notable:

"Italy

Italy's agriculture lobby, Coldiretti, warned against panic reaction, noting that farmers lost hundreds of millions of euros due to consumer boycotts during the 2001 mad cow scare and the 2005 bird flu outbreak" Cordovao (talk) 19:39, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Plus:

"Argentina

All passengers arriving to the country from Mexico and United States must fill out a form to be located in case they show symptoms of flu according to an Epidemic Alert order issued by The Ministry of Health." Cordovao (talk) 19:48, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a bit more hesitant to remove that, as it includes actual info (rather than simply "Nothing has been done here"). –Juliancolton | Talk 19:50, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Understood. Cordovao (talk) 19:57, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Portugal

The Portuguese Minister of Health released a written statement confirming that there aren't any cases in the country, that the security measures have been increased, some advices regarding travellers to the affected zones and remembering the 24-hour active phoneline from the Ministry (808 24 24 24) to those presenting symptoms.

http://www.dgs.pt/upload/membro.id/ficheiros/i010814.pdf (portuguese) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Borgesj (talkcontribs) 21:43, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Addition necessary: Portuguese Health System reaction

Two women who arrived from Mexico to Lisbon on the 27th of April 2009 with flu-like symptoms are considered to possibly have Swine Flu. However, they have not been tested for the strain, and have been told, during a visit to the hospital, to stay home for 10 days.

Reference: http://ultimahora.publico.clix.pt/noticia.aspx?id=1377186&idCanal=62

"Ainda de acordo com o mesmo jornal, as portuguesas estiveram de férias em Puebla, a 190 quilómetros da Cidade do México e, no voo de regresso, fizeram escala nos Estados Unidos. Quando chegaram a Portugal, perante alguns sintomas de gripe e diarreia, telefonaram para a Linha Saúde 24 que as reencaminhou para o hospital, onde terão ido duas vezes mas sem serem submetidas a exames médicos específicos. Foi-lhe apenas dito para aguardarem dez dias em casa."

Sahbapasta (talk) 15:34, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New Zealand

Recently after 22 students and 3 teachers from Rangitoto College (a High School in Auckland) returned from a tour in Mexico, New Zealand health officials have said "it was [is] likely nine students and one teacher who returned to Auckland after a trip to Mexico on Saturday have contracted it". 5 of the students have tests results returned showing they are positive and have been put in isolation. One of the teachers is also suspected but has not received test results. Later druing the day (28 April, Tuesday, 2009), all the people who have been givin treatment (put in isolation and givin Tamiflu) are doing a lot better, which is a sign. The young people who had positive for Swine Flu are doing a lot better and also feel better, and are ready to get out of isolation soon enough. CNN Reported 3 students from Northcote college are now showing symtoms. And on Tuesday morning, 28 April 2009, New Zealand health officials are investigating another possible 56 further cases of swine flu (NZ Swine Flu Cases have gone up another 10, now standing at 66 cases). New Zealand Health Officials also says "New Zealand always handles such outbreaks quickly and makes plans to prevent the outbreak[s] spreading and/or getting worse. We always investigate and prevent, and work as quickly as we can. New Zealand is serious when these threats come our way, and then we start working on vacinnes". Health Minister Tony Ryall told a press conference in Wellington today it would be six to eight months before a swine flu vaccine could be produced. TVNZ One News told the nation to put together a kit, including gloves, masks and Tamiflu Pills. Although according to paharmacys in Auckland, you need a prescription in order to buy these pills. New Zealand Health Line says since yesturday their calls have raised 60% which all calls where information about the Swine Flu, and One News's kit plan. According to the public in Christchurch, they don't need prescriptions. And Pharmacy's Confirmed the Tammy Pills has been selling and their stock inadvance is also been sold. Aucklanders complained because in Auckland you need to be sick and then need a prescription but Christchurch does'nt. On Monday 27 April, 2009 New Zealand Priminsiter told New Zealand "New Zealand is well prepared to handle swine flu and has increased surveillance". Mr Key said the Government was invoking its flu plan and health officials hiked the potential influenza epidemic status to yellow, just below the code red response phase. John Key said "I think New Zealanders can be confident that the government has a plan, that plan was put in place quite a number of years ago when we were concerned about avian bird flu," Mr Key told Breakfast on TV One. And on Tuesday morning NZ Officials confirms Ten Rangitoto College students have tested positive for influenza A after they came down with mild flu symptoms on returning from Mexico on Saturday. People on the flight are being checked out. And it maybe imposible to contact all 300 + passengers on that flight. There was a total of two flights with not every passenger will be able to be contacted. Health Minister Tony Ryall this morning (Tuesday 28 April 2009) said a further three children, from Northcote College who also visited Mexico , have started developing symptoms. But it is not confirmed that they have the Swine Flu. Mr Key (John Key, Prime Minister of NZ) said the plan set up since the 2003 bird flu scare meant New Zealand had good stocks of the Tamiflu vaccine -- about 1.4 million treatments and the single gateway into New Zealand via Auckland meant control was easier. Options included people not being allowed onto Air New Zealand flights if they were ill and those who arrive at Auckland being sent by a doctor stationed there since 5am for checks. He urged people who suspect they may have the flu to see a doctor, for sick people to stay home and precautions like hand washing and covering mouths when sneezing to be taken. Mr Key said the 10 cases of influenza A appeared to be mild. Althogh there are over 56 Cases since Monday 27 April 2009. New Zealand has Confirmed New Zealander's have the symtoms, but after taking Tamiflu they become better within hours. John Key has moved NZ to Level Yellow on Monday 27 April, 2009. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neben93 (talkcontribs) 00:02, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New Zealand has confirmed cases.

http://www.3news.co.nz/News/Swine-flu-confirmed-in-NZ/tabid/209/articleID/101621/cat/87/Default.aspx

Tony Ryall, health minister just confirmed it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.237.100.88 (talk) 09:21, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

3 confirmed, likely that 11 will be soon. 43 possible...

http://tvnz.co.nz/health-news/students-test-positive-swine-flu-2684698 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.136.128.201 (talk) 10:30, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New Zealand? No one has died there. Why is this even noteable? Wallie (talk) 12:59, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Because New Zealand's location effectively changes the disease from an epidemic to a pandemic at least as far as the Pacific Theatere is concerned. Furthermore No one has died in anywhere but Mexico, but the response seems notable. --PigFlu Oink (talk) 13:02, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In the last outbreak in 1918 of the flu, 8900 people died in New Zealand. There is no article about this. Sometimes I wonder about the balance in Wikipedia. Wallie (talk) 14:13, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
All this means is that no one has gotten around to writing about New Zealand in the 1918 flu... yet. rootology (C)(T) 14:18, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't hold my breath. I guess that people now think that this 2009 version is more important. It is quite sad really. Wallie (talk) 14:33, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing sad about this. Is there any value to Wikipedia to your being so negative for no good reason? People write what they're interested in, or what's right in front of them. This is Human Nature 101 going back hundreds of years. When someone is interested in a red link that doesn't exist, they'll write it. It not existing today isn't a fault of any of us or "Wikipedia" or "Web 2.0" or any such thing. If you have something helpful to add to the creation and growth of this article, please help out. Otherwise, pages you have an interest in improving are --> that way. rootology (C)(T) 14:36, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Can't see how to edit the table. NZ still has only 3 confirmed cases, not the 14 as some German source indicated. The others are only confirmed as Influenza A1, but this may change soon. rossnixon 11:43, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK, found how to edit table, here. Template:2009_swine_flu_outbreak_table rossnixon 11:58, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New Zealand now has 4 confirmed cases. However no details have been provided about the new confirmed case other than that it is not one of the Rangitoto college group. The MOH has also stopped providing a geographic breakdown of the figures, so we don't know what geographic area the new confirmed case is in. Hence the map is now out of date as there may now be a confirmed case outside Auckland. Furthermore we have no way of updating it. We may be forced to consider deleting it.Hawthorn (talk) 09:09, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Flu cases in Sweden turn out not to be swine influenza

Would some one edit the table? Here is my source: http://www.smittskyddsinstitutet.se/svininfluensa/aktuellt/negativa-provsvar-om-misstankt-svininfluensa/ (in Swedish) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.103.205.150 (talk) 20:21, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The source is the 'Swedish Institute for Infections Disease Control' Google Translate Follows

Negative test results on suspected swine influenza Today, Monday April 27, the Infectious Diseases Institute analyzed three samples from suspected cases of swine flu, all with a negative result. Two samples analyzed during the day at Malmö General Hospital, MAS, has been negative. Three of the sampled individuals have visited Mexico (one woman in 29 years, two men of 52 and 65 years) and a U.S. person (69-year-old man). For the fifth person has SMI no information on visiting country or age.

--PigFlu Oink (talk) 20:25, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

-> So that reduces number of suspected cases in Sweden to zero. --82.103.205.150 (talk) 20:32, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

->Besides the 5 mentioned, there is more test on the way. Source: Swedish gazette in swedish language http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article5008594.ab

Brazil: Belo Horizonte registers one more suspect of swine flu

A man was interned in the Hospital of the Clinics of Belo Horizonte, in this Monday (27), with suspect of swine flu. According to the General office of Health of Minas Gerais, he is not fitted inside the criteria of suspicion of the Ministry of Health.

In accordance with the General office, the boy passed by a clinical evaluation and did not present all the symptoms of the swine flu. He can have another disease and is going to take the exams for precaution.

The doctors also gathered material, which was directed to analysis. According to the hospital, the boy would have returned recently of the United States.

In the moment he is passing by examinations.

1 - http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/Brasil/0,,MUL1100227-5598,00-BELO+HORIZONTE+REGISTRA+MAIS+UM+SUSPEITO+DE+GRIPE+SUINA.html

Other cases 

A couple also was interned by suspect of swine flu in the Hospital of the Clinics of Belo Horizonte, in this Monday (27).

According to the General office of Health of Minas Gerais, the couple had spent some days in Mexico and began to present the symptoms of the flu still in the aircraft, which landed during the dawn in the International Airport Tancredo Neves.

1 - http://oglobo.globo.com/mundo/mat/2009/04/27/casal-internado-com-suspeita-de-gripe-suina-em-bh-755454490.asp

2 - http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/brasil/html/2009/4/casal_vindo_do_mexico_e_internado_em_mg_com_suspeita_de_gripe_suina_8672.html

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Might anybody update and to add Brazil in the Cases by country? Thx !! --Rodfanaia (talk) 22:41, 27 April 2009 (UTC) Rodfanaia (talk) 22:33, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

UPDATED:

The man arrived of Nova Iorque, in the United States, ten days ago. Firstly, he looked for service in a health center of the capital. The doctors of the unity dectaram possible signs of the pig flu and they directed, therefore, it to the HC.

The patient is interned in the same wing in which the couple is. The hospital is the only one of the state{condition} prepared to pay attention to this type of case. A filter obstructs the contamination of diseases for the air.

In accordance with the advisory body of press of the HC, three patients are being subdued to examinations and they will be interned until the diagnosis is given. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodfanaia (talkcontribs) 23:00, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Brazil: 3 for 11 the suspect cases of swine flu..

The Ministry of Health, of the government, spread in the night of this Monday a note informing that it accompanies the level of health of 11 persons who came from the countries affected by the swine flu with the symptoms of the disease. In accordance with the organ, however, no case was confirmed till night of this Monday.

According to the organ, three cases are being investigated in Mines, two in the Rio de Janeiro, two in the Amazon, other two in the Rio grande do norte, one in Sao Paulo and the last thing in the Pará. The persons are being monitored by the respective state general offices of Health.

Source: http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/cotidiano/ult95u557093.shtml --Rodfanaia (talk) 01:43, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

South Korea

South Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports one probable case up to today(Apr 28th). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leedukh (talkcontribs) 08:08, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

China

Several suspected human swine flu cases in China http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/425467/1/.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Intershark (talkcontribs) 08:45, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Czech Republic

Just letting editors know that the Czech Rep has 0 in all categories in the table so either it is an error or it needs to be removed. Lachy123 (talk) 09:50, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is to reflect that the previously suspected case turned out not to be swine flu. But not sure --Replysixty (talk) 10:23, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poland

Still on map, not anymore in the table in the header... I know the Polish "possible case" seems more like panic (with slightly elevated temperature and not a real fever), but we should decide on one version. And either erase from map or put in table. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.205.85.216 (talk) 11:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Brazil

Can anyone please update the map and add Brazil as a possible case? Here is the reference http://oglobo.globo.com/mundo/mat/2009/04/27/terceira-suspeita-de-gripe-suina-registrada-em-belo-horizonte-755466269.asp —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodfanaia (talkcontribs) 23:39, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Belo Horizonte - The mining capital registered the third suspect of Swine flu in this afternoon of Monday. After the admission of a couple that was passing honeymoon in Mexico and in Panama, the Hospital of the Doctors (HC) confirmed the entry of one more patient with symptoms of the disease. The man arrived of New York, in the United States, ten days ago. Firstly, he looked for service in a health center of the capital. The doctors of the unity detected possible signs of the Swine flu and, therefore, they directed it to the HC.

The patient is interned in the same wing in which the couple is. The hospital is the only one of the state prepared to pay attention to this type of case. A filter obstructs the contamination of diseases for the air. In accordance with the advisory body of press of the hospital, three patients are being subdued to examinations and they will be interned until the diagnosis is given.

1 - http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/Brasil/0,,MUL1100227-5598,00-BELO+HORIZONTE+REGISTRA+MAIS+UM+SUSPEITO+DE+GRIPE+SUINA.html

Other cases

A couple also was interned by suspect of swine flu in the Hospital of the Clinics of Belo Horizonte, in this Monday (27).

According to the General office of Health of Minas Gerais, the couple had spent some days in Mexico and began to present the symptoms of the flu still in the aircraft, which landed during the dawn in the International Airport Tancredo Neves.

1 - http://oglobo.globo.com/mundo/mat/2009/04/27/casal-internado-com-suspeita-de-gripe-suina-em-bh-755454490.asp

2 - http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/brasil/html/2009/4/casal_vindo_do_mexico_e_internado_em_mg_com_suspeita_de_gripe_suina_8672.html--Rodfanaia (talk) 23:35, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Update Brazil map, Espírito Santo has a suspected case, citing official sources.

1 - http://gazetaonline.globo.com/_conteudo/2009/04/81527-surge+primeira+suspeita+de+gripe+suina+no+espirito+santo.html

2 - http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/cotidiano/ult95u557632.shtml

About 21 mexicans workers isolated and Vitoria

1 - http://gazetaonline.globo.com/_conteudo/2009/04/81299-mexicanos+que+atuarao+em+navio+estao+sob+observacao+em+vitoria.html

2 - http://www.folhavitoria.com.br/site/?target=noticia&cid=8&ch=9207d64ab77b61c5ec034214825c46d6&nid=111181 --201.78.51.25 (talk) 12:47, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Svalbard

Why is Svalbard also highlighted? Has there been a suspected or confirmed case there? Alloverme (talk) 23:39, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Because it's part of Norway, and Norway is highlighted? (you could ask why Alaska is highlighted too...) 76.66.202.139 (talk) 09:27, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

South Korea

News says suspected infected person in South Korea seems to be cured. We will have to wait for more info then we can remove South Korea from the list.Kadrun (talk) 02:57, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Technically it won't be removed but it will be updated to 0 with a source (so that we don't mistakenly re-add the same infected source back in later). Also we should start recording or attempting to record a 'total infected' estimates that include all persons who have recovered from the disease. --PigFlu Oink (talk) 03:00, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, but for this case, the victim was only "suspected", so when this victim recovers, make sure not to include as "recovered"Kadrun (talk) 03:12, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

http://media.daum.net/society/view.html?cateid=100001&newsid=20090429104208300&p=nocut (Korean) "이 환자의 경우 처음 증상도 일반 감기보다 약했다" -> the suspect's symptom was even weaker than normal cold Kadrun (talk) 04:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There's strange person who insists on Dokudo. Does s/he consider Dokudo as independent country? I suspect irrelevant activism here. (YD) 125.195.140.81 (talk) 13:38, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deaths

American deaths are expected. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090428/ap_on_he_me/med_swine_flu --Sky Attacker (talk) 06:09, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Saying that the flu kills is like saying that the sky is blue. No news here. Rmhermen (talk) 21:41, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Map of Germany

The map of Germany is pointless at best and misleadingly alarmist at worst. There is one confirmed case in Nuremberg, with the result that all of Bavaria is now colored red on the map as if the entire state were somehow infected. I removed it, but it was restored without even the courtesy of an explanation in an edit summary. Thoughts? —Angr 09:23, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It should remain red, there is one confirmed case, therefore it should be red. Consider the Canadian provinces, the larger of which are 3x the size of Germany, but they're colored red. Or the world map, where the US and Canada are the size of Europe, but they're colored red, while the entirety of Europe isn't. 76.66.202.139 (talk) 12:09, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
My point was not that Bavaria shouldn't be colored red, but that the map shouldn't be there at all. But now I see there are similar maps for many other countries, so either they should all go or they should all stay. I still think all of them are misleading as both confirmed and unconfirmed cases are so sporadic (at least outside Mexico). It's not like it's spreading across communities of people in countries like Germany and Canada. —Angr 12:19, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
All of the maps are painted like that, per state not per city so I don't see the point of this complaint.--Avala (talk) 13:22, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Israel

Israel has two confirmed cases and two *more* suspected, yet for some reason the table has only 2 suspected and 0 confirmed. 77.23.20.89 (talk) 12:05, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Patient Zero

Edgar Hernandez, 5yo boy, contracted from Smithfield Farms (Smithfield Foods) pigfarm in Veracruz, Mexico (state), according to CNN, Sanjay Gupta. (aired 9am EDT 29 April 2009 CE) 76.66.202.139 (talk) 13:07, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No that is not what that report stated. There is so far no indication of any swine anywhere having this virus. Rmhermen (talk) 21:38, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

North American map

There's a North American map available: image:H1N1 North America Map.svg

76.66.202.139 (talk) 14:20, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]




Australia Map

There are unconfirmed cases in Queensland and Western Australia yet the map does not indicate that. I would be happy to rectify this if someone could please tell me which software to use. SVG files don't load in GIMP.

Flaviusvulso (talk) 00:40, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Australia now has two confirmed cases. --AtlanticDeep (talk) 01:57, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The file is a .svg file and can be edited with a text editor to change the colours, it is not binary. But the line was too long for vi. I used sed but it stuffed the last line. The colour for suspected is #ffa900, for the grey bits it is set to rgb(185, 185, 185) Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:27, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]


India

I've added India to the table, someone please do the needful and make a section. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Swine-flu-reaches-India/articleshow/4465683.cmsxeno talk 00:56, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Since both the WHO and the Indian Ministry of Health have both made official statements that India does not have suspected H1N1 cases, why is India listed as having suspected cases? --Aumnamahashiva (talk) 20:04, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Peru

Peru has confirmed its first swine flu's case. look the link (Spanish) http://mx.reuters.com/article/topNews/idMXN2940858920090430

I added 1 confirmed and 3 suspected to Template:2009 swine flu outbreak table. Reference: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N29406739.htm. -M.Nelson (talk) 01:15, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Map still needs to be updated. -M.Nelson (talk) 01:38, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Done. CB...(ö) 03:26, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Belize

Looks like they are looking at three cases that might be swine flu. Hardly surprising considering that Belize borders Mexico. Worth mentioning on this article yet? Sabine's Sunbird talk 03:05, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

South America map

There's a South America map available. File:H1N1 South America Map.svg

76.66.202.139 (talk) 04:41, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



File:Swine Flu map NZ.PNG

File:Swine Flu map NZ.PNG has been nominated for speedy deletion. 76.66.202.139 (talk) 05:19, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The map was reuploaded and is again up for speedy deletion. 76.66.202.139 (talk) 07:26, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is it necessary

Palau, P. New Guinea, Solomon Islands, Tonga, etc. Who cares about those little countries? --Maru-Spanish (talk) 15:09, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The encylopedia does. --PigFlu Oink (talk) 15:11, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I do but thank those small countries, the page is slower. --Maru-Spanish (talk) 15:19, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I care about them, because they are my neighbours. I don't care about the US, Canada, France or the Bahamas, because they are far away. See how this works? We ensure comprehensive coverage by not succumbing to our biases and interests and instead covering the entirety of what there s to cover. Sabine's Sunbird talk 19:39, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't care about Sabine because he don't live near me.... but since he contributes to WP I hope hes doing ok :). --PigFlu Oink (talk) 19:42, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Canada

On the main page for the outbreak, it states Canada's total confirmed cases is 27 (up from 19), but the link to the source only states 19. Can anyone verify it has actually increased to 27? Zoonosis (talk) 20:02, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No its 32 here --PigFlu Oink (talk) 20:38, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

China

The People's Republic of China now has a suspected case according to Google Maps. [1] -download | sign! 01:35, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:CDC MMWR M8d0430a2f.gif

File:CDC MMWR M8d0430a2f.gif exists, it is similar to File:CDC MMWR m8d0428a2f.gif

76.66.202.139 (talk) 07:46, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The new image applies to Mexico, the old one applies to USA. 76.66.202.139 (talk) 11:36, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

French wikipedia version

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fr:Épidémie de grippe porcine H1N1 par pays

please add

[[fr:Épidémie de grippe porcine H1N1 par pays]]

76.66.202.139 (talk) 07:52, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

checkY Done.--Amore Mio (talk) 08:02, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Map location

{{editsemiprotected}}

Please move the world map back to the top, on the right side. It does not display properly when the browser windows are of a certain width. It only works well on wide (full screen, high res ) browser settings, or very narrow settings. 76.66.202.139 (talk) 07:58, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. Semiprotection was dropped. Celestra (talk) 14:46, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

World map

{{editsemiprotected}}

Please also restore the legend to the map that used to be attached to it. 76.66.202.139 (talk) 08:49, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. Semiprotection was dropped. Celestra (talk) 14:47, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Romania

There's a new map available, Image:H1N1 Romania Map.svg. 76.66.202.139 (talk) 09:02, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently there's a JPEG version showing one area coloured in as a suspected case area... (File:Romania map arad.JPG)
76.66.202.139 (talk) 12:17, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lithuania

Three mores suspected cases in Lithuania. A family of three. One memeber returned from USA 22.4. Source is in Estonian language. Feel free to update the tables if You know. http://www.postimees.ee/?id=114053 62.71.208.220 (talk) 18:58, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Human-to-human transfer

Should the table in this article and the 2009 swine flu outbreak not now have a column showing human-to-human transfer? This is more of an indicator of the outbreak than holidaymakers returning home. Countries where this is happening are announcing it.--ML5 (talk) 19:39, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We looked at that on the US State table, the numbers would be almost impossible to verify and more often than not are OR. For Human to Human: if you want to know, take the total and subtract 1, the kid who touched the pig. --PigFlu Oink (talk) 19:43, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Number of suspected cases that are NEGATIVE

The one thing I see missing from the table that would give a ratio indication of the transmission rate of the virus now, is a column to report on the number of suspected cases that are reported to be NEGATIVE. The table over time, depicts the change in status to the number of cases that are postive.

Further, the number of suspected cases that are reported fluctuates a lot more than the confirmed cases. Right now that only shows one side of the story as suspected cases may be removed because it some are erroneous, not becuase it was confirmed negative. So perhaps report the erroneous number as well, if not here on another page. It is vital to understand how many suspected and investigated cases are reporting NEGATIVE. This may obviously be very hard to do as bad news is discovered and spread more than news that does not shock, but reduces the expectation of the event. Prehaps Google Flu Trends can help.

This page is BRILLIANT, it is a fairly accrurate (as fairly can be) and vital number representation of the past week, this can not be found anywhere else. The version history will be (painful) but valuable for someone if the wanted to try to estimated the doubling time of the suspects and confirmed case. That is an important figure. For people and not only Google, to be trending the future, we need to think of the value that this massive community of people can make in realtime, to assiting us to get an informed overview of the current state and future evolution. To ALL technical people out there humanity has a virus and we have no patch, it has spread to multiple subnets and it is spreading within these subnets, it has spread from a subnet to another. AND we are NOT shutting down the gateways. If it does not stop naturely than we have a pandemic already. The network has a virus.

What is the infection ratio, what is the transmission rate, these are not the most important things. These numbers will represent the change, either way, decrease or increase. Someone that knows wikipedia better than I would know if that was possible to do or not.

Thanks

Singapore

False alarms and hysteria?

As of today (2. May 09), the Singaporean Health Ministry has informed all students at university that they must take thermometer measurements prior to entering exam halls from now on and are not permitted to enter if high. As students are not able to re-take any exam under any circumstances here, this means that they would have to fail that particular exam. - I know this is not really headline news, but I just felt like sharing the madness that the hysteria has caused around the world. There are no reported cases or probable cases in Singapore so far. Just thinking about thousands of students taking exams, I bet at least a few will have higher temperatures, and that they have to go through all this nonsense is just ridiculous. - In fact, knowing this country this is one of the typical measures taken to create fear in order for the citizens to rally around 'the' party in protection.

Any thoughts on mentioning something about the side-effects to all this hysteria? Unnecessary slaughtering of 300,000 pigs in Egypt and the like. (apparently they belonged mostly to Coptic Christians.) Or look at the number of possible cases in the UK - skyrocketing out of angst.


  • update: This measure applies to all facilities run by the Education Ministry and on top of this all students in the entire country are 'required' to submit a temperature measurement on a daily basis. —Preceding unsigned comment added 08:20, 2 May 2009 (UTC)