User talk:J.delanoy

My wheel-warring policy:

Admins: If you see me make a logged action that you think I should not have done, I will not consider it wheel-warring if you undo it without asking for my permission. However, if I marked the action as being done after running a checkuser query, or as part of a sockpuppet investigation, you should ask me or another checkuser before undoing it. In any case, if you do revert one of my actions, I would appreciate it if you tell me that you did so. Thanks!

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Spam Links

My apologies J.delanoy. I was unaware what I was doing was spam since there are links to myspaces as well as other user pages for artists. I personally don't see how those are different, but maybe you could clarify? If external links to media sites are not allowed, then shouldn't all of them be deleted?

Not trying to be a pain, I just think the rule should be a definite yes or no, instead of some sites being allowed, and others not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrmike110 (talk • contribs) 15:05, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Links to bands' profiles on MySpace have long been allowed, because many, many bands actively update their MySpace profiles, and some even communicate information to their fans via MySpace before they do so even on their own official websites. They certainly do not do the same thing on the website you were linking to. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 16:00, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

So what about Purevolume or allmusic? Those have work off of Band label and management contributions, which is the same as the site I was posting. --Mrmike110 (talk) 16:22, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

They are professional, reputable, notable sites. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 16:23, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

So it comes down to personal opinion then? That site I was posting is very professinal, reputable, and notable among the bands and fans that I was posting it on. It's done a lot of work with and for them.

Check out these bands. Take a look at their external links for instance:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saliva_(band)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_(band) (especially this one)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_Black_Stare

All of these sites have links that (by going off my deletions) would not be notable, reputable, and/or professional. As for me, I think those sites are great and wiki shouldn't delete them. Wiki has nofollow tags which don't affect a sites search engine rankings, so why would it be an issue? These sites and the one I posted are sites that offer interviews and other media with the band. They should be welcome to an encylopedia article that is trying to give fans of the music every possible resource. --Mrmike110 (talk) 16:56, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

If your links are not spam, why do you care that other articles have links to other sites? Wikipedia is not a web directory or a collection of external links. Mass-adding links to articles like you did is spamming. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 16:58, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

If I just add the links slower than, like once a day or week then its ok? It doesnt matter to me that those links are on there, I was just going off of your words saying that the site was not professional, reputable, or notable when those sites posted have the same general purpose. If my links are allowed, just not all in the same day of posting then I'm fine with that. --Mrmike110 (talk) 17:57, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey JD, So if the adding links is ok, but just at a slower rate, can I get those other links reactivated? Then I will be more mindful when I start posting the other links to band pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrmike110 (talk • contribs) 16:43, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism events of this afternoon

This afternoon, we were supposed to be researching on the internet. It was then that a few of my classmates discovered that you can actually edit Wikipedia (!) To my dismay, some of them embarked upon a vandalism spree. This afternoon, you blocked Iamgoingtobeurfriend after various edits made to Chesterfield, see here for instance, plus one edit to Alien vs. Predator (film). They were actually sat two places away from me, and though I tried to stop them by returning to my place and attempting to revert their edits, I always got caught up in an edit conflict with further vandalism. I warned them that they would get blocked if they continued, but still they carried on and you blocked them. Another rogue editor in the room chose to use the school IP, which has been used to vandalise many times before. You blocked them for one year. Without blocking, these people would still be at large, for they ignored the warnings that were sent to them and ignored the 'you have new messages' bar. Though I did yell at them to stop, they did not. I warn that they may start again. I said that if they were to create other accounts for vandalism, they would just get blocked again and maybe get accused of sockpuppetry. They laughed at the term and went to tell everyone that I am an editor of Wikipedia. I wonder if incidents with editors and vandals in the same room happen often. So, I say thank you for blocking them, for they may have continued vandalising otherwise. Wikiert ^{T S C} 18:33, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

(somehow missed this) Thanks for telling me, and for trying to get them to stop. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 16:36, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

[Request to Restore Page] BITOSA Bangalore

Hi J,

Thank you to give me opportunity to request you restore my deleted article [1]. I certainly appreciate you taking pains in maintaining world's largest encyclopedia nonsense free. Unfortunately, my article became a victim of the deletion policy. Kindly consider restoring it.

The article is about our Alumni Association (BITOSA Bangalore - Birla Institute of Technology Old Students Association, Bangalore). The association is more than two decades old and it got established formally four years back. Like many existing alumni associations, ours is one such association of ex-students of India's prominent engineering college Birla Institute of Technology.

It is neither a company nor an organization for making profits. Its member alumni can be found around the globe. And hence the article, which I wrote about it. The small article is just to introduce it to the world. You can verify by visiting its website [2].

I hope I don't need to give you any example from many alumni associations already existing in Wikipedia. I also hope that this article will get restored soon.

Thank you in advance!

Thanks Amitabh 122.167.85.44 (talk) 11:15, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

I deleted it because it didn't say why it was notable. You should provide some citations to reliable sources. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 16:23, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Unfair Reverts

Can you please slow down? Three times today I've tried to revert vandalism, and hit the "save" button only to find out you've done it already. This is not fair :( Please slow down. --Mpdelbuono (talk) 19:28, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'm using an automatic tool to revert vandalism, so I have an advantage right there. If you want, I can get off for a little. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 19:29, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

It was just a joke, keep doing what you're doing :) --Mpdelbuono (talk) 19:30, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh, okay :D J.delanoy^gabs_adds 19:32, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

hi

all i did is to remove the fake and provocative word indo-european!ancient macedonian language was a greek dialect,so the distinct categorizing is not excused!Greek is also an indoeuropean language,i don t make sense —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.64.200.5 (talk) 20:35, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Greek is not a recognized language family. Indo-European is. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 20:37, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

hi

but ancient Macedonian is a dialect of the ancient Greek language,by putting it under the generally word"indo-european language"shows that it is not Greek,something that is scientifically wrong! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.64.200.5 (talk) 20:42, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

copy of a deleted (A7) page please?

Hi, could you do me a favor, and get me a copy of the recently deleted page Gitorious? I don't know enough to know if it should be un-deleted in place, so unless you feel like looking into that, I'd appreciate a copy of it in my userspace. Thanks! - JasonWoof (talk) 21:36, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

see User:JasonWoof/Gitorious. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 21:41, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

P.S. My intention is to add notability info as I find it, and as it becomes available, and eventually get this article back into WP. I will ask for help in deciding if/when it's ready. - JasonWoof (talk) 21:59, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Awesome. Thank you! - JasonWoof (talk) 22:09, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi, since JasonWoof has apparently not done much with his page, may I ask that my revised version at User:Tuxcantfly/Gitorious (I also copied it to User:JasonWoof/Gitorious), emphasizing more on the notability of the open-source server-side software and external deployments (Sugar), be reviewed for re-inclusion? —Preceding undated comment added 16:55, 12 July 2009 (UTC).

hi there - re my edit to ron paul

Hi there

I edited the Jon Paul site. I just wanted to say that what I said was factual. I saw the movie and everything was exact. Please refer to this link for proof: http://www.slate.com/id/2213882/

or here: http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Watch-Bruno-Shock-Ron-Paul-13489.html

or any here: http://www.google.com/search?q=ron+paul+bruno&rls=com.microsoft:en-gb:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ADBS_en

If you want to protect a homophobic, nasty old man, then congrats. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.217.100.211 (talk) 22:10, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Someone wants attention

I just reverted some "Soviet Russia" joke vandalism by Special:Contributions/202.150.120.123 and was going to post a message at User talk:202.150.120.123. However, I decided not to when I noticed that it has a joke message mentioning your name. You may want to look. If you choose not to rise to the bait and would like me to remove it and post a bland warning, please reply here. Johnuniq (talk) 04:43, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

I deleted the page. Thanks for letting me know. I rangeblocked him, and I suppose he is none too happy about it. Cheers! J.delanoy^gabs_adds 04:46, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Deletion

You may want to undelete the article B.B. Lyngdoh. The article subject is clearly notable (Chief Minister of a state), and a google search could produce immediate refs to the claims in the article, such as http://www.hindu.com/2003/10/28/stories/2003102808571200.htm . --Soman (talk) 07:53, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Black Hawk War

I stumbled across this while working on my latest USMA list and it's in pretty good shape. I've started fixing it up and listed it at Good Article Noms. Any help would be appreciated. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:19, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

To my (mostly) inexperienced eye, it seems to be well-written, but I don't have much article-writing under my belt, so I don't know how accurate my assessment is. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 21:36, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

semi-protection request

Hi - can you please semi-protect my userpage? As I'm an active RC patroller, its been attacked often. Shiva (Visnu) 22:11, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Shiva (Visnu) 23:01, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

you're welcome :-) J.delanoy^gabs_adds 23:36, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for removing the recent vandalism on my talk page. -- Zyxw (talk) 23:10, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

you're welcome :-) J.delanoy^gabs_adds 23:36, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Some help,

Hello, could you please warn the editor Victor9876 against making edits such as this? He won't heed any warnings otherwise. As far as I have been told, users are not allowed to do what this user was doing.— Dædαlus ^Contribs 23:42, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

He's not allowed to remove his own comments? I don't get it. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 23:44, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Not if the page isn't his. He isn't allowed to remove his own comments from the user talk pages of other users.— Dædαlus ^Contribs 23:45, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

(WP:TPS) per what policy? — Aitias // discussion 23:47, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict) If that's a rule, it should be burned with fire. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 23:49, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

WP:USER. Users are allowed to organize their talk page how they see fit. In this case, Carrt81 (talk · contribs) wishes to keep his talk page as a record of everything that has happened. Victor inappropriately threatened to have his own comments removed, except for the fact that there is no policy where he can force such to happen.— Dædαlus ^Contribs 23:52, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Secondly, awhile back I was by another admin that I was not allowed to remove my messages from another's talk page if they didn't wish it to happen.— Dædαlus ^Contribs 23:54, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) Just for the record, Daedalus969 warned Victor9876 about this here, at 01:14 (my time), 12 July 2009. At this time, Victor9876 has made no further edits to User talk:Carrt81, although discussion between Daedalus969 and Victor9876 continued regarding it and escalated. The warning was given. No further edits were made by Victor9876 to that talk page, although WP:AN/I has occurred since then. Daedalus969 then pasted a notice regarding the WP:AN/I thread here, indicating he knew it was being addressed. Regardless, Daedalus969 repeated a warning here, saying "if you do it again, I will report you for vandalism". Again here, "In fact, such acts are that of vandalism, as it falls under the category of section blanking. Do so again and I will report you." Then here, "I am informed of all I need to know. You are not allowed to do the edit noted above, period. I am currently seeking admin assistance regarding this behavior of yours." The back and forth continued and deteriorated. Then Daedalus969 posted a vandalism template warning about the same one instance of removing the talk page posting here, followed by a WP:NPA warning template regarding the intermediate dispute. Victor9876 removed the warnings from his talk page, and Daedalus969 then posted here, saying Victor9876 could remove his warnings from the page, "but just so you know, a warning of a regular user holds just as much power as an admin. If you fail to heed it, you will get blocked." After a couple more posts, Victor9876 removed all the posting from his talk page. Yet again, Daedalus969 came back and made a posting here, saying "Don't blank sections from Cart's talk page anymore, and we should be fine. You've had plenty warning, so if you do it again, I'm reporting you for vandalism." Another editor intervened, noting on Daedalus' talk page that things were on the edge of getting out of control and wanting to stop it before it did. Victor9876 replied on the same page here, saying "Let's move on. Please don't contact me anymore. Thank you!" and made no more posts to User talk:Daedalus969. Daedalus969 came back to User talk:Victor9876 once more, to say "You don't understand policy better than I do. If that were the case, you wouldn't have vandalized that user's talk page by removing that section against policy. Secondly, you have no right to kick me off this page..." No further posts were made on either user talk page, but Daedalus969 then came to this talk page and made the above postings. Essentially, Victor9876 received no less than eight warnings for the one incident, which he did not repeat at all following the first warning, responded to increasingly assertive posts regarding it, was taken to WP:AN/I about it, and then the request by Daedalus969 came here, again requesting intervention, despite the fact that Victor9876 did not repeat the action. This to me is a blatant case of beating a dead horse and borderline contentious WP:POINT violations. I hope this will now stop and everyone go back to business as usual. Wildhartlivie (talk) 05:45, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thx for the usurp alert, I'm now the original. -SpacemanSpiff { ^Calvin _Hobbes 01:12, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Awesome :D J.delanoy^gabs_adds 01:13, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the reversion

I am sorry for the quick undetailed(?) reversion at Lisle High School. I'll be the first to admit it looked fishy, but I found a few sources that confirmed the edit. I wish for all of our sakes more editors would include the refs with their edits, but what can you do? Happy editing! LonelyBeacon (talk) 01:25, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

User:71.97.114.29

It seems that while I was busy figuring out how to warn this person (it was my first time on WP, so it took a while), you went straight ahead with blocking him. If you want to speedy-delete or take other admin action on his talk page, by all means please do so. I'm not sure what's appropriate in this situation on WP. Neat trick with the banner-on-edit, btw. Never seen that before! Wonder if we have that at UESPWiki...I'll have to check. :) --RobinHood70 (talk) 02:12, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Probably {{uw-npa}} or one of its other iterations would be good. Or you can install WP:TW, which has some menus that are much easier to use. I'll just leave his talk page for now, it's not hurting anything. With regard to the edit banner, I don't know exactly what version that was added in, or if it's just a hack, but you can create one for your own talk page by putting whatever you want on Special:MyTalk/Editnotice. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 02:15, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I just checked at UESPWiki and sadly, we don't seem to have it there. I'm a Patroller over there (sort of like an RC/NP patroller here, but more official and voted-in), so there it would've been appropriate...for my account here, it'd just be a "toy" that would serve no real purpose. Oh and as for the user warning, I put a uw-npa4im simply because it seems almost certain that it's a previously-blocked account (User:63.246.174.4‎) by any other name. --RobinHood70 (talk) 02:22, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

That was probably the correct thing to do, but I wasn't in the mood to warn him... :P J.delanoy^gabs_adds 02:29, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

You around?

Can you take a look at Premature ejaculation, before you ask, not a recommendation, just that the same spam link keeps getting added on, I've been reverting it very often, but today there's been too many SPAs adding it back in, and I don't want to cross 3RR and also a page was created for the spam link Promescent. It's one page I could do without on my watchlist! -SpacemanSpiff { ^Calvin _Hobbes 05:56, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

hahahahaaa @ your first sentence! I needed that laugh :D Anyways, I removed the link again. With obvious spam like that, 3RR is not an issue. External links must add encyclopedic value to an article, and a press release is about as far from encyclopedic as you can get. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 06:08, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Heh, I've removed the whole section added by the seeming SPA. Poorly cited and spammy, definitely worthy of removal. Vicenarian ^{(T · C)} 06:11, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, thanks. I'm just about to hit the sack, and I'm tired, so I didn't see that. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 06:14, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I spend way too much time at that page! I accidentally stumbled across it once during RCP and had to spend a good half hour cleaning up and with one edit Twinkle added it to my watchlist; and there're about 10 SPAs that come back and add these links back in. I was going to put the links up on the SPAM board for delisting, but don't know if these would qualify. -SpacemanSpiff { ^Calvin _Hobbes 06:16, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

[Request to Restore Page] BITOSA Bangalore

Hi J,

Please consider undelete the page BITOSA_Bangalore. As you asked me to provide some reliable source for the association to be notable, here are some links: [3] , [4] , [5] , [6] , [7] , [8] and [9]. Hope this should be sufficient to mention whay our association is notable. Kindle consider the case.

Thanks Amitabh

Those aren't really good sources. They seem to be either blogs, or else first-party sources, or notices of upcoming meetings. These are not enough to establish notability. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 13:33, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Regarding the deletion of DD Pugh

Dear Delanoy,

I cannot understand why you deleted the wikipedia entry of DD Pugh.

Late DD Pugh was a politician from Northeastern Indian state of Meghalaya. He belongs to Meghalaya state. He was the second Chief Minister of Meghalaya.

For more information on him, you can check in google.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rivatphil (talk • contribs) 11:21, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=DD_Pugh, the page never existed... J.delanoy^gabs_adds 13:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedian of the Day

Congratulations, J.delanoy! For your kindness to others, your hard work around the wiki, and for being a great user, you have been awarded the "Wikipedian of the Day" award for today, July 13, 2009! Keep up the great work!
Note: You could also receive the "Wikipedian of the Week award for this week!

Happy editing!

Midnight Comet 13:42, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! J.delanoy^gabs_adds 13:47, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Wow! You really deserve it!Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 14:07, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Second that motion, and thanks for undoing the damage to my talk page! Favonian (talk) 14:54, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Thirded Until It Sleeps ^{Wake me} 16:26, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Jewish-American organized crime

Hi, I marked Friends_seated (talk · contribs) as a sockpuppet of Beganlocal (talk · contribs) and blocked him for violating 3RR. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 19:29, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

k J.delanoy^gabs_adds 19:33, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Sarandioti

Hi! Can you please have an eye on User:Sarandioti, to whom you had previously enforced ARBMAC1. He/she is back and he/she is once again edit-warring all around. Thanks in advance.--Yannismarou (talk) 21:39, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

How was I edit warring?? Please elaborate on that, since my edits were 70% accepted. Your problem is that I changed the passage "greek tribe of chaonians" to "greek-speaking tribe of chaonians". The article's source said those exact words "greek-speaking", and curiously you interpreted that as greek-speaking=greek.--Sarandioti (talk) 10:08, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Belated thanks...

....for taking care of minor trouble on my talk page. It's been a couple of days since I logged on or I would've been more prompt with my gratitude. See ya 'round Tiderolls 00:33, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

oops

Heh. Looks like the user is on a roll and we EC'd on the warnings? tedder (talk) 03:01, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. That's odd. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 03:03, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

G---p

Has there ever been any conclusive evidence linking G---p to the people who run 4chan? caknuck _° needs to be running more often 04:38, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Other than him using them to mass-vandalize, I don't know. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 13:10, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Can you take a look at this AfD?

It shouldn't be an AfD, the page needs protection/semi-protection to prevent soapboxing and political propoganda, and I think the AfD needs to be speedy closed, as it's a worthy enough subject (it's a notable place!) I've removed most of the junk text from the page, and given that all the absurd contribs are from IPs, a semi-protection should be fine. --SpacemanSpiff^{Calvin‡Hobbes} 20:39, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Wow.

OK, so # of WP edits is not a great thing to measure, but still... WOW! 275K!?!?! Yikes. :) I see you doing a lot of vandal-fighting, and I appreciate it. Best Wishes and Thank You. :)- sinneed (talk) 21:48, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

hehehe. :-) J.delanoy^gabs_adds 22:00, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Assistance required

I've made a mess-up and need it undoing. I moved East Runton Windmill to New Mill, East Runton because I got it mixed up with East Ruston. Can you move the page back and delete the "New Mill, East Runton" page. Let me know when you've done and I'll then expand the article. Mjroots (talk) 05:49, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Looks like I caught you just after you logged off. I'll ask at WP:RM. Mjroots (talk) 08:04, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I guess they are just slow :P  Done J.delanoy^gabs_adds 13:10, 15 July 2009 (UTC

Blocking

Thank you for indefinitely blocking the user I requested

You are a tribute to all those Wikipedians out there!
Limideen 13:49, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome, and thank you! J.delanoy^gabs_adds 13:53, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

User talk:I am not very happy, mate!

Just a heads up - appears to be requesting an unblock with a pointless reason. Might be best to lock the talk page? Thanks for the swift block by the way! M♠ssing Ace 14:12, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Epirotes

Could you join the discussion[10]?-- Sarandioti (talk) 15:33, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Wow...

I didn't even know a block could be set for this long... UntilItSleeps ^{Public PC} 15:45, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

[11] J.delanoy^gabs_adds 15:51, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Heh. Obviously that's not gonna last, since that's a test account. UntilItSleeps ^{Public PC} 15:56, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Scott Russo

Please explain exactly why you are blanking the Scott Russo talk page. Artw (talk) 18:02, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

WP:BLP. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 18:03, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I don’t see how [WP:BLP]] justifies removing fairly neutral statements from talk pages. Unless you are saying that describing someone as a gay rights activist is a slur? I’ll try not to take that at face value, but it seems somewhat homophobic.

BTW, I’m juyst going to flat out ask this: is User:Grizzlefuz your puppet? Artw (talk) 18:14, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Almost every time someone is described as "gay" or a supporter of gays, it is used as a slur. Good, bad, or ugly, this is a sad fact of life. Hence, any implications of this must be backed up.

With regard to Grizzlefuz, I am an administrator here on Wikipedia. This is a position of trust more than anything else. I will assure you that I do not operate any undeclared sockpuppets. If you do not believe me, you are more than welcome to open a sockpuppet case on me. Be aware, however, that if you do, it may be viewed as disruptive by other users; such allegations against administrators are not taken lightly. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 18:21, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Sarandioti, Pakapshem, and a suspicious IP

Hello, I have recently become involved in a dispute with these two users at Epirotes. Because the topic is contentious, I have opened a discussion on the talkpage. I thought the matter settled when I brought a couple of sources to back what I'm saying, but then, an IP editor popped out of nowhere and promptly undid my edit [12]. This IP has popped up just at the right time in the past [13], whenever I happened to be involved in a dispute with I Pakapshem [14], specifically, on June 8 at Sarande, Gjirokaster and Paramythia. Since he has been warned that he is one step away from an indef block because of his disruptive behavior, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it were him. Do you think this is sufficient to request a checkuser? What should I do? Since this article is contentious, I was wondering if you would be willing to semi-protect the article from IP editors until such disputes have been settled. There is nothing more frustrating than starting a discussion only to be swiftly reverted by an IP. Regards, --Athenean (talk) 18:06, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Athenean's sources were totally unreliable. Check for yourself, before intervening. And now as usual whenever he cant prove his claims he is asking help from admins. Use checkuser, but when Athenean's accusations are proved wrong then block him, since this is the 5-6 time he accuses me without any proof.--Sarandioti (talk) 18:20, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

This is the sixth section titled Sarandioti opened by Athenean accusing me or someone else , and asking checkuser, so please use checkuser on me, i pakapshem and anyone else --Sarandioti (talk) 18:25, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

@ Athenean - I am talking to a checkuser on IRC. He said that the IP is not I Pakapshem or Sarandioti, but that it looks familiar. He's running more checks.

@ Sarandioti - Why would I block someone for voicing a concern? Considering that both you and the IP have had a tendency of following him around, why would he not think that it's you? J.delanoy^gabs_adds 18:29, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

@J. delanoy - Thank you for taking the time to look into this. Here's another one by the the way: [15]. See what I mean? --Athenean (talk) 18:35, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Again false accusations by you Athenean. And you still havent managed to prove why should the additions be removed. Just 2 completely unreliable sources, of which 1 was greek while the other started by saying that there are 280,000 greeks in albania. Ironically, in the 2009 elections in Albania, the greek minority party was voted by ~30,000 people. While, the definition of the Epirote clarifies the issue "every native inhabitant of EPirus, is an Epirote", you want to identify Epirote with Greek Epirote. JDelanoy you are welcome to run as many checkuser tests as you want. --Sarandioti (talk) 19:37, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Where was the second accusation? I don't get it. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 19:42, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

About this ip editor. --Sarandioti (talk) 19:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Whatever. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 19:55, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Agreed.--Sarandioti (talk) 20:10, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

@J. delanoy - Would you be open to semi-protecting the article so as to prevent IP disruption? The discussion is now over as far as I'm concerned, but there is no point in editing the article while there is such disruption from IPs. Thanks, --Athenean (talk) 20:28, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it has risen to that yet, but I'll keep an eye on it. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 20:30, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

The discussion is over and you failed to prove ANYTHING athenean, so stop trying to give that impression. If you don't like the current state of the article, start a new one Greek Epirotes, and there you can add only greek epirotes. But in an article regarding all Epirotes:Albanians, Greeks, Vlachs, you have no right to add only greek epirotes.--Sarandioti (talk) 20:37, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Pardon me, gentlemen, but I'm sure Mr. Delanoy would appreciate you taking this off his talk page at this time. Thanks, Vicenarian ^{(T · C)} 20:38, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I would, but Athenean here cant stop accusing other users, and giving false impressions. I have to clarify issues every time, he does that. --Sarandioti (talk) 20:42, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Sarandioti: Do not continue this argument on my talk page. Athenean has a right to ask me whatever he wants to, and that frankly, what he does here is none of your business. He is not accusing you of anything. I already said that the checkuser returned negative. And even if he was doing something wrong, I think that I am capable of dealing with it by myself. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 20:48, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

@ J. Delanoy, to me here it seems that Athenean is not voicing concerns but making false accusations and assuming bad faith when he can't back up his claims or get his way, by complaining to admins and stirring up trouble for no good reason. --I Pakapshem (talk) 20:54, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

If Athenean had not thought he was correct, he would not have asked me to look at it. If I hadd not thought that there was a possibility that Athenean was correct, I would not have asked a checkuser to look at it. If the checkuser had not thought there was a possibilty that Athenean was correct, he would not have run the check. So right there, we have three people, including two totally uninvolved people, who think there is something fishy going on. And I still think something fishy is going on, even though the checkuser came back inconclusive. So to say that he is stirring up trouble for no good reason is flat-out wrong. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 23:18, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Scott Service

Care to semi while you're there? (Requested at RfPP.) Thanks, 76.230.10.71 (talk) 18:15, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

N/m; done. 76.230.10.71 (talk) 18:26, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

that page on christian violence is racist, I agree that should be deleted, plz dont delete my coment I could not create an account —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.140.178.26 (talk) 20:26, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

IP disruption in Epirotes

Sorry to bother you again, but the IP disruption in that article shows no signs of stopping [16]. --Athenean (talk) 21:55, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't usually agree with ip editors, but this time athenean is the one responsible. What Athenean refers to as disruption, is the following: He added that all Epirotes are greeks, when he saw that he had no reliable sources for the removal of famous Albanian Epirotes. Athenean continues his edit-warring, AND has made 3 reverts, and numerous edits that contain edit-warring. Check it here. [17] --Sarandioti (talk) 22:02, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

The bad faith of this individual is staggering. I have NOT edit-warred, nor have I made 3 reverts. That is nonsense. He follows me around and is wikiharassing me. And now he is defending the IP editor. This needs to stop. --Athenean (talk) 22:10, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

So you have NOT edit-warred or reverted? Let's see [18], [19], [20], [21], [22] . And no I am not wikiharrassing you.--Sarandioti (talk) 22:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh I see, any edit of mine is a revert and constitutes edit-warring according to you. Now that makes a lot of sense.

@ J.delanoy - Now that I remember, a while back a number of Albanian editors organized off-wiki, on MSN, as can be seen here [[23]] (Goole translation here: [24]). Then we have Sarandioti asking Aigest to send in his msn [25] (translation: [26]). Then yesterday, we have User:Aigest adding material on an individual named Cerciz Topulli in Gjirokaster [27] [28], and today, presto, we have Sarandioti posting an image of the same individual in the same article [29]. Aigest has also been following me around, editing articles that he seldom does, such as Epirotes and Gjirokaster (after Sarandioti started edit-warring there). This creates the suspicion that these two, and possibly more, are coordinating off-wiki. The IP, which appears unrelated, could be an anonymous member of this group that only interevenes when summoned on MSN. Then, we also have User:Taulant23 saying here [30] "The IP understands English" (translation: [31]). When asked by Future Perfect to translate what he just wrote [32], Taulant disingenuously refused [33]. The above, and the fact the the IP appears only when I am involved in a dispute with Sarandioti or I Pakapshem is very suspicious indeed. You might want to consult Future Perfect on this, he knows what I'm referring to. We could be dealing with an off-wiki coordinated tag team here. --Athenean (talk) 23:18, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I have no idea what is going on here, so I'll do one thing at a time.

Sarandioti: If you make one more post here about Athenean, I will block you for disruption. He is talking about the damn IPs, not you, so why do you even care? unless you are in league with them? You have not once made a useful comment here, and I do not have to put up with your **** on my own talk page.

Athenean, I will look into it, but at this point I am extremely annoyed at something in real life, so I may wind up not doing it today, since I don't want to do something I will seriously regret. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 23:32, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

That's fine, no WP:DEADLINE. Better to take your time and do things right, like you say. And thanks again for looking into this. --Athenean (talk) 23:36, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I don't know enough about the background of this to really be useful. I'm sorry, but I think you'll need to take this to ANI or something. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 00:24, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

That's fine too, and I understand. If the IP disruption continues, however, would you be willing to semi-protect the page? Best, --Athenean (talk) 00:32, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

It's happening again [34]. One of yesterday's IPs that just so happens to restore all of Sarandioti's (undiscussed) changes. Then Sarandioti magnanimously tells "us" not to edit-war [35] (but does not undo the IP). --Athenean (talk) 21:55, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Yesterday, Sarandioti reverts my edits [36], I restore them [37], then the IP undoes me again [38]. Today, I undo Sarandioti, and the IP resotres Sarandioti. This is uncanny, it's like they're on the same wavelength. There has also been disruption from yet another IP on that article today [39]. Incidentally, it also seems sarandioti has performed at least 3 different reverts on that page today [40] [41] [42], to this version [43]. --Athenean (talk) 22:09, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

How exactly did I revert? I have ADDED text(which was accepted by Facturious eventually as I accepted part of his additions)It is called CONSENSUS. The rest is the usual conspiracy theories. I am getting used to checkuser, so feel free to ask for checkuser AGAIN. --Sarandioti (talk) 22:14, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I will stop commenting here, ask checkuser again if you want Athenean or anything else. AGAIN and AGAIN you will be proved WRONG. --Sarandioti (talk) 22:22, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Sir

I hope I am not interrupting some very productive Huggling by posting this. I appreciate your reversion (diff} of my User page. Thank you. Newportm (talk) 00:20, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

No problem :-) J.delanoy^gabs_adds 00:22, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Inapropriate reversal

Hi, this is actually an inappropriate edit - the external link referred to was published this week by an independent magazine and gives additional information on the site. Please review, and undo your "undo" for Suite101.com -- http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:199.60.221.253&redirect=no —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.60.221.253 (talk) 01:20, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Advice on how to handle suspected vandalism.

I've been a newbie vandalism for a few days now and would like you opinion on how to handle a case like Tamil people. I originally reverted because the same IP kept removing large sections and making potentially contentious changes with no references and no edit summary. The changes s/he is making could very well be good faith by someone not familiar with Wikipedia policies. Am I justified in continuing to revert s/his reverts (which sounds perverted) and then report s/him when he reaches stage 4? Or should I ask for semi-protection for the page? Or just let them stand until for now? The main contentious claim s/he is inserting is referring to Tamils as terrorists without any references which if I understand the policy correctly is a POV no-no. Thanks for any help you can give. --Sophitessa (talk) 02:10, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Since he's removing sourced content, and isn't leaving a reason, even though he clearly knows how (having found the undo button), I'd say just treat him as a normal vandal. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 02:44, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Rollback rights

Hi, I would like to know if you could grant me rollback rights? I'd like to help out in the fight against vandalism, I just realized by coming accross these 2 valdalisms(1) (2), this feature would be useful. Thanks. --TitanOne (talk) 07:01, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Generally, I like to see more vandal-fighting before I give people rollback. Why don't you do a little with the undo feature or Twinkle, and ask again in a few days? J.delanoy^gabs_adds 14:08, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

West Virginia MetroNews

Hey J., I created the above titled page today in my sandbox and moved it to the current page. Problem is, it took the entire history (with all my sandbox messing around) with it. Is there some way to delete the history of my messing around and have just the history from today that really makes a difference? - NeutralHomer • Talk • 14:26, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I think I split it in the right place. Can you check to make sure? J.delanoy^gabs_adds 14:32, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I was watching as you did it. Looks perfect, everything is right where it should be and the history is a mess anymore. Thanks so much :) - NeutralHomer • Talk • 14:34, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Expiries on semi-protections

Please don't forget to set an expiry when semi-protecting user talk pages. Some of these folks may not notice you've protected their page and then they remain protected long after the disruption has ended. –xeno^talk 15:07, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, sorry. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 15:08, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

It's no problem. With as many admin actions as you make, I'm sure its just a slip of the mouse or the mind. =) Just FYI this is tangentially mentioned offsite. –xeno^talk 15:10, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know :) J.delanoy^gabs_adds 15:34, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism & Harrasing

An IP editor[44] is removing our previous consensus on the terms and the merge tag by Andreas. I suspect he is this Spis Ikke Gul Snø. Could you run a checkuser?--Sarandioti (talk) 16:53, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't have checkuser permissions, sorry. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 16:55, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, but could you please rv and warn him, he is massively destroying the article. He has already removed twice the merge tag by Andreas.--Sarandioti (talk) 16:56, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I warned him about WP:3RR. If he reverts again, I will block him. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 17:01, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I guess the warning did not work [45]. This [46] was the last stable version where Andreas added the merge tag, if you can revert to that. --Sarandioti (talk) 17:06, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

At last that user is gone(for good). I just hope he does not return.--Sarandioti (talk) 22:06, 16 July 2009 (UTC)