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Thanks. — Headbomb {^ταλκ_{κοντριβς} – WP Physics} 08:49, 15 March, 2009 (UTC)

yellow in astronomy

Yellow is currently being worked on - can anyone spruce up Yellow#Astronomy nicely? and add any other examples (apart from the obvious sun and G stars) Casliber (talk · contribs)

Category:Lunar images

Category:Lunar images has been nominated for deletion. 76.66.192.144 (talk) 04:17, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

The category isn't empty any more. I did a search (advanced search set for the File namespace, search terms "lunar" and "moon" on separate runs) and found 17 images to add to the category, some which had been removed from it before. There are *many* more images that can be found and added with that search for anyone who's interested - I didn't even try to get them all. Ikluft (talk) 20:02, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Portal

I'm saddened by the fact that this portal is very slow on news and such. To me it feels like there is a very very very small group of people dedicated to keeping it running... I'm not sure if I need to ask this but can I help with anything? (also could there be an article of the week instead of article of the month? I gladly manage it, but I'm not sure if I have the experience.) Marx01 ^{Tell me about it} 05:08, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean by portal? Portal:Astronomy? Ruslik_Zero 07:35, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. I would really like to help it. Do I need permission for that? Marx01 ^{Tell me about it} 02:08, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

You do not need a permission. However, if you want to make major changes, it is better to post them on the talk page for discussion before implementation. Ruslik_Zero 08:56, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Alright just checking! Thank you! Marx01 ^{Tell me about it} 21:30, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

FYI - proposed renaming for Category:Craters hierarchy of 76 impact crater-related categories

FYI - see the CFR renaming discussion. Ikluft (talk) 09:32, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

 Done The renaming succeeded. Thank you to everyone who participated. Ikluft (talk) 23:04, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Astronomy Australia Limited

Astronomy Australia Limited has been prodded for deletion. 76.66.192.144 (talk) 03:51, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Subaru Telescope updated

I revamped and fleshed out the Subaru Telescope article. (I work there, though not in the public info department.) I also noted on the "talk" page for that observatory (and some others on Mauna Kea) that *technically*, you have to have a commercial photography permit from the Hawaii state film office before taking any photos in the Mauna Kea astronomy precinct that you plan to use commercially, or make available for commercial use. (Submitting them to Wikipedia does make them available for commercial use.) Further, if your photos show any observatories, you need permission from the observatories too. I asked our public info officer whether there were any "official" photos that could be made available, but she indicated that she wants to let Wikipedians do their own things (as in, she doesn't care if somebody's so-so vacation snapshots get submitted) rather than having any "authority" involved.

If anyone else in WP:A has further info on Subaru that I've omitted, please update/edit as appropriate.

Since I've worked at other Mauna Kea facilities, I'm also a little curious whether there's a "standard" set of sections for articles about telescopes/observatories. An overview makes sense; a list of instruments makes sense... maybe a list of major discoveries? I may be able to flesh out some more pages.

Dan (talk) 05:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Extragalactic exoplanet

There's a new article, Extragalactic exoplanet. I was wondering about the utility of such an article... since it's a dicdef with a verbose list attached of two planets, neither of which are confirmed, only suspected. It survived a prod deletion request. 76.66.200.21 (talk) 04:48, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Picture of Palitzsch or Delisle?

File:Joseph Nicolas Delisle.jpg. -- Jeandré (talk), 2009-09-03t20:10z

Zodiac templates

While doing some cleanup, I found a malformed template, {{Ecliptical constellations}}, which I fixed some markup errors on (which is how I discovered it), and noticed that it was "split" from {{Zodiac}}. Frankly, I don't see the new template (it was created at the end of August 2009) having any use over the old template {{Zodiac}}. If no one objects, I will send it to WP:TFD for deletion. 76.66.196.139 (talk) 06:56, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

This has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2009 September 12 76.66.196.139 (talk) 05:25, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Missing (highly-cited) physics & astronomy related journals

See WT:PHYS#Missing (highly-cited) physics & astronomy related journals. Headbomb {^ταλκ_{κοντριβς} – WP Physics} 23:58, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Category:Discoverers of extrasolar planets

Should Category:Discoverers of extrasolar planets contain only astronomers, or should it also contain search teams/projects/surveys? Most of the categories in the heirarchy only contain astronomers, but there is one "cousin" category that only contains observatories. The category as it is now currently contains all astronomers except one search program. 76.66.196.139 (talk) 09:18, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

It should contain only people, not organizations, in my opinion. Ruslik_Zero 15:45, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Category suggestion?

How about a Category:locations for astronomy ?

While I was catdifusing/cleaning up Category:Astronomy, I couldn't diffuse Astronomy in Chile or Ridge A, and I noticed Category:Astronomy protected areas of South Africa. So... a new category for locations might be in order, containing these three, and Category:astronomical observatories and Category:Astronomy museums ...

76.66.196.139 (talk) 15:16, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Nicholas U. Mayall

Hello,

I'm requesting peer review on astronomer Nicholas U. Mayall in the hopes of making it a Good Article. Please provide your feedback. Thanks.

WilliamKF (talk) 21:21, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Astronomical coordinates cleanup.

See Wikipedia:Bot requests/Archive 30#Unify astronomical coordinates for more info and give feedback. Headbomb {^ταλκ_{κοντριβς} – WP Physics} 17:50, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

NOTICE. RFC: Changes to Naming policies which may affect WikiProject naming conventions.

Following recent changes by some editors to the Wikipedia:Naming conventions policy page, a Referral For Comment, (RFC) is now being held to debate the removal of the passage specifying that individual WikiProject and other naming conventions are able to make exceptions to the standard policy of using Common Names as the titles of Wikipedia articles.

This WikiProject is being notified since it operates such a specific naming convention. Editors are invited to comment on the proposed change at this location. Xandar 00:51, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

The above "notification" is a grossly biased misrepresentation of the changes under discussion. The old version of the naming conventions policy tried to lay down binding rules; we don't work that way, so it was necessary also to make explicit exceptions. The new version articulates principles, and allows for consensus to establish how they should be applied. Thus there is no longer any need for exceptions. In fact, making exceptions is nonsense, since there are no rules to make exceptions to. These changes are good for specific conventions. Xandar is trying to induce moral panic in those who stand to gain the most from this. Xandar is only opposed to the new version because he thinks the wording, not the general thrust, weakens his position in a dispute unrelated to this RfC. Don't be fooled. Hesperian 02:39, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

No. Don't be fooled. The proposed wording change is shown at the RFC linked in my post above. The removal of the "exceptions" phrase is a very significant change. The policy never stated that it consisted of "rules" before, and it still doesn't. However it remains policy. Simply stating a personal view that titling a section "principles" changes the status of the policy page, is one not even accepted by many editors on Hesperians side. There is already an attempt to use the principle of no exceptions to the "use common name" policy to radically change the Naming conflict page, and one of the proposers of this change has indicated that the guidance on flora is also targetted. The change is in my view an attempt to impose a rigid, top-down policy on naming which ignores what wikipedia editors on the ground find most useful. Xandar 03:01, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Extraterrestrial geographic coordinate templates

{{Moon}} and {{Coor Mars}} have been nominated for deletion at WP:TFD. See Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2009 September 16

76.66.196.139 (talk) 04:50, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

astro

After deleting Category:Pages within the scope of WikiProject Physics (WP Astronomy Banner) as an empty category, TimothyRias wrote a message in my talk page that the template "is used for a legacy feature of the {{astronomy}} template, which allows the astro=yes switch to tag articles which should also have the {{physics}} template. This category lists the articles that use that switch (which should then be tagged and assessed.) If this seems like a roundabout way of doing things, thats because it is. But as long as that option exists on the {{astronomy}} template, this category should exist to record its use."'.

So there are some things:

• This parameter doesn't appear in the manual and it's use is not explained,
• None used this parameter the last 20 days at least.
• I think this parameter totally unnecessary. If an article was to be tagged additionally with another banner then this is what it has to be done. I see no reason that some editors add the parameter and other finish the job.

I wrote the same message some days ago in Template talk:Astronomy and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Physics. I've been addressed that this is the right place to discuss it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:11, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Jupiter mass

User:Serendipodous merged Jupiter mass into the planet Jupiter.

Someone reverted him, but he's still trying to push it through at the Jupiter talk page, complaining that there has always been resistance.

I said, "What reasons can be given, other than Jupiter mass being a stub, for a unit of measurement to be merged into an article about a planet?" - but he still came back at me. I am not going to exhaust myself explaining the simplest of things to the ... He is unable to listen to reason, perhaps weight of numbers will dissuade if not persuade him. HarryAlffa (talk) 18:07, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I would prefer to have a separate article on Jupiter mass; this permits the reader to quickly find out what this mass unit is, without having to wade through the very long article Jupiter, most of which is not relevant to the mass unit. Spacepotato (talk) 18:12, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately you are continue to attack other editors and strongly advise you to stop disruption. Ruslik_Zero 19:28, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Astronomical system of units

User:HarryAlffa has proposed that solar mass , jupiter mass , earth mass , lunar mass all be merged into Astronomical system of units. see Talk:Astronomical system of units.

76.66.196.139 (talk) 06:20, 22 September 2009 (UTC)