Talk:Burundi

Errors?

I've been translating this article into Finnish and I've been struck by a few glaring errors. In the geography-section it said that Burundi is the smallest country in Africa, which certainly is not the case (I already corrected this). In politics, it reads that "As of 2004, the Transitional National Assembly consists of 170 members, with the Front for Democracy in Burundi holding 38% of seats, and 10% of the assembly is controlled by UPRONA. Fifty-two seats are controlled by other parties." This however seems to be completely false and the numbers don't match–according to this site the Assebly only has 118 members and CNDD-FDD is the biggest party. Also, I'm unable to find this information from the source specified. Information in the final chapter ("The Court Supreme (Supreme Court) is Burundi's highest court. There are three Courts of Appeals directly below the Supreme Court. Tribunals of First Instance are used as judicial courts in each of Burundi's provinces as well as 123 local tribunals") also seems to be absent from the specified source.

Then I've been baffled by this: "The Nile is a major river in Burundi. Lake Victoria is also an important water source, which serves as a fork to the Kagera River." How exactly is Lake Victoria an important water source, as Burundi doesn't even have any access to it? (And I don't really understand the sentence either.) Then, in economy, "and according to the World Food Programme, 56.8% of children under age five suffer from chronic malnutrition" is wrong, as the source says that "44 percent of children under five suffer chronic malnutrition".

I've obviously corrected these mistakes (?) in the Finnish version. They make me feel a bit unconfortable, as I'm no longer sure if the text I've been translating is accurate–and this is supposed to be a good article. Do the author(s) have any comments on this, are these just individual mishaps, have the sources changed, are they misunderstandings on my part or is the whole article (also those references that aren't online and that I'm unable to check) poorly referenced? Now it also seems that the history-section got inflated, I wonder if this should be reverted? --Olli (talk) 21:37, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

"Ethnic" origins

The article currently states that:

Archaeological evidence shows that a pygmoid hunter gathering tribe, the Twa, first settled the region in 70,000 B.C.[3] However, approximately 5,000 years ago, the Hutu, a Bantu-speaking people from the mountainous regions of central Africa, immigrated and provided Burundi's first language.[4] The Hutu served as the main farming group in the country.[5] Following the Hutu, the Tutsi tribe settled the region in the late fifteenth century.[6] The Tutsi were descendants of Nilo-Hamitic-speaking people from Ethiopia.[5]

I don't have access to the Eggers or Gates books cited, but this is heavily contested to say the least. Here is an (admittedly pretty imperfect) article on the origins of "Hutu" and "Tutsi". Essentially, there is little evidence to support the theory of Tutsi North East African descent, and it is questionable whether they constitute separate ethnic groups at all, as opposed to social groups. If they do, they are far from hard and fast groupings; it was (is?), for example, possible to become Tutsi during one's lifetime.

Mlleangelique (talk) 23:38, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Whatever happened, it is certainly not true to say that the Hutu (or whoever arrived in 3000 BC) brought "Burundi's first language". I'm assuming that's a slip of the tongue and not deliberate belittling of the previous inhabitants, but I'll remove it anyhow.--Rallette (talk) 11:49, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

External links

I have added GovPubs, a new University/Government source that's far better than earlier ones available. IF you want to, you can delete the Stanford and U of Penn links (they're included in the ODP Guides and Directories subcategory anyway). I have no preference one way or the other, but if you're trying to keep the number of links down, those would be two you could remove. Flatterworld (talk) 05:08, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Genocide?

Why isn't there a section and mention of the two incidences of genocide by the Tutsis against the Hutus on this page? There is a separate page called Burundi genocide, but no section? However, there is a section on the Rwanda page of the genocide against the Tutsi people, though there is also a Rwandan Genocide page separately. It just seems there needs to be a section of genocide on the Burundi page as well and a re-direct to the Burundi genocide page.

There is an entire section concerning the Rwandan Genocide on the Rwanda page, but only this one sentence on the Burundi page: After several more years of genocide against the Hutu, a cease-fire was signed in 2003 between the Tutsi-controlled Burundian government and the largest Hutu rebel group, CNDD-FDD (National Council for the Defense of Democracy-Forces for the Defense of Democracy). However, this is in reference to the time between 2001 and the 2003 ceasefire, not the genocidal incidences which occurred in 1972 and 1993. There is no mention of the 1972 or 1993 incidents on this Burundi page, let alone a section and a re-direct to the Burundi genocide page!

Before I add this section and redirects I wanted to discuss this omission here. Supertheman ^(talk) 07:55, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Burundi

It is in africa. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.207.132.241 (talk) 21:45, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Barrundi fish

Can anyone tell me what is the Barrundi fish simce I could not find it and a friend of mine told me about it

Thanks