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Comment: you should not use plain html links but format them properly per [[WP:CITE]], also, http://static.scribd.com/docs/4bh14golg7n02.pdf is good for a mirror but you should use the JSTOR academic database stable link as your primary: http://www.jstor.org/pss/1173726 --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> talk </font>]]</span></sub> 19:42, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Comment: you should not use plain html links but format them properly per [[WP:CITE]], also, http://static.scribd.com/docs/4bh14golg7n02.pdf is good for a mirror but you should use the JSTOR academic database stable link as your primary: http://www.jstor.org/pss/1173726 --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> talk </font>]]</span></sub> 19:42, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

== Conditions ==

Food power can only be used effectively if certain structural conditions apply:
1. Scarcity: If demand is high and supply is limited the value of a given commodity increases. The price often reflects the potential of the goods as a weapon; as it indicates the importance attached to it.
a. Example: If a consumer is prepared to pay a high price for monetary terms he may also be willing to pay a high price in political concessions.
2. Supply Concentration: Supply should only be in the hands of few producers/ sellers, as this makes possible for limited competition, price fixes, or potentially a monopoly.
3. Demand Dispersion: Allows sellers to play the consumers against each other as well as increase prices or make terms conditional. This favors the use of economic goods [food]as a weapon.
4. Action Independence: In order to ensure affectivity the seller/producer most control his own assets. Either the seller/producer must be able to control the production process, perhaps through governmental control over companies carrying out the production), or he must have access to means on the other dimensions to ensure that he can maintain or extend control over his assets.

The four conditions listed above MUST be simultaneously present in order to turn an economic asset [food] into a political instrument. This does not necessarily mean that the asset will be used whenever the four conditions above are present. Such a decision would be considered only if there were further conditions, for example, the nature of a given conflict and judgment, goals, alternative means, and judgment of utility.

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Educational assignment plan

Basic section overview (possibility of change)

Section 1- Basic overview. (All contribute) Section 2- Definitions (Nikki Zenn) Section 3- History (Dorothy smith) Section 4- Cause (Helena Li) Section 5- Effects (cultural, economic, negative, positive etc.) (Shaq Smith) Section 6- References

    • More sections will most likely be added when we begin research and become aware of more aspects of our topic.

We will all do a portion of the research and then individually each do a section on our own. However, some of the sections may be more involved than others in which case we will split them up within our group.

Dorothy R Smith (talk) 23:00, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good early plan, I'll be looking forward to seeing this plan fleshed out more, your discussion here and progress in the article. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 01:32, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


I will read The Politics of Food in The Nation, by Maria Magaronis and we will also break up and read 'The Politics of Food' by Marianne E. Lien on Googlebooks. We are still looking for more sources as well.

Dorothy R Smith (talk) 20:29, 14 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, there is a food politics page on Wikipedia which we will attempt to contact the creator and invite him to help us in our page.

Dorothy R Smith (talk) 20:38, 14 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am reading excerpts from the book, "The Politics of Food Supply", by Bill Winders. I have also found another article that i will site later. Nikzen (talk) 22:32, 16 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikzen (talkcontribs) 18:44, 16 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Has anyone had any more luck finding good articles? I am still having trouble although i am looking. I am planning to get an entry in on the page by late tonight... hoping i find a good article.

Dorothy R Smith (talk) 19:21, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Look at the articles at Google Scholar, keyword "food power". --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:09, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is the article i used to write the first paragraph under the United States. I am still confused as to how to cite articles on here. so i will figure it out later.

Food as an Instrument of Foreign Policy Robert L. Paarlberg Proceedings of the Academy of Political Science, Vol. 34, No. 3, Food Policy and Farm Programs (198... more Published by: The Academy of Political Science

Dorothy R Smith (talk) 01:42, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above look good, I've added a few more to the article's section on further reading. Robert Paarlberg looks one of the foremost experts on the subject. One of the things you can do is to ask him for advice regarding what you should read. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:53, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Early draft comments

I am seeing only one person editing this article so far. At this point, as indicated in the assignment, you should all be editing the article and integrating your drafts together.

As such, I can hardly review the article, as it is only Shaq's draft. Here are some early comments; let me know ASAP when you have caugh up with our deadlines:

You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:27, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: you should not use plain html links but format them properly per WP:CITE, also, http://static.scribd.com/docs/4bh14golg7n02.pdf is good for a mirror but you should use the JSTOR academic database stable link as your primary: http://www.jstor.org/pss/1173726 --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:42, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Conditions

Food power can only be used effectively if certain structural conditions apply: 1. Scarcity: If demand is high and supply is limited the value of a given commodity increases. The price often reflects the potential of the goods as a weapon; as it indicates the importance attached to it. a. Example: If a consumer is prepared to pay a high price for monetary terms he may also be willing to pay a high price in political concessions. 2. Supply Concentration: Supply should only be in the hands of few producers/ sellers, as this makes possible for limited competition, price fixes, or potentially a monopoly. 3. Demand Dispersion: Allows sellers to play the consumers against each other as well as increase prices or make terms conditional. This favors the use of economic goods [food]as a weapon. 4. Action Independence: In order to ensure affectivity the seller/producer most control his own assets. Either the seller/producer must be able to control the production process, perhaps through governmental control over companies carrying out the production), or he must have access to means on the other dimensions to ensure that he can maintain or extend control over his assets.

The four conditions listed above MUST be simultaneously present in order to turn an economic asset [food] into a political instrument. This does not necessarily mean that the asset will be used whenever the four conditions above are present. Such a decision would be considered only if there were further conditions, for example, the nature of a given conflict and judgment, goals, alternative means, and judgment of utility.