Talk:Acacia sensu lato

Also, a fraternity.

Name change?

My understanding is that only Australian acacias are to be called that from now on. Is that true?

More uses

Several australian species have edible seeds, and several are toxic if eaten in large quantities. It is an ongoing subject of investigation which are which.

Additionally, I understand (but have not yet found evidential sources to this effect) that in ancient times, the gum of the acacia was used to seal and preserve dead flesh as an embalming unguent used in funereal mummification.

For this reason, the acacia has been considered a symbol of immortality (as in Masonic symbolism), and its name was, at least popularly, supposed to derive from α- (not)+ κακος (bad), i.e., it would prevent carrion from going off.

Nuttyskin (talk) 16:52, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Acacia image?

What kind of tree is this?

I'm trying to identify the tree in this picture. I suspect it's an acacia, but I'm not sure. Does anyone have any idea? Thanks! —Amcaja 19:15, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't know about that picture, but someone who knows more about trees should see if we can get some good pictures to use. 156.34.181.176 (talk) 03:19, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Australian Blackwood article has been created

see Australian Blackwood Paul foord 08:43, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Erroneous image?

Helpdesk received an email saying:

"In the article about Acacias, the picture of Acacia melanoxylon is not that species. It appears to be A. verticilata. -Tim Bodley"

If this is true, please correct the image caption. Thank you. --maru (talk) contribs 20:37, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

pronounciation

How does on say Acacia? HighInBC 18:28, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

• • • RE: "Ah-kay-sha". I would know, it's my name. --Akazie 05:35, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Create Disambiguation page?

I suggest the creation of the Acacia disambiguation page. Not only is there the tree, but also Acacia Technologies, Acacia Fraternity, and the novel Acacia: The War With The Mein. Such page would help direct people to the the correct entry. I suggest we rename this page Acacia (tree) and then create the Acacia disambiguation page. --Rick Klaw 17:29, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

So we have an important genus of plants found worldwide, with hundreds of links coming in to this article, vs. three ultra-obscure things with "Acacia" in the name? Leave this article where it is, and add the usual {{otheruses}} to a disambig page. Stan 19:38, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Done --Rick Klaw 00:29, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Used in Barq's Root Beer

Is this what gives it its bite? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.141.136.157 (talk) 02:06, 8 March 2007 (UTC).

I believe you are thinking of sasparilla. 69.2.54.228 (talk) 09:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually, no. 'ACACIA' is listed as the last ingredient on this diet Barq's root beer can I'm holding. (heh heh... original research) 198.110.105.234 (talk) 03:19, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Northern Most Acacia Species

According to the USDA website, the range of Acacia in the U.S. extends to Oregon. The other question is whether Oregon is the highest latitude for Acacia in the world, or just for in the U.S.

WriterHound 14:57, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Add "may" as it occurs in source

Could I suggest the word "may" be added to where it says that chemicals in acacia plants ward of animals and insects? I don't think it is conclusively proven yet.

"These plants contain a variety of chemical compounds that help defend them from consumption by insects and other herbivores such as deer and domestic livestock." -- Chemistry of Acacias from South Texas (Article Reference Note #1).

WriterHound 17:34, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Which ones are African origins...???

Could anyone tell.....??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.62.138.24 (talk) 05:53, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

One way to check is by going here: ILDIS LegumeWeb

WriterHound 14:57, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Lifespan?

Does anybody know how old these trees can get? --Paul Pot (talk) 21:17, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

There is a .pdf file for a footnote in the Acacia salicina article which states:

"The life spans of many of these species are not well documented. Estimates of life spans can be inferred

from anecdotal information. A. farnesiana, A. jennerae, A. pendula and A. stenophylla can live 25-50 years. A. salicina is estimated to live 10-15 years and the life span of A. visco is not known. (M. B. Johnson, personal

communication)."

Since there are about 1350 species of Acacia, there is probably more variation in life spans. If you find any more information regarding this, please let me know and/or please add it to the article. :-)

WriterHound (talk) 17:40, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Mimosaceae vs. Mimosoideae

I just reverted the addition of Mimosaceae as a synonym for Fabaceae in the taxobox. I see that some authorities apparently define a family Mimosaceae that is equivalent to the sub-family Mimosoidea of the Fabaceae family in other systems. Unfortunately, WP simply redirects Mimosaceae to Mimosoideae, which made the taxobox entries confusing. I hope that someone familiar with these taxons can sort this out. -- Donald Albury 10:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

It depends on the classification system you are using. Mimosaceae is not a synonym for Fabaceae - it's an alternative. Someone I know that saw the article thought it was incorrect, so I changed it in an attempt to show both systems. --Surturz (talk) 12:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

We have to pick one system for use in the taxobox (hopefully, the most widely supported one), although all classifications that have at least some support among specialists in the field should be mentioned in the body of the article. Someone who knows the field needs to write an article for Mimosaceae, so that it doesn't just redirect to Mimosoideae. -- Donald Albury 15:30, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Wattle (disambiguation) in hatnote

See the disambiguation linking guideline here, specifically the sentence which begins, "To link to a disambiguation page..." SlackerMom (talk) 18:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I find that section somewhat less than crystal clear, but I won't argue it. -- Donald Albury 22:01, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I agree that it isn't written very clearly, but this is a practice that helps editors who clean up misplaced dab links. It makes deliberate links to dab pages easy to identify. Thanks. SlackerMom (talk) 13:50, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Phytochemistry is getting a bit long

(Half the article or so), and probably at this point should be split off to a subarticle with almost all of its photos, leaving a text summary and perhaps on representative photo behind. What do you think? As the longest subsection of the article in an overlong article, which is the one to start with, no? SBHarris 00:20, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

The article has a "B" rating, which is good, so maybe we should find out how such a change might affect the article rating by asking the people who do the rating.

Is the article really considered long per Wikipedia standards?

WriterHound (talk) 22:51, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Truthfully, by simple KB, no. It's 49 kB which is merely the upper recommended limit (50 kB). What makes it much longer on the reader are the many photos, and they're mostly in the phytochem section. I think length "on page" should count, but doesn't.SBHarris 01:37, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I'd support moving the tables into another article. They seem too detailed (per-species) and technical. eug (talk) 07:59, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

"Most" acacias don't have valuable timber

It is currently stated that most species of acacia provide valuable timber. This is nonsense. A large majority of acacia species are shrubs which don't provide valuable timber, except firewood. Probably only a few dozen species are large enough to have usable timber, and that is not "most" of more than a thousand species.Eregli bob (talk) 00:38, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

If this is the case, then change it, but make sure to add a citation.

WriterHound (talk) 06:20, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

New photo of Acacia ashbyae

Uploaded a new photo for Acacia ashbyae (right). Dcoetzee 04:56, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Please add synonyms, if there are any....

based on the following info

http://jpdb.nihs.go.jp/jp15e/

on Page 1251 --222.64.223.103 (talk) 10:45, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

http://jpdb.nihs.go.jp/jp15e/ --222.64.223.103 (talk) 10:46, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

and German version http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gummi_arabicum --222.64.223.103 (talk) 10:47, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Acacia berlandieri

The chemical listing for this species is wrong. Firstly, all 4 are compleatly different chemicals and each require a huge ammount of chemistry to create. Any chemist will tell you that no known plant could possibly create these together.