Portal talk:Judaism

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Selected Jew

Does anyone care to explain to me why Noam Chomsky -- who isn't even a practicing Jew (and who's said some particularly nasty things about Judaism) -- is the "Selected Jew"? The Christianity portal has St. Paul as the Selected Christian. Why in God's name do we have Chomsky instead of, say, Maimonides?

--Benl47 18:03, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps it's ploy until we play our trump cards — Abraham and Jeshua ben Joseph. -- BrownBean 19:40, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

hahaha I think I'm going to go ahead and change this.

--Benl47 19:48, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Many people will appreciate your move. -- BrownBean 20:29, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Putting the columns together

Hi: Please could someone who is technically savvy take a look at Portal:Israel and see how that portal was edited so that all the "boxes" fit here together on this page rather than pushing each other aside and even off the page. Thank you. IZAK 11:20, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

• Hmm, seems that now it works, maybe it just needs watching... IZAK 11:58, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Template

For anyone who would like to post it on their userpage. Check out {{Template:Torah portion}}. Thanks to the maker(s) of this portal for all the content.

t-bte288-c 21:51, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Question about this portal

For some odd reason, the following was posted at WikiProject Judaism by User:deeptrivia: "Hi all. I hope you know about Portal:Judaism. It is being discussed whether the portal should be deleted because it doesn't satisfy certain requirements, because not much work has been done on it. Please see the discussion here. I request you to please contribute and make the portal survive. Thanks. deeptrivia (talk) 04:15, 6 December 2005 (UTC)" and this was my response: "*deeptrivia: Your "warning" is not well-timed, because a few of us have recently added and updated Portal:Judaism, which is doing great. IZAK 04:32, 6 December 2005 (UTC)" to which deeptrivia then said: "great! deeptrivia (talk) 04:39, 6 December 2005 (UTC)"

Request page

Is there any request or expansion page at the Judaism portal, prject page? Can I make Portal:Judaism/Requested articles, or Portal:Judaism/Requests for expansion?

see also WikiProject talk:Judaism

-- (Sheynhertz) 00:10, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Torah commentary link

I added a link to the Torah portion page, but it doesn't seem to show up on the main portal page. What did I do wrong? Benami 23:45, 1 January 2006 (UTC) Never mind - it's there now. Benami 03:13, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

I find the distinguishing of Chabad from Orthodox Judaism to be offensive. If you want to make different streams within Orthodoxy, that is one thing. To place Chabad outside of Orthodoxy shows a POV bias. 08:49, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Protocols of the Elder of Zion FAC

I nominated Protocols of the Elders of Zion for FAC status -- please chime in. --Goodoldpolonius2 18:56, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Question: how to join

How can I join the portal? elizmr 19:26, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Question: additional Conservative commentaries?

Is it feasible to add links to JTS in addition to UJ in the Torah portion box? Joaquin Murietta 05:41, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Jose

There are tons of Tanaim and Amoraim who share this name, and few if any have articles... help out if you can! --Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 21:32, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

JE citations

I've been working on converting a lot of Jewish Encyclopedia articles to Wikipedia and I've developed what I think is a good citation format for the reference section that incorporates both the JE article itself and the sources for that article. For example:

• Gottheil, Richard and Samuel Krauss. "Onias." Jewish Encyclopedia. Funk and Wagnalls, 1901-1906, which cites to the following ibliography:

• H. P. Chajes, Beiträge zur Nordsemitischen Onomatologie, p. 23, Vienna, 1900 (on the name);
• Herzfeld, Gesch. des Volkes Jisrael, i. 185-189, 201-206;
• Grätz, Gesch. 2d ed., ii. 236;
• Schürer, Gesch. 3d ed., i. 182, 194-196; iii. 97-100;
• Niese, in Hermes, xxxv. 509;
• Wellhausen, I. J. G. 4th ed., p. 248, Berlin, 1901;
• Willrich, Juden und Griechen vor der Makkabäischen Erhebung, pp. 77, 109, Göttingen, 1895;
• A. Büchler, Die Tobiaden und die Oniaden, pp. 166, 240, 275, 353, Vienna, 1899;
• J. P. Mahaffy, The Empire of the Ptolemies, pp. 217, 353, London, 1895;
• Gelzer, Sextus Julius Africanus, ii. 170-176, Leipsic, 1885;
• Weiss, Dor, i. 130 (on the halakic view of the temple of Onias).

My reasoning is that if you're going to take a public domain article wholesale from some source you should identify the sources cited in that article (saying "this article came from JE" when the article is a verbatim repetition of the JE text doesn't seem very helpful).

I'd like to try and get this accepted as a standard, but obviously not without some consensus on the issue. Does anyone have any thoughts on the issue? Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 12:56, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

{{Torah portion}} moved to Portal:Judaism/Weekly Torah portion box

As the heading says, I moved {{Torah portion}} to Portal:Judaism/Weekly Torah portion box. Reasoning:

• The template just transcludes content from Portal:Judaism/Weekly Torah portion.
• The template should not be used in article space for a variety of reasons (it's constantly changing, it's unlikely to be directly relevant, etc). It belongs primarily within this Portal and on user pages.

The name is up for grabs. I haven't snapped links yet, so feel free to move it to a more suitable name if you feel it's necessary. If not, tel me and I'll start fixing the links in preparation for getting rid of the old name. Zetawoof^(ζ) 03:44, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Jewish-American businesspeople category removed

The "Jewish-American businesspeople" category was removed as were other ethnic groupings for business people. Comments welcome at the discussion page for undeletion. Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2006_December_14#Category:Jewish-American_businesspeople_changed_to_Category:American_businesspeople --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 23:40, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Request info

I am working on the purgatory article, which includes the views of different faiths concerning purification of the soul after death and the efficacy of prayers for the dead. It has a section on "Judaism's view", but it is unsourced and I have no idea if the information is reliable or not. If anyone here would like to contribute, or simply point me to resources, that would be most appreciated. Lostcaesar 09:09, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Brandnew: Reichsbund jüdischer Frontsoldaten Byzanz

Jerusalem FAC

Jerusalem is featured article candidate now. Please comment there. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 08:35, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Jewish history in Medina and the Constitution of Medina

i don't quite know how to register[1] this, but i think we should put some focus into placing some "historical medina" perspective into the current articles of Medina and Constitution of Medina. Jaakobou 17:21, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Ten Commandments article

The article makes little mention of the Jewish view except in the Jewish section. The summary should make mention in Hebrew they are called the 10 sayings and actually are made up of 13 commandments. Also the table is extremely misleading as it confuses our counting of the statements with the numbering of commandments. I haven't read of the Jewish section so I am not sure if it isn't problemantic. 203.206.234.139 18:14, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Judaism vs. Jewish history

I'm not sure what's the difference?

Can anyone offer an explanation?

vs.

Yours truly, --Ludvikus 21:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi Ludvikus: You should ask this at WP:JUDAISM. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 07:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Anti-Semitism in 19th century England

Sorry if this is not the correct place to leave this, I could not find your noticeboard. I would be grateful if someone who knows more about these things than I take a look here [2] Where someone is arguing there was no anti-Semitism in 19th century Britain. As I understood and have read so much about the anti-Semitism of the time I believed this to be an accepted fact. I have given references to its existence in the article but I think the editor concerned would prefer to be told by someone more knowledgable than me. Thanks. Giano —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.138.153.38 (talk) 15:09, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

• The place to ask is at WP:JUDAISM. IZAK (talk) 07:26, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Nonsense alien articles

I've been researching certain Torah names on wikipedia, but I've found quite a bit of junk about references to aliens. As most Jews and Christians do not believe the Torah refers to aliens, ever this gives the articles a seriously loopsided content. Examples include: [3]. 213.107.18.62 (talk) 12:44, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

• Take it up at WP:JUDAISM. IZAK (talk) 07:26, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Need Guidance on a Monster I set loose

I've created a monster, unintentionally, and I need some more experienced guidance to straighten it out:

Some time ago I created a comparison Glossary of Christian, Jewish, and Messianic terms. The idea was to show the normative terms, and the Messianic switched terms (Jewish terms with Christian meanings) side by side. In the beginning it also had a disambiguation column to suggest a non-confusing term for Wikipedia editors.

Well, it was a table and each religious POV was clearly distinct.

After the first AfD it lost the disambiguation column. So far, not great, but not horrific either.

After the second AfD it lost the Messianic column – AND the tabular structure.

Just losing the Messianic column would have been… not great, but not horrific.

Now, however, the Jewish and Christian terms are mashed together into a single list: Glossary of Jewish and Christian terms.

I don’t wish any editors ill will here. The problem is an artifact of my initial creation, so I’ll take the blame for it. But now I need help figuring out how to fix it. I’ve tried to communicate this to the other editors, and apparently do not know how to communicate this point:

Having a single Glossary of Jewish and Christian terms together really swallows Judaism up into Christianity. The mish mash becomes Messianic if anything else.

I feel like I’ve created a problem, and I feel responsible. The Glossary really needs to be split into two glossaries, if kept at all this way. Can anyone offer me any suggestions? I'm willing to be told I'm wrong about my concern here.

Thanks.Tim (talk) 16:35, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Judaism??

Can anyone explain me why does this portal include only holydays and nothing else, not even about Judaism itself. Shemaya (talk) 17:41, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Shemaya. Immediately below the template about all the religion portals, there should be an explanation about what is Judaism instead of what is Passover. If no one discusses this or changes the portal page, I will change the portal page myself, even though I am not a member. Idontknow610^TM 20:37, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

BC/BCE

Hello. Sorry to bother you, but is anyone interested in stating their opinions as Jews on the use of BC/AD and BCE/CE for a discussion on the subject here? Thanks -- spin^control 20:18, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

FAC for Temple Sinai (Oakland, California)

Temple Sinai (Oakland, California) is currently a Featured Article Candidate. Comments, suggestions, improvements, welcome. The discussion is here. Jayjg ^(talk) 22:50, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Adding Links

Hello, I am new to Wikipedia and am trying to understand how Wikipedia works, without disrupting anything or stepping on any one’s toes. My revisions on several pages have been removed and I am confused by these edits because I was not trying to self promote with my additions. Rather, I was adding a link to the Jewish Publication Society (JPS), the oldest Jewish publishing company in the United States and the authoritative English translation of the Jewish Bible. JPS has created a product called the Tagged Tanakh, which contains an online version of its most recent Bible translation.

You removed my links to the Tagged Tanakh, but Mechon Mamre, Bible Gateway, and the University of Michigan all have links in similar formats on Wikiperida pages related to the Bible. Please explain to me why these organizations are allowed to post and I am not. Additionally, I find it a little bothersome that Christian versions of the Bible (ie Bible Gateway and University of Michigan) are adding links to Jewish Wikipedia pages such as Torah and the Book of Genesis. Please advise me on the next step that I should take. Thank you, and I Look forward to hearing from you soon. Rrstern25 (talk) 13:52, 28 July 2010 (UTC)