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"The page needs lots of work" that is a drastic understatement. The whole thing should be scrapped and rewritten by someone who knows how to cite. Timothy [[Special:Contributions/72.85.148.226|72.85.148.226]] ([[User talk:72.85.148.226|talk]]) 14:37, 10 August 2010 (UTC) |
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I removed Maurice Ravel from the list of her students. Ravel was 12 years older than Nadia and no teacher-student relationship is mentioned in either the 1980 Grove or the 2002 Grove. She did teach a lot of people though. Please give a source if you think you're sure. Antandrus (talk) 17:07, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
I likewise removed Igor Stravinsky as Nadia's pupil. When he came to Paris for the first time, in 1910, Stravinsky was already a composer, and "Nadia was only one of the many that hailed him as a new figure in the music world." (Leonie Rosenstiel, Nadia Boulanger, a life in music, 1982). carlos10@017.net.il.
Is it just me, or is it really annoying that most of this article is a list of her pupils? Mak (talk) 21:36, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I think this article is pretty biased. One paragraph in particular lists all of these subjective qualities and doesn't even cite a source.
I've removed the "citation needed" from the into. That she was an outstanding teacher at the highest level is beyond question. mallardview (talk) 17:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
More significant ancestry than shown
I remember reading somewhere (either in a music encyclopedia or a biography of Philip Glass) that Nadia was related to Mozart somehow or that she was some link in a chain of composers. Does anyone have any information to reference on this? -- Suso 03:54, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
An interesting note regarding the rivalry between Nadia and her sister Lilli: in the Archie comicbook "Betty and Veronica double digest # 182 Veronica Lodge refers to Betty Cooper as a "blonde Boulanger" in reference to a rivalry between Betty and the Lodge's chef Gaston and I did not understand the reference until I read this wikipedia article and the reference to the rivalry between the sisters.--Griffonclaw —Preceding unsigned comment added by Griffonclaw (talk • contribs) 19:49, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 07:33, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Discography
A quick run down the discs under "Boulanger in an English online classical music store reveals seven CDs devoted to one or both of the sisters. Anyone see any problems with adding them to the Discography? Guddle (talk) 05:42, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- Please add them. Badagnani (talk) 22:23, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
LinkMania
It seems ridiculous to make the words "composer", "conductor", and "music" into links to Wikipedia articles about those very general subjects, within this very specific article. Anyone looking up "Nadia Boulanger" is likely to have at least a vague idea what those words mean, and making them into links just fills the article with irrelevant blue colored text. This is almost as bad as making any date into a link to an article about all the other things that have happened on that date. 70.249.215.141 (talk) 01:31, 6 February 2010 (UTC) Jack O'Flaherty
- Agree, and removed. Ceoil sláinte 13:05, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Original Research
I think the following claim should be removed: "It is probably because of her many American students and her constant promotion of American music, that she is more valued by composers from outside of France than by those from her native country". The sentence in nonsensical (did the author perhaps mean "is more valued by American composers"?) Either way, the claim is not fundamented, and misleading since Nadia is highly valued in France and acknowledged, as far as I can tell, far more often than in the US (e.g. on Radiofrance one can often hear "this piece was composed by [...] who studied under Nadia Boulanger"). 12.197.13.46 (talk) 19:07, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
- I took it out. The page needs lots of work. Ceoil sláinte 00:09, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
"The page needs lots of work" that is a drastic understatement. The whole thing should be scrapped and rewritten by someone who knows how to cite. Timothy 72.85.148.226 (talk) 14:37, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
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