Talk:Keith Urban

There is a discrepancy

There is a discrepancy between the Wiki article and the USA Weekend article that is linked. On Wiki, it says that Keith battled drug and alcohol addiction around the year 2001. However, in the magazine article, it says that he battled just drug addiction around the period of 1998 and cleaned up in 1998. I am a huge KU fan and I have heard and read other accounts of his drug addiction happening in the late 90's. He was cleaned up by the time he started to hit big in 2001. I am editing the article to reflect this.

Even 'reliable' news sources seem to have errors in their information. I just read an article by E!Online that said that Keith did his 1st rehab in the early 90's! He didn't even come to the States until 1992!Kiwi123 22:51, 25 January 2007 (UTC)kiwi123

Grammar

In the first sentence, New Zealand is used as an adjective. It is not an adjective. You should change it to one of the proper adjectives for New Zealanders, for example: "Kiwi". -Grammar Police —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.200.135.196 (talk) 15:12, August 23, 2007 (UTC) Does he still live in america?

The most grievous grammar/syntax error is the first line of the Personal section where it talks about his 8 year relationship. It says that in 1992 he dated someone for 8 years... he dated someone for 8 years in one year? And also, it says they broke up in 2002, meaning they were together at least 9 years. As I know virtually nothing about Keith Urban and whether all these dates are correct, I can't fix this myself. 205.143.204.206 (talk) 21:09, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Instruments

I cleaned up the instruments in the info box so they linked correctly, but I have no idea what either a "papose" or a "poke" are. Nor could I find any information with a web search.

It's spelled "papoose", by the way. TenPoundHammer 22:34, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Change the photo!

That photo should really be changed to a better one. It is more a photo of Katie Couric acting all goofy than it is of Keith, the subject of the article! There are tons of great Keith photos, surely someone can post a better one. If I knew how, I would do it.

I'm going to upload a new one from the Karl Urban page. You should check out the karl Urban page it's got a article about Keith been related to Karl.

Who?

The most commonly asked question in Australia when we hear that Nicole Kidman is dating a fellow aussie named Keith Urban. He is absolutely unknown apart from being Nicole's handbag. Odd, considering Nicole spent the last decade being Tom's handbag. I really think the article should reflect that in his home country, Keith is a total unknown and thought of as a moocher riding the Nicole Kidman wave to fame. 211.30.80.121 09:58, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Is that because country music isn't popular in Australia? Non-country fans in the U.S. and Europe might not know who he is either, but he seems to be doing fine [1]. What you describe is somewhat common for many artists. Bufflo 12:47, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

The man is a Grammy winner, so it's going to take a lot more than one person to convincingly argue that no one in Australia knows who he is. I also highly doubt that the entire nation considers him a "moocher." Sounds like one person's opinion to me. Layla12275 14:03, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

come off it. in U.S. country music, Keith is one of the biggest and most popular artists. he's won a grammy, 2 entertainer of the year awards, 2 video of the year awards (which is fan-voted) and male entertainer of the year. CMT has given him nicknames such as "The King of Country". on August 21, he beat out Garth Brook's Billboard record by having the highes-debuting couuntry single in history. He has made a name for himself.

Keith Urban is a New Zealander not an Australian, living there doesnt mean thats your nationality. (♠Taifarious1♠) 04:15, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

I thought he was Australian. Anyway there are associated pages (eg. for some songs listed) where he is called American. Someone might care to fix those. 58.110.140.91 (talk) 03:05, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Except perhaps if it is the country in which you grew up. The country where you went to school and made friends. The country where you spent the entirety of your formative years and the country where you first developed your art and the country which had a significant influence on your music. Perhaps if it is the country that you refer to as home. Yeah, then that probably does make you an Australian. HTH.Ernest the Sheep (talk) 07:56, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Us New Zealanders haven't heard of the guy, either, and he was born in Whangarei, which is near my home town. Interesting that he's more famous in the US than he is in NZ and Aus, his home countries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.143.76.26 (talk) 11:17, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

• SOUR GRAPE ALERT: To the first person who posted, just because you have an opinion (re: the "moocher" comment) does not mean you are correct. I would like to say that if you took your comments to Keith's wife, Nicole Kidman-URBAN, that she would probably inform you likewise and with much more fevor! In my opinion Keith is a tremendous tallent in his own right and does not deserve to be run down by anyone. No matter where he was born, he is one damn fine Kiwi-Aussie-Adopted American artist. Irthumper (talk) 06:58, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Pop, country, or both?

If KU is not a country musician, and Tim McGraw and Faith Hill are, then what constitutes a country musician? Bufflo 23:57, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Keith Urban is not country and Tim & Faith McGraw are both not country as well they are both pop! - Alakey2010 11:23 am, 05 July 2006

I know, I guess my point was that they're both listed as country artists on Wikipedia. Bufflo 17:14, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Keith Urban being a moocher and latching on to Nicole Kidman? Where have you been? In outer space?And talking about Keith being Nicoles hand bag! Didn't she carry Lenny Kravitz hand bag around for awhile? Keith has won best male country artist TWO YEARS IN A ROW!!Please give me a break! She has talent as an Actress and Keith has a God given talent to sing like an Angel. To play the guitar like I don't know who. But ,I could just set snd listen to his guitar riffs even if he didn't sing. And he sure doesn't hurt the eyes any! I hope thay will be happy! BUT, I hope Nicole doesn't try to hold him back in his career. He has worked his butt off for 10 years to now be top male entertainer 2 years in a row in country music. IT would be VERY sad to see his career go down Hill. LIKE FOR EXAMPLE BRAD PITT FOLLOWING ANGELINA AROUND LIKE A PUPPY. IT LOOKS DISGUSTING! BRAD PITT IS A REAL TURN OFF. Hang in there Keith and hang on to your career while it is HOT! (User Sher NLR)

^^A little sanity would work for some people.

Alakey2010, since preferences are very personal, and something may sound country to one person and pop to another, I think the music industry's categorization and sales charts should be the deciding factor in whether or not KU is a country artist. Bufflo 02:39, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Keith considers himself to be a country artist, but many country artists nowadays are very pop-rockish.

The definition of country music has changed vastly over the past few decades. Many people now consider "Country Music" to refer to the Johnny Cash/Loretta Lynn era, while "Southern Pop" is more accurate for the current genre which has far more cross over appeal than the more traditional country stars did. I believe it is a matter of taste and how the artist defines themselves. Zja2 (talk) 17:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

• Keith is a multi-tallented musical artist/singer/songwriter who doesn't stay inside the box. His sound is a combination of country, rock, pop that he has called "funktry" in the past. Whatever his musical style Keith's fans call it "Aussome!" Irthumper (talk) 07:04, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

KU's age

I HAVE A QUESTION...IS THE BIRTH DATE RIGHT? BECAUSE KEITH URBAN IS REALLY GOING TO BE 40 IN 2007? HE DOES NOT LOOK 38!!!

Yes Alakey2010, KU was born 1967. He was blessed with good genes... Bufflo 23:01, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Well he does have good genes. Thanks Bufflo! 05:01 p.m., 17 August 2006 (CDT)

Why does it have two different birthdates listed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 10thdayoftheweek (talk • contribs) 00:16, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Regarding Keith and Niki Taylor

People Magazine ran an article about Niki Taylor on July 22, 2006, and they stated that Keith and Niki broke up in 2004. You can read the abridged article here: http://people.aol.com/people/article/0,26334,1217423,00.html. People Magazine is much more reliable than the often incorrect contactmusic.com anyways. UTLonghorn

People Magazine sucks!! If you don't like the contactmusic.com article, here are a couple of other articles that mention that the pair broke up in July of 2005!! You can keep referencing that stupid People article but it's wrong:

        1.  http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/taylor%20%20urban%20split
        2.  http://www.famedtrash.com/dumpster/category/celebs/niki_taylor/
        3.  http://people.monstersandcritics.com/printer_1043950.php
        4.  http://people.monstersandcritics.com/printer_1046489.php
        5.  http://fametastic.co.uk/tag/Niki+Taylor
        6.  http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/st/20050809/112359960001.html
        7.  http://www.askmen.com/gossip/nicole-kidman/urban-kidman.html
        8.  http://www.azcentral.com/ent/celeb/articles/0801kidman.html
        9.  http://tv.yahoo.com/news/st/20050809/112359960001p.html

I'm sorry, but People Magazine is probably the most trustworthy gossip source out there. The article is an interview with Niki Taylor, so you're saying that she is lying? Those links are trash, sorry to say. UTLonghorn

canadians banned

There is a e-mail circulating in Canada that Mr. Urban had the canadians leave one of his concerts . Would like to Know if this is true or needs to be disputed. It was the N.D. concert I believe.

Thanks

Unsigned, that's an urban legend (um, no pun intended). [2] --Bufflo 09:44, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I have heard the same thing and can I say how disappointed I am. There are so many Canadian soldiers dying over in Afghanistan supporting the war against Terrorism. I think Mr. Urban should have kept his political opinion to himself. Especially now that he has checked himself into rehab for substance abuse, it just makes Americans look like junkies with hostility towards our brother country. I think he owes everyone an apology, the Canadians and the Americans!!!!

Samantha

Again, it's an urban legend (see above), that is, it's not true. Bufflo 15:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Keith Urban

Yall know who your talking about, right? Keith is the greatest guy in the world. He won so much throughout his career that a few mistakes don't make up anything much. If yall are talking about The Keith Urban, say something POSITIVE. He deserves respect, not a bunch of crap about his mistakes. GIVE HIM A BREAK. If you had any idea what it took to be him, or any singer for that matter, yall would give him something more than just 'Oh yeah, that KU is being a crap head again. Throwing that Canadian out'. Did yall every think that maybe, just maybe, that guy did summin' wrong?? Think about it, then post something nice about the poor guy.

         LOVE YA EVER SO MUCH KEITH!!! KeithUrbansGirl

• while I do agree that Keith is a great guy, this isn't a fan site to gush in.

Keith Urban

It ain't a site to be talking bad about him either. You have to realize that when Keith first came over from Austrailia, he had a very hard time getting into music business. I have read somewhere while looking for news about him that he can recall one night being so high, he thought it might be the end of him. I think that is horrible. I understand he has made mistakes, but that was his own choice. Do you think he wanted the world to know he is in rehab? If he did he would have disclosed where he is. He was caught with Nicole having lunch in Palm Springs. He didn't tell where he was for a reason.

                 KeithUrbansGirl

OK, from what I can see, there wan't anyone bashing him. no one made any derogatory comments about rehab. You're defending things that haven't happened here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.34.95.228 (talk) 23:09, 19 December 2006 (UTC).

Maybe I am, but I love Keith to death, I would literally die if something happened to his career. People taking dirty about him makes me mad. I wish I could stop it, but because I can't, I try and defend him all I can, where and when I can. Like th canadian problem, why is it his fault? It could have been anything, the guy could have been a drunk, he could have been threatening Keith, anything. I know from experiance that GOSSIP travels through email. Someone could have said something that wasn't right, then emailed someone, then it went around the world like that. And about his drug-abuse, I put that in so maybe sombody would see just how hard it started out for him.

Suggestions

You may went to create seperate articles for the "lists", e.g.:

• List of Keith Urban's awards
• List of songs written by Keith Urban
• etc.

--Ashadeofgrey^Talk 20:16, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Stupid Boy

OMG!! I just saw the premier for Stupid Boy. If someone could update his page to tell about his new video, I would be glad to tell all about it. I just don't know how to update. And if anyone could find out about where he is now (in or out of rehab), that would be nice. LOL.. Thanx. LOVE YOU KEITH!!!

That is not the purpose of this article or Wikipedia. The article does link to KU's website, but Wikipedia is not a news service. Bufflo 03:11, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, but it does have to show that he does have a new video!! I came on so I could help and be nice, not to be told what WIKI is. I know what it is. You go on, you type in what you wanna know about, then they give you a page full of facts and details. Possibly to make you smarter. I am quiting wiki now, and I am sorry if I bothered anyone by saying I saw the new video.

Actually, no, it doesn't have to show that he has a new video. It never said it for any other video's he's made. Fan sites will list it, Wiki isn't going to have alist of "on this date, he released___" "on this date, he released____" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.34.95.228 (talk) 23:11, 19 December 2006 (UTC).

Couldn't help but come to see a reply, but did you happen to notice that their was a list of VIDEOS recorded by Keith?? So, I thought I would be nice enough to help update that. And you make me feel like I am an idiot, I ain't. This is where I found the list of videos he has been in. For instance, until using this site, I didn't know it was KU in the shadows of 'MERCURY BLUES' Or I wouldn't have known he was in Kenny Chesney's new 'Live Those Songs'!! }:P

P.S. Would it be to much to ask to add where he got the name for his title? Or does that not BELONG on his page? Or that SARAH BUXTON wrote the 'Stupid Boy' song, and that he had an advance copy of Sarah's Cd, heard 'Stupid Boy', and asked if he could use the song?

You could add those things yourself, if you need more info on how Wikipedia works, here you go. As for the title of the new album and info regarding Stupid Boy, that would probably belong on the album's page and the song's page, respectively. Bufflo 09:26, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

FYI, I don't know how to work wiki, I am afraid I would screw something up. And, did you notice that in my original post I asked if anyone could help me out because I DON'T KNOW HOW TO UPDATE!! I don't know if your trying to or not, but I feel like you are being rude. And I would like it to STOP!!

Editing an article page works just like editing a talk page (like this one), again, here is an excellent place to start learning about Wikipedia. Bufflo 03:05, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Gee, Thanks! But no thanx. I don't need help. I was asking if someone else would mind doing it because I don't want to screw anything up. I tried to update 'Stupid Boys' place on the chart and that to me was hard. If no one will do it for me, then screw the whole idea!

Rehab/Amanda

Since details were inserted regarding events leading to his going to Betty Ford (the rumored dalliance with someone named Amanda Wyatt) and since such items are not really fully substantiated independently, I've added a couple of words that indicate it's a matter of gossip and rumor and not a confirmed fact.24.117.250.51 23:53, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, there's a lot of rumors on in this article, and maybe it should be locked down/protected. Bufflo 21:23, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Rehab/marriage/tour

Here are a few things that I have found recently, Buffalo? Again, I am trying to help, if you don't want to use anything, don't. Keith has finished the last of rehab!! Congrats.. Marriage, rumors going around saying they may not make it. Here is what I found from a sight I was on today, which will not be disclosed, bad place for rumors. "Prediction;This Marriage falls apart before the end of 2007. But Provides Nicole the child she wants." Also found on the sight, 75 percent of American's say that she needs to 'dump' hot aussie and go on. If anyone has the previous cd, 'Love, Pain, and the whole Crazy Thing' flip to the last page in lyric book and read what he has to say. Sad, Sweet, and Love mixed together in one sentence. Keith, Hang on to her, Amanda and Nicki were things of the past. Tour, kicks off in Australia perhaps the end of April, and will be in USA possibly by May.. God Bless You Keith!!! Danielle. P.s. Buffalo, sorry about last time.. I don't like doing things myself...

Birth Name: Urbahn, Urbanski, or Urban

It currently says he was born "Richard Keith Urbanski", which was changed to "Keith Lionel Urban" before he was 2 years old. The IMDB entry says his birth name was "Lionel Keith Urbahn", with no mention of Urbanski. None of the other refs seem to mention Urbanski either. What's the reference for the Urbanski claim? And what about this "Urbahn" with an "h"? JackofOz 04:28, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Maybe the "h" was an accident?? And I haven't seen anything about the "Urbanski" either. I am about 90% sure he was born with the name Keith Lionel Urban, or he would have made reference to it somewhere. Or maybe I don't know him well enough and it is. Keith's Fan, Danielle

Wow!! That is soooooo weird. I never would have known that. I guess I need to work on resaerch some more. ; ) I thought I knew all there was to know about him. Also off the topic, if you have an iPod, I reccomend buying the sessions@aol album from Keith. Or at least just the You'll Think of Me. It has an extra verse in it that he normally only sings in concert. He sings so wonderfully Live, and these songs prove it.

• NOTE: Correct birth name is "Keith Lionel Urbahn", according to Fortunate Son- The unlikely rise of Keith Urban, unauthorized biography penned by Australian author, Jeff Apter. Apter says that apparently Keith dropped the 'h' somewhere between Caboolture, Tamworth and Nashville. Apter also mentions that family members who remained in New Zealand kept the original spelling of Urbahn.(Source: Fortunate Son- The unlikely rise of Keith Urban, chapter one "The Lost H", pg 15). On a side note, no "official" music source that I have ever seen pertaining to Keith Urban (including his own website) has ever mentioned "Richard Keith Urbanski" as being his original birth name. Ask any long-time, hardcore Keith Urban fan and they will verify this. Irthumper (talk) 03:55, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
• Straight from the man himself: http://countrymusic.about.com/library/blkuinterview.htm No mention of the spelling difference on the last name, but if it was done prior to Keith moving to the US then it's likely he didn't view it as all that significant, imo. Irthumper (talk) 07:10, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

• I've just removed the references to Richard Keith Urbanski from the article once again, due to the fact that the only source that mentions that name is imdb.com and imdb is neither reliable nor sufficient proof of this. Since the man himself has confirmed his birth name in multiple interviews to be Keith Lionel Urban, and all his official bios state that, until someone can provide a source for "Richard Keith Urbanski" other than imdb, it should stay in the article as Keith Lionel Urban. SteveJ2006 (talk) 03:53, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Web site controversy

According to The Smoking Gun ( http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0205071urban1.html ), Urban is attempting to force transfer of ownership for a website owned by another individual with the same name. As the site was established by someone with an actual similar name, and the site was established in 1999 (before the singer's American debut), motives and intent for both parties may be open to interpretation. MDonfield 18:54, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Personal Nadir

The second paragraph of the biography describes how after reaching a personal nadir, Keith gave up the habit but never actually mentions what the habit is. There is reference where such a sentence should be that explains a history of drug problems but there was no text that actually describe it. I did a quick scan of hte article and put in a short sentence about Cocaine use but I think someone who reads the article more closely could do better. —mako (talk•contribs) 14:59, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Singles table added

I added a table denoting Keith's singles to date. I'm surprised one wasn't already added to this page. 68.188.191.9 04:50, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Photo

How's about some pictures of him? TenPoundHammer 22:34, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Biography

You might want to mention that KU attended Ashgrove State School (a primary school in Brisbane) and was a budding musician even then. The only thing is that the source of this information is me, as I attended Ashgrove with him and remember his rivalry concerning things music with another student. Anyway for what it's worth.... --Jdcounselling 15:40, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Number ones on Australian charts

Page 30 of Country Weekly, dated December 5, 2005, states that Urban's 1991 album produced four #1's on the ARIA charts. That would mean that all four of the singles from the early 1990s did indeed peak at #1, as had been indicated previously. Please do not remove these peaks. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 23:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Ten Pound Hammer, check the ARIA Charts. Keith Urban has never had a #1 single in Australia. On the page List of number-one singles in Australia during the 1990s (the list of number-ones on the page has been proven to be factual), it does not even mention the name Keith, let alone list him as having four number-one singles from his first album going to number-one. This Country Weekly obviously was false; it's not exactly beyond external sources to lie about these sorts of things; perhaps it meant he had four number-ones on the ARIA Country Singles Chart? I don't know because I'm not interested in country music (I only went onto this page to update it due to Urban's Greatest Hits: 18 Hits recently debuting at #7 on the ARIA Albums Chart). I am promptly removing it, as it's obviously false information, I mean, surely he would have set a record for the time, having four number-one singles from his album peaking at #1 on the ARIA Singles Chart... User:Ss112 00:56, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

On another note, I just read into the article a bit and it reads that he charted four #1 singles on the Country hits (presumably the Country singles chart) in Australia from his first album. You could put this back into the article, but you would have to create a new column for the singles (the title could be AUS Country, and perhaps collect new info on his other singles charting on the chart to prevent it from looking blank), or even re-list the number-ones and provide supplemental explanations on how they were ARIA Country chart number-ones or the like. User:Ss112 01:02, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks ofr the verification, I should have known to check first! The ARIA country charts indeed appear to be what he peaked at #1 on. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 02:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Awards

What is the Kickin' Butt Award? it says he received it in 1976 he would have been 9. I don't see anything cited is this a legit award? I can't find anything about it anywhere else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.19.14.21 (talk) 18:20, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

"Polish descent"

[3] - Until this is properly sourced to WP:RS/WP:V sources this addition of these categories should not be in the article. Cirt (talk) 15:20, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Urban is German surname anyway.

There is another, more blatant discrepancy

According to this entry, this poor man was born in two different places, which lie far far away one from the other...

Reverting background

I just undid revision 313066007 by 76.20.192.240. That revision deleted a large portion of the "Background" section. What had remained began in the middle of the sentence. The revision seemed to be a mistake, so it is now undone. YardsGreen (talk) 04:00, 11 September 2009 (UTC)