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:::::::I think extreme care needs to be taken, while yes I also find it rather disturbing (I've not seen the image but I've had others who have describe it), we have [[WP:BLP]] to follow. [[User:Bidgee|Bidgee]] ([[User talk:Bidgee|talk]]) 09:48, 4 November 2010 (UTC) |
:::::::I think extreme care needs to be taken, while yes I also find it rather disturbing (I've not seen the image but I've had others who have describe it), we have [[WP:BLP]] to follow. [[User:Bidgee|Bidgee]] ([[User talk:Bidgee|talk]]) 09:48, 4 November 2010 (UTC) |
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::::::::Yes, I agree. Something like 'In November 2010 Monaghan apologised after a photo showing him committing a lewd act with an animal at an end of season party was published on [[Twitter]]' is the best that's possible (this is pretty much the wording the ABC used'. It would be best to wait at least a week though to see what, if any, ramifications arise from the incident. [[User:Nick-D|Nick-D]] ([[User talk:Nick-D|talk]]) 09:57, 4 November 2010 (UTC) |
::::::::Yes, I agree. Something like 'In November 2010 Monaghan apologised after a photo showing him committing a lewd act with an animal at an end of season party was published on [[Twitter]]' is the best that's possible (this is pretty much the wording the ABC used'. It would be best to wait at least a week though to see what, if any, ramifications arise from the incident. [[User:Nick-D|Nick-D]] ([[User talk:Nick-D|talk]]) 09:57, 4 November 2010 (UTC) |
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No mention of the [dog fucking} scandal yet?
- No. This is an encyclopedia, not a scandal sheet. The papers are merely reporting rumours at this stage. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 06:03, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
There has been cautious confirmation from his manager - http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/canberra-raiders-player-investigated-after-allegations-of-mad-monday-act-with-a-dog/story-e6frf3ou-1225947828961 Ashman05 (talk) 06:38, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- Much too vague to be confirmation of anything other than some image (of someone, not necessarily Monaghan) exists and an internal investigation is taking place. Still nothing encyclopedic as far as I can see. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 06:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- The statement is clearly an admission that the image is of Monaghan, stating that "One of his teammates has taken a picture of it and it's been passed around." I of course don't suggest adding any sort of full confirmation, but his manager (himself a reliable source) has been quoted in a newsworthy publication admitting that a picture exists, and that "everyone involved is disappointed in what they have done" Ashman05 (talk) 06:45, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- I'm still not prepared to add anything or lift the page protection so you can add something. If you disagree, you will need to find an another administrator willing to make the addition and/or lift the page protection. You might find one at WP:Administrators noticeboard/Incidents. Cheers, Mattinbgn (talk) 06:53, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not fussed either way. The information will be added at some point, its merely a matter of whether it is added now or later on. Certainly not irritated enough to open an incident report Ashman05 (talk) 06:57, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- Voila = http://www.leagueunlimited.com/article.php?newsid=20162 Also being syndicated by many other news sources Ashman05 (talk) 07:36, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- http://news.google.com.au/news/url?sa=t&ct2=au%2F0_0_s_0_0_t&ct3=MAA4AEgAUABgAWoCYXU&usg=AFQjCNGc_CU896YHKWNtEISQMTydvLcONA&cid=8797613439621&ei=A27STNCDBITkkAWoiOybAQ&rt=STORY&vm=STANDARD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heraldsun.com.au%2Fnews%2Fbreaking-news%2Fdisgraced-nrl-star-joel-monaghan-expresses-remorse-over-dog-photo%2Fstory-e6frf7kf-1225947979232Liquidpappe (talk) 08:26, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- And on the ABC: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/11/04/3057534.htm Yuck, but it clearly belongs in the article Nick-D (talk) 09:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- I think extreme care needs to be taken, while yes I also find it rather disturbing (I've not seen the image but I've had others who have describe it), we have WP:BLP to follow. Bidgee (talk) 09:48, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I agree. Something like 'In November 2010 Monaghan apologised after a photo showing him committing a lewd act with an animal at an end of season party was published on Twitter' is the best that's possible (this is pretty much the wording the ABC used'. It would be best to wait at least a week though to see what, if any, ramifications arise from the incident. Nick-D (talk) 09:57, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- I think extreme care needs to be taken, while yes I also find it rather disturbing (I've not seen the image but I've had others who have describe it), we have WP:BLP to follow. Bidgee (talk) 09:48, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- And on the ABC: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/11/04/3057534.htm Yuck, but it clearly belongs in the article Nick-D (talk) 09:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not fussed either way. The information will be added at some point, its merely a matter of whether it is added now or later on. Certainly not irritated enough to open an incident report Ashman05 (talk) 06:57, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- I'm still not prepared to add anything or lift the page protection so you can add something. If you disagree, you will need to find an another administrator willing to make the addition and/or lift the page protection. You might find one at WP:Administrators noticeboard/Incidents. Cheers, Mattinbgn (talk) 06:53, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- The statement is clearly an admission that the image is of Monaghan, stating that "One of his teammates has taken a picture of it and it's been passed around." I of course don't suggest adding any sort of full confirmation, but his manager (himself a reliable source) has been quoted in a newsworthy publication admitting that a picture exists, and that "everyone involved is disappointed in what they have done" Ashman05 (talk) 06:45, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
http://twitpic.com/33e3ay for information purposes.
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