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African Americans were not singly the largest ethnic group but together with West Indian blacks make that figure. per census italians are largest single group <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.72.113.91|72.72.113.91]] ([[User talk:72.72.113.91|talk]]) 18:45, 23 December 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
African Americans were not singly the largest ethnic group but together with West Indian blacks make that figure. per census italians are largest single group <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.72.113.91|72.72.113.91]] ([[User talk:72.72.113.91|talk]]) 18:45, 23 December 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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{{Edit semi-protected}} Under 'Government', the ny.gov/governor/ link shown has been moved to www.governor.ny.gov [[Special:Contributions/75.202.133.18|75.202.133.18]] ([[User talk:75.202.133.18|talk]]) 07:42, 1 January 2011 (UTC) |
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Why is this article titled "New York (state)"?
In the early days of Wikipedia, this article was simply titled "New York", like other U.S. states. Due to the potential confusion with New York City, there have been many debates over the appropriate titles. In July 2017, a widely-supported community consensus was reached to rename this article "New York (state)", and to make "New York" a disambiguation page which allows the reader to pick the article on the state, the city, or a related topic. Other arrangements had been proposed, e.g. calling this "New York State" or "State of New York", or having "New York" redirect to New York City. Before the move, more than 75,000 ambiguous links to "New York" were checked and pointed to the appropriate destination, mostly New York (state), New York City, and occasionally other uses such as New York (magazine). This situation had grown out of 15 years of ambiguity on the meaning of "New York", and is now fully resolved. Historical discussions took place in Oct–Nov 2004, Feb 2005, Feb–Sep 2005, Mar–Aug 2008, Oct–Nov 2010, Aug 2011, Jan 2013 and Jul 2013. In June-July 2016, the article was moved to "New York (state)", but this decision was overturned at move review. Then a more detailed July 2016 move request was closed as no consensus. A subsequent August 2016 RFC reached consensus that the state of New York is not the primary topic for the term "New York", advising further discussions. In October 2016, the status quo outcome of the July discussion was endorsed at move review. Finally, after a drafting debate and a renewed move request, the state article was moved to "New York (state)" on July 19, 2017, and "New York" now holds the disambiguation page. An additional RM was held in Jan 2023 attempting to move the page to "New York State", but was closed unsuccessfully after near-unanimous opposition. Was Manhattan/New York City really bought for a very small amount of currency (be it $24, one string of wampum, etc.)?
No. Charles Gehring, Director of the New Netherland Project, explains this myth in a video (skip ahead to 3:03) by the New York State Museum. In it, he says, "This is one of the biggest myths ... pure fabrication. It says in the records that it was 60 guilders worth of goods. 60 guilders worth of goods would have been a lot of hard goods that the Indians couldn't produce themselves. You couldn't place a price on the ... things that they were unable to make, the things they didn't have the technology for. The $24 figure was attached to the document when it was translated in the 1880s. The translators looked up the rate of exchange at the time and 60 guilders was $24. Nobody has ever even adjusted that for inflation over the years, so you not only have an incorrect rate of exchange, but the whole idea of what 60 guilders would have been worth to the Indians at the time is totally wrong." US$24 in 1880 would be worth $758 today, though Gehring states the rate of exchange was also incorrect.
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Rewrite of New York under way; your help would be appreciated
I'm currently rewriting the New York article at User:UpstateNYer/New York. I planned on doing this myself, in the same way I rewrote Albany, New York, but it would be much faster if some users here could take on a section or two of the article. I'd ask that you stay away from the history section until I finish it, then you can have at it (it will need a good peer reviewer to trim it). The state symbols section is complete, and most of the geography section is done. If you need help finding sources, you might want to start at Bibliography of New York. If you want to help, please see the talk page of the rewrite and indicate your interest there. (Quick tip: since the 2010 census numbers are not out yet for the state level, you might want to hold off on the Demographics section until after those numbers are available.) It would be great if we could get this to FA level in 6 or so months (or less). upstateNYer 18:48, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
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African Americans were not singly the largest ethnic group but together with West Indian blacks make that figure. per census italians are largest single group —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.72.113.91 (talk) 18:45, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
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