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== Article seems biased == |
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- This article seems to be biased somehow and doesn’t talk of issues that might be disadvantageous to Serbs. |
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- The article doesn’t speak correctly of Voivodina and its short status as a Serbian province in Austria-Hungary. (See main article Voivodina.) |
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- The article doesn’t mention a major territory issue: after World War I in 1920, the region of Voivodina was detached from Hungary and was granted by the victorious allied powers to the Kingdom of Serbia in the Treaty of Trianon, and in 1945 it became part of Yugoslavia. |
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- The article should refer in more details to Serbia’s role in the Yugoslav wars. Again, it seems to be biased and it doesn’t mention facts and issues that might be disadvantageous to Serbs. |
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Bloat
Sorry, folks, but this [1] latest series of edits by Alhemym was the drop that spilled the cup. The article was 140 kB and growing, and it started losing respect for the reader and importance of certain stuff. Now we have a section on cuisine, rock music, waterpolo each, with every single item accompanied by picture, some of which include ducks, 10-odd city panoramas, 10-odd forests, 8 meals and so on. Enough is enough, really, and now a lot of the article simply distracts the reader's attention with a too big level of detail. I did re-read it and it is painful to follow at times. For about an optimal article in this regard, see Austria.
I do respect the work of others, but please see Wikipedia:Summary style. There are articles for such details, but it has no place in the main Serbia page. I have a certain impression that those articles are under-cited and under-developed, and that this article gets all the edits.
I do plan to address those issues, and clean up the article, moving the contents to sub-articles, as my time permits. But please try to put yourself into a reader's perspective, and put the right level of detail. No such user (talk) 07:22, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from Excitator, 2 November 2010
In the Culture/Science section, "phycisist" should be "physicist"
Excitator (talk) 08:38, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
border with Albania disputed?!
Currently in the lead is written that "its border with Albania is disputed. (hidden note to see this archived discussion)"
I understand that the issue is not easy, but the current variant is misleading and maybe wrong. It is wrong, because I think that the SFRY-Albania border is properly demarcated, etc. in the pre-1990 times and there are no border disputes there (don't have a source at hand, so it would be good if someone has source showing that - or alternatively showing that there was some dispute over the SFRY-Albania border. Are there any current border disputes between Albania and RoK? If there are then we can assume that they are "continuation" of previous dispute between Albania and SFRY/Serbia).
So, if Kosovo is part of Serbia - then the border with Albania is not disputed - and if Kosovo is an independent state - then there is no border of Serbia with Albania.
I propose: "Serbia borders Bosnia and Herzegovina and Croatia to the west; Hungary to the north; Romania and Bulgaria to the east; to the south 'Kosovo, whose status is disputed'[insert your preferred wikilink here] borders Macedonia, Albania and Montenegro. (additional "and Central Serbia borders only Macedonia and Montenegro" may be added in the 'south section' if someone finds this useful) - or -
"Serbia borders Bosnia and Herzegovina and Croatia to the west; Hungary to the north; Romania and Bulgaria to the east; Macedonia and Montenegro to the south and additionally Albania - trough 'Kosovo, whose status is disputed'[insert your preferred wikilink here]." Alinor (talk) 08:14, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
- If. man with one red shoe 14:27, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
- but I think the proposed change is OK. man with one red shoe 14:28, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
- I was bold and changed the text accordingly. No such user (talk) 08:05, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Srbija je najbolja a ako to Englezi nemisle onda su... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.93.84.16 (talk) 08:44, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- This is the ENGLISH Wiki, anonymous IP - use English here.HammerFilmFan (talk) 18:06, 16 December 2010 (UTC) HammerFilmFan
Kosovo
Sorry but I see not the ((Kosovoref)) template in usage, and the mountains of Sar are not listed as being in kosovo. I would suggest that you clearly mark the disputed areas clearly. I have added this to the wikiproject Kosovo for watching. Please use the same standard of marking that you use on the Kosovo articles. thanks, mike James Michael DuPont (talk) 07:41, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Davis Cup
Serbia won Davis Cup in Dec,2010 for the first time. The same needs to be added in Sports section. 203.99.217.10 (talk) 06:25, 7 December 2010 (UTC)Ritu Bhatia 12/07/2010
"Zero spot" / androids?
Under the "Science" section, the following sentence makes no sense, at least to someone who doesn't already know the topic at hand (i.e., me): "Serbian academics founded “zero spot”, and because of that all androids of the world are able to walk." Delmonte (talk) 06:31, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- Um, Androids???? LOL!HammerFilmFan (talk) 18:07, 16 December 2010 (UTC) HammerFilmFan
Article seems biased
- This article seems to be biased somehow and doesn’t talk of issues that might be disadvantageous to Serbs.
- The article doesn’t speak correctly of Voivodina and its short status as a Serbian province in Austria-Hungary. (See main article Voivodina.)
- The article doesn’t mention a major territory issue: after World War I in 1920, the region of Voivodina was detached from Hungary and was granted by the victorious allied powers to the Kingdom of Serbia in the Treaty of Trianon, and in 1945 it became part of Yugoslavia.
- The article should refer in more details to Serbia’s role in the Yugoslav wars. Again, it seems to be biased and it doesn’t mention facts and issues that might be disadvantageous to Serbs.
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