User talk:MSGJ

Sheryl Crow

Thank you! Aenkiel

Squash page

Sorry, but I don't remember making any edits to the 'Squash (sport)' page. I also checked the recent previous edits, and my IP didn't show up.

Cheers, Yash.

Template:WikiProject Ballet etc.

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Allmusic

Hi Martin, the finish line of this project becomes visible. Could you delete redirects for Template:Allmusicguide and Template:Allmusicguide/doc? Also you could remove Allmusic-part of {{AMG}}. Thanks for your support.--Cactus26 (talk) 09:25, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi!

• I've deleted Template:Allmusicguide/doc.
• I can't delete Template:Allmusicguide because it still has a few transclusions. Once those are removed it could be tagged with {{db-t3}} (or it could just be left as it is not doing any harm).
• Are you sure that there are no uses of {{AMG|music}}?

— Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:38, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

• Allmusicguide: There are only transcluding talk pages left. In dewiki redirects/templates are removed in such cases. The templates doesn't work anymore for this pages cause they were not migrated. Of course the redir may stay, but then it will be certainly be used again in article namespace. Perhaps not harmful, but confusing and bothersome (for future bots).
• {{AMG|music}}: I've checked it a few days ago. I will rerun my bot to check again, currently I've no access, I will post the result tomorrow.

--Cactus26 (talk) 14:18, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

I've checked it, there was one page still using {{AMG|music}} that had to be migrated manually, now it's ok.--Cactus26 (talk) 18:47, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, just realised that I didn't reply to this, despite carrying out your requested change to Template:AMG. Here on en there is no speedy deletion criterion for deleting template redirects, so I not really able to do so. As I mentioned above, you may be able to use {{db-t3}}. Otherwise WP:RFD is the place to go. Regards — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:34, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm not "at home" here so housekeeping is not that important for me. I would have to add {{editprotected}} first, then use {{db-t3}} just to remove a unnecessary redirect? I must admit I can't be bothered. Btw.: There's the first reuse in article namespace. (I know you didn't make the rules so this one is not for you, I'm grateful for your support anyway.)--Cactus26 (talk) 17:06, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Fyi

• User talk:SmackBot. Regards. Wifione _....... ^{Leave a message} 08:44, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Noted, I'll try and look over it and give a response shortly. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:35, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to unblock Smackbot tomorrow unless you have an objection or someone else beats me to it. (Feel free to unblock yourself, of course.) Rd232 ^talk 21:01, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

AN thread concerning SmackBot

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Your comments would be very welcome there.  Sandstein  12:43, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. I have posted some comments there, and will try to follow the discussion, time permitting. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:17, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

talkspace draft

Re this edit: I mentioned it at VPR (Wikipedia:VPR#Help:Talkspace_draft) and also AN. If you have issues with the concept, please discuss at VPR. The concept includes an associated talk page for ease of discussion and keeping discussion clearly associated with the draft; it's assumed that the draft and its talk page will be prominently enough highlighted on the article's main talk page. Rd232 ^talk 22:07, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Commented at Template talk:Talkspace draft. Per BRD you shouldn't really have re-added that without discussion. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:11, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

BRD is an essay - and you ripped the heart out of the template without discussion [in the process breaking the Help:Talkspace draft setup Rd232 ^talk 23:05, 21 December 2010 (UTC)]... And you commented on the template talk page instead of at VPR like I asked. I'll reply there to your comment, but if you want to pursue it, please go to the VPR thread. Rd232 ^talk 22:21, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

BRD is the way in which we operate, and editors who do not follow it are usually edit warring. The thread on VPR did not look very active/established and the template talk page seemed the more natural place to discuss the template. (I haven't seen the AN thread you mention though.) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:33, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive220#Help:Talkspace_draft. I pushed for the VPR thread because hardly anybody is likely to be watching the template! We may as well discuss it here, we'll probably get more input from your TPSs! And, er, that's an idiosyncratic view of BRD/edit warring/editing. Rd232 ^talk 22:50, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Question about WikiProject Television task forces

Hey MSGJ. I saw that you had added various TV-related task forces to the WikiProject Television talk page template. I was wondering, how do I go about requesting that the Episode coverage task force to that template? And, once that is done, how do I set it up so that an assessment box can be placed on the task force page? I think something like that would be useful in determining how much work needs to be done on episode articles, and which ones might need to be deleted or redirected altogether. Thanks! — Hunter Kahn

• (Note, I also left a message asking about this at the WikiProject Television talk page.) — Hunter Kahn 23:47, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

The usual way to do it would be to start a thread at Template talk:WikiProject Television. If no one objects then you can add {{editprotected}} and an administrator (probably me) will come along and make the edit. You may wish to study Template:WPBannerMeta which explains the parameters and syntax. Regards — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:49, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks MSGJ! I've started a thread at the template talk page as you suggested. — Hunter Kahn 06:03, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I replied with parameters for the Arrested Development task force on Template talk:WikiProject Television. Cmcnicoll (talk) 22:16, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Episodes task force

Did I give everything you need at the template talk page? Please let me know, as this is the first time I've gone through this, and am not sure if there is anything else I need to do in order to set up assessments for the task force. — Hunter Kahn 19:06, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Hopefully, my last question...

Hey MSGJ. Thanks for all your help, but I have one last question. I believe I've created all the categories I need to for the Television episode task force, but how do I create an assessment table, like this one? — Hunter Kahn 04:34, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't think you have done it correctly. If you have a look at what I did to Category:FA-Class Television episode articles and make the same change to all of the other categories, then we should be okay. After that, the bot should automatically create an assessment table (possibly at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Television episode. But I am not an expert on that, you should ask User:CBM if it doesn't work after a few days. Of course, you will then need to tag all the relevant articles with |ad=yes, either manually or with the help of a bot such as Xenonot. Let me know how you get on! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:14, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

• I've fixed the classes. Thanks for all the help, Martin! Very much appreciated! — Hunter Kahn 21:26, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Request

I need a quick favour regarding protected templates... Could you please remove the superscript notes and bottom section from the {{North America topic}} and {{Asia topic}}? There was a discussion at WikiProject Countries where it was agreed to remove all extra information.

With the Asian template, there are a total of 3 notes on alternative names. Could you please put this information in parentheses after the corresponding links (i.e., [[Burma|Burma (Myanmar)]]).

Thank you in advance, Nightw 11:54, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay, no problem. Could I just ask you to edit Template:Asia topic/sandbox and Template:North America topic/sandbox with your proposed changes? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:47, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh, cool, I didn't know about these sandboxes. They're ready to go. Nightw 07:21, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay I have now syncronised the live templates. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:19, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Cheers mate! Much appreciated. Nightw 10:07, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Bambu

How could you make a change to a page when use Nahome has provided zero reference from the Bambu trademark office in Madrid or est. date? This is absolutely ludicrous, and makes no sense whatsoever.. There have been multiple publications which list Bambu's est. date 1764 in Spain.. This has been citation on the cite as well.. There is no reason for this to be changed . — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArnaudMS (talk • contribs) 19:37, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

This is already in discussion on the talk page of Bambu. Please continue the conversation there. Nahome (talk) 18:09, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

English Defence League

I think you made the wrong call there. For a start editors are split 50-50 on the material (Snowded, JRPG, FormerIP & Mo Ainm for, Alexandre, Slatersteven, Santamoly & Meco against). Your statement that there is consensus for its removal is in error. There is agreement to look at rewording and/or placement but not to removal. Also the material has been there for a long time which means the default is that it should stand until agreement is reached for change. Finally given that the article was frozen after an edit war (people removing the material without first reaching agreement) you are potentially encouraging behavior that will not help in what is a contentious area. We will now get resistance to change by those who want to remove any material that seems negative to the EDL. My understanding is the mop should not be used to take sides so I would like you to reconsider that decision. Especially as you supporting the position of an editor who so far has refused to take part in the discussion on alternatives--Snowded ^TALK 12:33, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

PS: User TFD should be added to those in favour of the material. its also noteworthy that Slater originally moved the sentence but did not delete it. The edit war was to remove or insert the phrase so in effect you have take one side in the edit war. --Snowded ^TALK 14:59, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Will be taking another look at the issue now. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:52, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

I stand by my decision. I've only read the Opening lines and anti EDL sentiment section, but there is a fairly clear consensus that the sentence either needs removing or altering. In the face of this, it is right to remove the sentence while discussion continues. I didn't count votes, but took into account the weight of the arguments. And I am certainly not taking sides - I have no interest in this article and never, as far as I recall, edited the article previously. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:13, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for taking another look at the matter. However the simple situation remains that there was a brief edit war to insert or delete a phrase while a discussion was taking place about its replacement. The article was the frozen by an admin to allow that discussion to take place. Your intervention then took one side in that edit war and the one that broke WP:BRD so you did make a content determination rather than just managing the process. Its the first time I've seen this happen in several years of editing wikipedia, normally admins avoid content issues like the plague when a dispute is taking place.

Now that you have involved yourself I would ask that you keep an eye on the article to ensure that people move forward to an agreement. My worry is your intervention will result in a refusal to move by one side to this dispute. Having seen no negative comments to my outline solution after a couple of days I have now posted a specific proposal. To be honest its a soul destroying job monitoring far right wing sites and dealing with supporters to prevent these articles becoming political propaganda pieces. All and any support would be appreciated --Snowded ^TALK 05:59, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Aps.jpg

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Rahat Fateh Ali Khan

Hi. regarding my earlier request to revert Rahat Fateh Ali Khan's name to what was originally on wikipedia i.e. without "Nusrat" I am also including more sources, including album cover (which another user had used to give proof of Nusrat) showing that his name is indeed without it.

- Here is a recent article (2011) from Express Tribune which gives his name simply as Rahat Fateh Ali Khan - Rahat Fateh Ali rules Bollywood. Here is a track listing for a Bollywood album (on amazon): Love aaj kal another cd track listing: Soulful Sufi and here is the album cover of his compilation of Rahat The very best of Rahat Fateh Ali Khan released in July 2010!! Rzafar (talk) 18:28, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you for creating this for me. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:14, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

No problem! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:19, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

File:Bchecklist on Google Chrome with red lines.jpg listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Bchecklist on Google Chrome with red lines.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. SchuminWeb (Talk) 15:04, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Problems

I can imagine your hesitation at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Malaysia_national_football_team however please also note related item http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2010_AFF_Suzuki_Cup&action=history - and the general tenor of the edit war suggests this will not go away - cheers SatuSuro 12:57, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

History merge

Hello! Since you've history merged Template talk:SockBlock/Sockblock archive, could you delete my redirect revision in that page (which is now a misleading edit because of the merge)? Thanks, HeyMid (contribs) 11:49, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

 Done, although I don't really think this was necessary. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:58, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with you – that deletion wasn't necessary. However, I thought you didn't have to delete the entire page history when not deleting all revisions. HeyMid (contribs) 15:03, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

There are two different methods to do it. WP:REVDEL is the other one - this is for problematic revisions and leaves the entry visible but crossed out. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:04, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Template:EasternWashingtonWikiProject listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Template:EasternWashingtonWikiProject. Since you had some involvement with the Template:EasternWashingtonWikiProject redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Admrboltz (talk) 23:43, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Convertx is 12,000x smaller rewrite of Convert

19-Jan-2011: This is just a reminder that Template:Convertx (with suffix "-x"), begun in March 2010, is the essence of rewriting {Convert} to be 12,000 times smaller, omitting the many, many, many thousands of subtemplates, {Convert/LoffAoffDsSoff}, etc. Although Convert currently lists "3,422" subtemplates, that number is a small fraction of the subtemplates actually needed to provide all possible promised features. Multiplying the options: lk:4, abbr:7, disp:9, adj:4, Imp/US:4, range:3, y:2 gives a total: 4x7x9x4x4x3x2 = 24,192 subtemplates needed (plus other special cases). That is the main reason why Convert had to be rewritten: people are always asking to create another of the missing 21,000 possible subtemplates. Never mind the hundreds of outdated subtemplates, among the current 3,422. Due to the complexity of Convert, as a nightmare for part-time volunteer work, it has taken these past 2 years to maintain Convert, while also planning the rewrite as {Convertx}. There are many details still to be rewritten, but Convertx also acts as a testbed to help redesign Convert, partially, while preparing to replace it for most users. Meanwhile, {Convertx}, for some limited cases, is ready for use as a proof of concept that similar conversions can be run without "24,000 subtemplates" being created:

• {{Convertx|2500|km|mi}}           → Template:Convertx
• {{Convertx|2500|km|mi|comma=out}} → Template:Convertx
• {{Convertx|2500|km|mi|comma=in}}   → Template:Convertx

Your belief that Convert could be rewritten as a much smaller system, is reality now. -Wikid77 (talk) 14:13, 19 January 2011 (UTC)