Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 February 27

February 27

Category:St. Anthony's College (Katugasthota) Alumni

Propose renaming Category:St. Anthony's College (Katugasthota) Alumni to Category:Alumni of St. Anthony’s College, Kandy

Nominator's rationale: Rename There are two issues here. First, Category:Alumni of foo is the standard in the parent category Category:Alumni by university or college in Sri Lanka. Second, the corresponding article's name is St. Anthony’s College, Kandy. Pichpich (talk) 18:37, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:Presidents of the United States by century

Category:Presidents of the United States by century - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: This category exists simply to contain categories of presidents by century, but I feel this is unnecessary as all presidents are contained in Category:Presidents of the United States. Why do we need to categorize them by century? Muboshgu (talk) 23:49, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

• Delete. I'm not generally in favour of "by century" categories in any case. They're pretty pointless, since many people overlap centuries. But in this case there just aren't enough articles to make it at all worthwhile. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:59, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
• You should add the subcategories to this; you can't just tag the parent container if you want to delete the whole structure. postdlf (talk) 22:23, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
• Comment. Discussed awhile ago. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:45, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Dana boomer (talk) 16:09, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:East Brunswick, New Jersey

Propose renaming Category:East Brunswick, New Jersey to Category:East Brunswick Township, New Jersey

Nominator's rationale: Rename. To match title of parent article East Brunswick Township, New Jersey. Alansohn (talk) 22:52, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose. I think there needs to be as case made for this being the common name. I looked through the list of townships and which some of them commonly have township attached when referring to them some do not including East Brunswick. So unless the case can be made that township is in common usage, the category should not be moved and the article moved instead. It looks like someone tried to move the article but there was an error and the move was reverted. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:39, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
  • I offer no opinion here on whether the title of the article should include the word "Township" or not, which is a discussion that should be addressed at the talk page for the article in question. Concerns regarding "common usage" have no relevance to anything other than a discussion of a page move. Disregarding a brief period of a few minutes when the article was improperly renamed "EastBrunswick" (without a space, a comma or a state), the article has existed stably for more than eight years as "East Brunswick Township, New Jersey" since it was created in 2002. The issue at hand is if the title of the article and the category should match, and there appears to be no justification to perpetuate this discrepancy. Keeping the two different only creates needless confusion. Alansohn (talk) 04:06, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Dana boomer (talk) 16:09, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Rename per nom. It's usually a good idea for the category name to match the article name. For now I think this should be named, and if the article name ever changes based on WP:COMMONNAME arguments, then the category could be moved back. But it doesn't look like there are any impending efforts to move the article, so rename the category per nom. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 21:39, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:Residents of Northamptonshire

Propose merging Category:Residents of Northamptonshire to Category:People from Northamptonshire

Nominator's rationale: Merge to the category using the standard Category:People from foo. Pichpich (talk) 14:43, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose People can be resident of somewhere without coming from there - in this case cf Tito Benady is from Gibraltar but is resident in the county. Brookie :) - he's in the building somewhere! ^(Whisper...) 09:12, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
• Delete. "People from Foo" refers to people who were born or brought up in a place, not people who just live there. "Residents of Foo" seems fairly irrelevant, since people often move around. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:44, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• Merge – we have been using the standard 'from' in this wider sense for years. Occuli (talk) 15:57, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:Rugby Clubs in KwaZulu-Natal

Propose renaming Category:Rugby Clubs in KwaZulu-Natal to Category:Rugby teams in KwaZulu-Natal

Nominator's rationale: Rename to fix the capitalization issue (at least) and use "teams" to match parent category and similar categories in other countries. Pichpich (talk) 14:41, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:Films from Georgia (country)

Propose renaming Category:Films from Georgia (country) to Category:Georgian films

Nominator's rationale: This has just been moved from the latter to the former as a speedy request. I don't think this should have been done. All of the other countries in Category:Films by country are formatted as "Nation films". There shouldn't really be any confusion over Georgia the country and the US state in this case, as we don't categorize American films by state. A simple note on the category page to say that it's for the country would avoid any issue, and commonsense should apply in this case. Lugnuts (talk) 09:46, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose it does not matter if we do not categorize American films by state, as it would mean that any possible editor would never categorize films by state, were this move to occur, instead of having to always patrol it to remove articles some person who wants to categorize films by US state would fill into it. 65.93.15.125 (talk) 05:15, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Category:Docudrama plays

Propose renaming Category:Docudrama plays to Category:Documentary plays

Nominator's rationale: Shall we rename to match parent article Documentary theatre? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 04:31, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Hum, but we also have Docudrama, which covers the stage too, & could be an alternate MA. Would it not need to be Category:Documentary theatre plays? Sounds odd as it is. Johnbod (talk) 02:25, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:Medpedia Editors

Category:Medpedia Editors - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: Delete I first thought that this was a user category and I thought it made some (mild) sense. But this is intended to be a category period and that's not justified. Medpedia is a fine project but few if any people are primarily recognized as Medpedia editors so the classification is not sufficiently meaningful. (not a defining characteristic if people want a keyword.) Pichpich (talk) 03:57, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:List of Maithili writers

Propose merging Category:List of Maithili writers to Category:Maithili writers

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge The category doesn't contain lists: it contains writers (in this case, just one writer but it's still a valid choice of category). Pichpich (talk) 03:51, 27 February 2011 (UTC) Pichpich (talk) 03:51, 27 February 2011 (UTC)