Talk:Chicago Spire

Deletion of infobox, copyrighted image

For your information, there recently was a bit of a disagreement on what is considered fair use. An administrator speedily deleted the infobox image for this article following a previous discussion to keep it. After a discussion on the administrator's talk page who deleted the article, a discussion at ANI, and a deletion review, the file was restored. It seems to be the consensus of editors and admins that copyrighted images of unbuilt buildings are fair use, especially if permission was obtained from the copyright holder. It should be noted, however, that permission alone will get an image deleted. It must be labeled with an appropriate copyright tag and have a sufficient fair use rationale. Also, once measurable progress has been made on the building a free replacement can be made and this image should be deleted immediately. In other words, if/when this structure starts rising and we can take a photo of it, we need to replace and delete this image. DR04 (talk) 03:44, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Additional maintenance

I'll be performing a decent amount of edits to this article over the next 24 hours. One of my primary concerns was that the current financial problems did not a get a new section. Instead an editor simply moved the initial financial problem section down and added to it. That works fine for now, but the prose is not in chronological order as you would expect from such a section. I'll be adding additional information on the current financial problems as well as the construction delays and restoring chronological flow for this section. I'll also include the new developments of Kelleher trying to obtain union financing. I'll try to expand the construction sections a bit as well. Feel free to include other updates during this and any other time as well! DR04 (talk) 05:14, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Did they get the loan?

Just a note, one source [1] is currently saying they got the $170m - but considering the coverage by local media on this project and their lack of articles confirming this, I think the Artinfo reporter might have jumped the gun. Let's wait until we get another confirmation before updating the article. DR04 (talk) 17:37, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Developer got evicted from their own office

• http://chicago.curbed.com/archives/2010/11/17/facing-eviction-suit-spire-developer-leaves-loop-offices.php

Moved out of 111 South Wacker Drive, unpaid rent. Daniel Christensen (talk) 06:36, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

A lot of good stuff here that should be worked in: http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20101112-714149.html

Searching it through google shows the whole story and not the log in thing: http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20101112-714149.html

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS294&=&q=chicago%20spire&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=nws:1&source=og&sa=N&tab=wn

Never Built

The infobox says this building was never built; is that true? Apple & TWC Fan (talk) 01:23, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

This is true. MelbourneStar1 (talk) 00:40, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

The circular foundation was prepared in 2008, but no above-ground work was done and there has been no work on the site since late that year. Sepreece (talk) 01:24, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Chicago Spire and its short future -

a few references:

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Wow the Chicago Spire really does have a 'fantastic' future ahead of it. MelbourneStar1 (talk) 00:39, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to Chicago. The entire state is either bankrupt or something else ending in "rupt". Frietjes (talk) 00:45, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

lol I wouldnt say the whole city -- just this cancelled / dead project :) MelbourneStar1 (talk) 00:46, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

What's the basis for saying specifically that it was canceled in early 2010? The foreclosure didn't start until late-2010. What event are you taking as signaling canceling it was canceled? Sepreece (talk) 01:48, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

take a read of the articles look at their dates :) MelbourneStar1 (talk) 02:27, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Current status?

Project cancelled - does this mean that there is no hope of ever restarting it? If so, what next? Can the existing work be salvaged and used in another project, or will it need to be demolished? What are the plans for that piece of property?74.100.60.53 (talk)