Talk:Kshatriya

Hi Every one Dravidas are mentioned as Kshatriyas the same is quoted in the article as well and hence the entire 97% plus people should be Kshatriyas?, there is no Kshatriya or Vaishya castes like in North India forming 30-50% of the population. Even some the Bramhin castes of south India are Dravidian looking and culturally identical with the rest. Though I completely agree that the Raju community is quite affluent and land owning as well as are not covered under any Reservations policy they are by looks and physical characteristic's and customs as black skinned as their Dravidian brothers. Look at the Rajus's of Satyam or Ram Gopal Verma they dont look any similar to the Caucasian featured Rajputs or Jats having origins in Central Asia. Also it is a Known fact that even in the History books the Andhra ruling dynasties were Reddy's, Kakatiya's, Velamas , Nizams etc and there was not even ONE RAJU FAMILY THAT EVER RULED ANDHRA PRADESH. REQUEST ANY ONE TO PROVIDE ONE GENUINE RAJU FAMILY THAT WAS A RULING DYNASTY IN ANDHRA PRADESH HISTORY. PLEASE DONT QUOTE ANY FICTITIOUS AND UNREFERENCED IDEAS OF RAJUS RULING ANDHRA PRADESH.(Agreed Alluri Sita Rama Raju was a freedom fighter - my deep respects, but not a heriditary ruling dynasty?) no Doubt 95% and above people are covered under reservation policy either SC or ST or OBC, BC etc..., —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.130.223 (talk) 18:54, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Markandeya Purana says Purshuram killed all Kshatriyas except Abhiras.

Markandeya Purana says Purshuram killed all Kshatriyas except Abhiras. Then what are all these castes mentioned here?

Ahirs/Yadavs are real Kshatriyas

Ahirs are doodhwalas, No, they were not thee kshatriyas, Why they are ashamed of saying themselves Ahir. The tribes and castes of Bombay, Volume 1 By Reginald Edward Enthoven

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=FoT6gPrbTp8C&pg=PA134&dq=yadavs+are+chandravanshi+kshatriyas&hl=en&ei=JA-sTaeLLofIrQfuzYSoCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.co.in/books?ei=6wJ_TbmGMMyxrAeUudmtBw&ct=result&id=zxtuAAAAMAAJ&dq=gujjars+are+ahirs&q=ahirs

Also according to The Vayu purana the colonies of Kshatriyas are Vahlikas, Vadha- dhanas, Abhiras, Kalatoyakas, Aparitas, Sudras, Pahlavas.

http://books.google.co.in/books?ei=4yOUTcUPibSsB7Pm9P8L&ct=result&id=XFUIAQAAIAAJ&dq=abhira+afghanistan&q=The+colonies+of+Ksattriyas3+

The Vayu purana, Part 1-page-296

Edit request from 117.202.129.241, 4 April 2011

Agnivanshi includes Vanniyar kula Kshatriya.

117.202.129.241 (talk) 23:32, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. I don't see any mention of this on the Vanniyar page, either. Qwyrxian (talk) 07:16, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 97.80.77.89, 14 April 2011

The history of caste system in India has been changed from time to time with the prosporous group always in the top. The division of work later changed to caste system. Through out the history the kshatriyas (Jats, Rajputs, khandayats) were the higher caste. They divided the responsibilities to different group in society, slowly which changed into class system and then caste system. After Arabs/Muslim invasion of India the kshytriyas slowly started losing their kingdoms and their power. After losing power most of them started getting poor and concentrated on cultivation as the other option. At this time one of the poorest and downtrodden class continued to fight against the invadors through their writing. They are the so called brahmins. Except kshytriyas all others were considered as the lowest class before Arabs invasion. After Muslim rule over India the britishers ruled over India. This was the time when Brahmins got more importace as Britisher gave importance on education. For last three hundred years those so called Brahmins have depicted them in their writings as the higher caste. Many of the Brahmins and Kshytriyas are also among dalits as they didn't give importance on education. The history of three hundred years of Brahmins dominance is again changing and the caste system is changing to class system i.e. rich and poor.It is happening because of education among all group of people. However, some tradition still existing as it was in history; feeding the poor as beleived in hinduism. Through out the history the priests were fed as one of the poorest and downtrodden group. Now even after becoming a prosperous group because of importance of education, the people invite Brahmins and feed them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.80.77.89 (talk) 03:37, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

kshatriyas

hi

  there are so many castes in india who claim to be kshatriyas but there are very few castes who still today write kshatriya in with their caste or sub caste.can i know if these people are the origional kshatriyas  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.169.80.92 (talk) 14:10, 28 April 2011 (UTC) 

• A/C to indian history[Ancient indian history by kc shrivastava]Aryas devided them into 4 varnas[brahmin,kshatriyas,vaish,sudras].there are so many theories about it.kshatriys were a farmer and keep pet animals........................] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.56.49.86 (talk) 21:01, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

New section about castes which claim Ksatriya?

References such as this one[1] and many others have some extremely interesting discussion about various castes (Kurmi, Kayastha, etc) which have claimed Kshatriya status in the late 19th and early 20th century, despite being generally classified as Shudra. Anyone also think this would be some great material to add? MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:22, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

I think this is a better source. Can be downloaded and read here.