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List of Godzilla films?

Is missing. Anyone include date and film list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericg33 (talk • contribs) 01:55, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

The bottom of the page contains the list of Godzilla movies and years. Having it twice would be redundant. Also, the Godzilla (franchise) page has the list. ScottishPig (talk) 18:26, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 16:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

The name Gojira.

The story of Small Textthe name Goira coming from the nickname of a Toho employee was also published as part of the Official Godzilla Compendium (by J.D. Lees and Marc Cerasini, published by Random House in 1998) at the bottom of page 12. It is written as though it were fact, however, the employee is not identified. Excerpt below:

"Finding a title was still a problem. The tongue-twisting name Kaitei Niman Mairu Kara Kita Dai Kaiju (The Big Monster from 20,000 Miles Underneath the Sea) was attached to it, but Tanaka knew that was a non-starter.
One day a friend told Tanaka about an overweight, lumbering press agent working in Toho's publicity department. The man was so immense that some of the staff nicknamed him "Gojira"--a word formed by combining the Japanese words for gorilla (gorira) and whale (kujira). Tanaka loved the name, and after considering it for a few days, he decided to use it for his monster.
Thus, Gojira was born."
Hypershell (talk) 21:54, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Trimming the fat

The "Incarnations" section is needlessly bloated and simply reiterates the plot of each and every Godzilla movie instead of discussing the character.

I reduced the Heisei section first as it was the longest. I'd really appreciate some help in trimming the fat off the rest of this section as well. As it stands, Godzilla's article is very, very "In-Universe", very TL;DR and would probably bore anybody but a hardcore Godzilla fan to tears. Let's see if we can give it some Real World context so that the Average Joe who happens to look up "Godzilla" won't be instantly turned off by the length and make this article actually useful.

And remember, citations are a wikipedian's best friend :D

K00bine (talk) 09:33, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Major Rewrite

I'm gonna do a rewrite of the entire article. The article is too in-universe and needs a major cleanup. If anyone has any complaints or objections, please respond. — Enter Movie (talk) 00:30, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Is there any way you can find to include a list of the Godzilla movies in your rewrite? maybe include how many there are and titles, years, etc.? or maybe that should be a different page? i don't think it needs to be massively in depth, i just think it needs to be there. or if not and we want to keep this focused on the character itself, maybe there should be a page that focuses on the original movie? Killemall22 (talk) 04:05, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Can we respond with praise and suggestions? ;) I like the sleeker format, but agree that there needs to be a more extensive film section. He is a major movie star, after all!! Pairadox (talk) 04:17, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

sorry~! i forgot to say thank you for working on this and doing such it good job, it was a very long article. and yes it is just a suggestion. thank you again!Killemall22 (talk) 04:22, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm working on the film section, but it's not gonna be in-depth or else it would be in-universe. You guys can help if you want, but be sure to make it short. Here are examples of good character pages: Michael Myers (Halloween) and Jason Voorhees. — Enter Movie (talk) 04:41, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I like that the article has been reduced in size. However, I think it *does* need a bit more "in-universe" content, and to describe Godzilla as a character; his role in the films, his special abilities, and so on, just summarised and made blatantly clear that he's fictional. The brief summary of his powers that was in the previous article would be a nice re-addition, I think, and maybe a short section explaining that he has had multiple incarnations over the years, but not going into gratuitous detail about them.

K00bine (talk) 18:24, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay. It can be in-universe, but the majority of the article can't be in-universe. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction). — Enter Movie (talk) 22:43, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I hope your edits stick. Back when I tried this it just got out of hand and people just started to reedit everything back in. DyslexicDan (talk) 18:33, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

This article needs improvement.

Seriously, its really important, we need to get it to Good Article status atleast, people contribute! I want to see it become featured! JTBX (talk) 01:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Uhhh... you know you're making the article in-universe? The "in popular culture" section doesn't need to be in the article 'cause it already has it's own page, there's already a Godzilla video games article, and the "incarnations" section is the one that makes this article mainly in-universe. See Michael Myers (Halloween), Jason Voorhees, and Predator (alien); they are really good examples on how character pages should be. I'm currently trying to work on the article. — Enter Movie (talk) 17:01, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

But they deserve relevant mentions. JTBX (talk) 22:00, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a fan site. Those inclusions did not meet Wikipedia's quality standards and manual of style. If you want it to be a Good Article, then you can't have it in-universe. -- 151.213.187.251 (talk) 05:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps we should lend the discussion of Godzilla's incarnations to its own article, and include a summary in the main Godzilla article explaining that the character has been tweaked and reinvented over the years?

K00bine (talk) 16:44, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

The incarnations can possibly fit into the "concept and creation" section if it's apporpriate, but I don't know. — Enter Movie (talk) 02:39, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Giving different Godzilla versions its own page seems too long, just average out the appearance over the years instead of movie-to-movie.

godzilla898 (talk) 20:10, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism

There are numerous cases of vandalism being reverted on this article, more than a few of them bye a certain Smokeknight09 and other IP adresses which I suspect might be the same person. See the article edit history for more detials. Is there anything we can do about this? Maybe block the user? I mean I don't think locking or semi-locking the page would be good seeing as how this page is under going good construction. Yoshi thomas (talk) 06:25, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Putting it in semi-lock seems good to me. — Enter Movie (talk) 02:39, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

If you're talking about me, I only did the SSBB joke once, so the other stuff wasn't me. I am NOT this SmokeKnight guy, trust me. I'm not doing anymore jokes, but I AM trying my best to add to articles what I feel is neccessary (The Godzilla in SSBB joke not included). (66.214.8.7 (talk) 04:11, 21 February 2008 (UTC))

Also Known As?

It is stated Godzilla is "also known as The King of the Monsters and Gigantis, the Fire Monster." As the introductory sentence to the entire article, these two pieces of information are so insignificant, they don't warrant mention in the very beginning. The nickname "King of the Monsters" is (correct me if I'm wrong) a slogan given for the original American release probably by a bunch of marketing guys. Since then it has grown into a term of endearment but nobody regularly uses the phrase interchangeably in formal writing with the name "Godzilla." Likewise, Godzilla is never ever ever called Gigantis (Fire Monster or not) outside of the context of the original American version of Godzilla Raids Again. Even modern day viewers refer to it as a "Godzilla movie" featuring Godzilla. According the the movie's Wikipedia article, Toho even had the rerelease titled as Godzilla instead of Gigantis. As such, the two terms above should hold their current place of prominence and be relegated to the article's body (especially "Gigantis"). Does anyone agree? --Blackbox77 (talk) 19:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

• OK, I'll agree. These are a movie subtitle (for the US re-edit of the first Godzilla movie) and the US release title of Godzilla Raids Again. The first Godzilla movie I saw was "Gigantis" on original release. But these are movie titles, not alternate names for our misunderstood friend.Naaman Brown (talk) 19:01, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

"Cameo Appearence"

This article is for the *canon* appearences of Godzilla in official Godzilla media. His five second cameo in Sunset on 3rd Street 2 does not warrant a mention here. That sort of thing belongs in the Godzilla in popular culture article.

K00bine (talk) 21:39, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Godzilla Task Force

I think there should be a Godzilla Task Force if there isn't one already. I couldn't find one, so I proposed it here [1]. Please support! —Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexanderTG (talk • contribs) 19:15, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

fixing?

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   * It resembles a fan site. Tagged since January 2009.
   * It describes a work or element of fiction in a primarily in-universe style that may require cleanup. Tagged since January 2009.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Real ultimate life hulk! (talk • contribs) 07:59, 3 January 2009 (UTC) 

Content badly needed.

I believe that this article needs content in general. And by that, content that supplements the information already there. Most of the old stuff that I just got rid of was a bunch of summaries about a few of the different movies, and that's just unnecessary here. What really needs to be done is explain what movies were significant and why, where Godzilla has appeared in pop culture, and what makes him popular in general. Any work on that front would go a long way to making this article a real good one. ~Mecha DarkWarrior 05:29, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

category list

The category list for Godzilla is fairly comprehensive but some idiot keeps taking out Godzilla from the kaiju category. For those who don't know, kaiju is a Japanese term for monster and it is used to describe fictional Japanese monsters (like the ones you see in Godzilla movies). I think you should keep that category. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.64.28.138 (talk) 02:00, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

???

Does eny one know about a new godzilla movie coming out 2012? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.157.212.2 (talk) 15:20, 15 October 2009 (UTC) Yes TOHO Kingdom comfirmed that they will be making one sometime during 2012-2014. Also the movie will be called Godzilla 3D to the max. And he will fight a monster named Deathla wich is a Hedorah that eats plants and is made of plants. They have already made a cover of the movie. --GZ411 (talk) 19:14, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

This Reboot Business

I'm the one who started the reboot section, so I think its good to have a discussion here. Obviously its so far just a rumour, so anything you hear about the project should be taken with a grain of salt, as should what you write on the article. My biggest question is to whoever added the part about the release date. I'm concerned about it both in regards to the credibility of the article, and because of the fact that I'm a godzilla fan and find this news interesting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rubber24 (talk • contribs) 06:43, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Missing information on the Matthew Broderick version

While I agree that this movie did not depict the "real" Godzilla, it should still be discussed for encyclopedic reasons. 88.77.152.227 (talk) 21:36, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Already there. See Godzilla#Heisei_series. --Jtalledo (talk) 00:44, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Should Zilla be merged into this page?

Discuss here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zilla

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No. They are completely seperate monsters and therefore their articles should be kept seperate. We may as well just create a List of Godzilla monsters page and merge them all. 75.157.115.154 (talk) 07:30, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Godzilla major foes Gigan? Really?

I can see his foes being MechaGodzilla and GHidora... But Gigan? As far as personality, Gigan was a cheap shot backstabber and only a real coward. He really wasn't that strong. Are we "just" considering the new final wars? I think this needs to be straighten out. Gigan was never as close to killing Godzilla compared to mechagodzilla or as meancing as King ghidora —Preceding unsigned comment added by00:39, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

1977 film

What is this 1977 film? --Mystère Martin (talk) 15:29, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Its an edited version of Godzilla, King of the Monsters! that was released for the Italian market. Read about it here

http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2009/05/31/talking-cozzilla-an-interview-with-italian-godzilla-director-luigi-cozzi/

Giantdevilfish (talk) 15:27, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks --Mystère Martin (talk) 11:11, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Gender of Godzilla: he or she?

Article uses "he". http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_godzilla_a_male_or_female incoherently rambles that it lays eggs. Just curious, I don't remember movie that well, and questions about Godzilla gender was asked between friends. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.148.10.233 (talk) 04:06, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

this padge

i cant believe that they actually have a page for Godzilla but i was even more surprised on how much commenting was done on the discussion page!--zed127 high school student 18:13, 1 March 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zed127 (talk • contribs)

Idea

A category for fictional Hollywood Walk of Fame honorees? 71.59.165.129 (talk) 22:24, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Bambi

Anyone able to find "Bambi Vs. Godzilla"? It's an excellent short made by a small production group. Definately worth adding if it can be done properly. I don't have the wiki-skills to do so. - TheBill