Talk:Yingluck Shinawatra

Among youngest female heads of government?

The article notes that she is the first female prime minister of Thailand. But at age 44, I wonder if she is among the youngest (youngest? 2nd youngest? among the 5 youngest? etc) female heads of government in the world? There is a list of female heads at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women_heads_of_state but that is not sorted in the order of youngest to oldest (age when elected to government).

If someone finds out, please add to this article.. Harel (talk) 22:42, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• Be careful: the Prime Minister is the head of government, the King is the head of state.125.25.40.243 (talk) 15:15, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

According to the Benazir Bhutto article, "Bhutto was sworn in as Prime Minister for the first time in 1988 at the age of 35" so Yingluck Shinawatra would not be the youngest ever. Mtminchi08 (talk) 02:00, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

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Details of her business career

Let's try adding some more detail to her business career. Since she's a political novice, this will provide some guidance to how she manages.Patiwat (talk) 07:34, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Youngest Prime Minister in over 60 years

When Abhisit was appointed Prime Minister in 17 December 2008, he was the youngest Prime Minister in over 60 years. ([1]). He was born on 3 August 1964 and was 44 years, 4 months, and 14 days old on the date of his appointment. Yingluck has yet to be formally appointed Prime Minister by King Bhumibol. But she was born on 21 June 1967. On Monday 5 July 2011, one day after the election, she is 44 years and 15 months old. If there is no constitutional crisis that prevents King Bhumibol from formally appointing her as the head of government, she will be the youngest Prime Minister in over 60 years. I'll wait until the formal appointment until I add this to the intro. Why bother mentioning it? Because someone made a strong case for mentioning this in the intro to the Abhisit article.Patiwat (talk) 15:36, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Why mention the nickname?

Because in many of her public communications, for example in her Twitter or Facebook posts, she calls herself by her nickname. The article should mention her nickname just so that's clear. Patiwat (talk) 11:16, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

In southeast Asian nations in general, not just in Thailand, nicknames play critical roles in identifying public personages; but the practice in Thailand is to prefix nicknames with some sort of honorific, unless the intention is to be blunt. Her's would be Nong Pu, (Little Sister Crab), or Nong Gam Pu, (Little Sister Crab Claws) to her intimates and family; Khun Pu to such as her Facebook friends, where she uses plain pu in lieu of of the first person pronoun I. Her king's nickname is properly Ong Lek (Lek meaning little and Ong a classifier (linguistics) for royalty or other sacred person.) Her brother's is bluntly Miao, and can refer to either a cat, or a tribe held in low regard. I'm not aware of any Thai nickname for the former PM, other than enclosing his given name "Mark" in quotes; his schoolboy nickname "Veggie" was simply English boys play on his outlandish family name. --Pawyilee (talk) 16:42, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

See, for instance, Benigno Aquino III and Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, whose nicknames are in the lede. --Pawyilee (talk) 17:04, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

The Election Commission's Tuesday meeting has discussed and voted on the complaint filed against Ms Yingluck who cooked fried noodle and distributed to crowd during her election campaign in Nakhon Ratchasima. Her action allegedly violated election law. The EC’s decision on the matter will be announced later. On the home front, my wife sang me a song already going around about KHUN NAI GAM PU, saying the complainants are trying to cook crab claws in Korat -- and getting nipped. --Pawyilee (talk) 14:31, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

PS: It rankles because Samak was also deposed for a cooking offense; but that's merely history. --Pawyilee (talk) 15:06, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Why mention Thai Rak Thai?

I had mentioned that the TRT party had been shut down and its executive team banned from politics, and this fact was deleted by another editor. I think this information is critically important because it helps explain why Yingluck still isn't party leader or a member of its executive team; it also provides context for her amnesty proposal.Patiwat (talk) 17:42, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Too, her supporters often bluntly pronounce her given name without an honorific as Ying Lak, which alters its rather obscure Pali meaning of "Major Support" to "Still Love!" The TRT party name is pronounced Thai Lak Thai, meaning "Thai Love Thai," echoing HM's slogan during the 1997 Asian financial crisis: Thai Chuay Thai "Thai Help Thai." --Pawyilee (talk) 15:28, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Please, that is utterly irrelevant, apart from the fact that you're mixing up ร and ล which are different. --Paul_012 (talk) 17:29, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Please, it is totally relevant, and I'm not mixing them up — they are, in the Isan version of punning word play. I got caught up today in a victory parade with a sound truck towing a diesel generator so it could blast out LAK YING LAK YING LAK YING LAK --Pawyilee (talk) 16:32, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Well, the section of the article is about Yingluck's own political career and not - forgive the exaggeration - about the history of Thailand. She was - as far as I know and, more importantly, the sources indicate - no member of Thai Rak Thai, it is just the predecessor of the predecessor of her party, that is why I removed it. To understand the context of the amnesty proposal, readers can follow the link and read the articles about TRT, or PPP, or Thaksin. That is the good thing about the Wikipedia. We do not have to explain it here. This article is about Yingluck's biography and policies, what happened in Thailand before she entered politics does not belong here. Are you OK with that solution? -- RJFF (talk) 19:50, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

TRT IS presently mentioned in passing, and my wife is neither a Wiki editor nor does she care about those ignorant of polly-tickle puns in Thai, though she couldn't do without 'em. --Pawyilee (talk) 14:47, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Image

Searching Google Images for "Yingluck Shinawatra free image" returns about 95,900 results. Thai Wikipedia has http://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B9%84%E0%B8%9F%E0%B8%A5%E0%B9%8C:Yingrak.jpg

--Pawyilee (talk) 11:57, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

That image is being used in violation of copyright. They shouldn't be using it, but the Thai Wikipedia has tended to be more lenient on such issues. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:43, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Now they're using this one in their category news. I tried asking at one of her several Facebook pages for one of hers, but don't know how to long onto any of them. And what's the deal with campaign posters photographed at the side of a road? What if I ask a local PT member for an image? What kind of documentation should I also ask for? (This is getting ridiculous.) --Pawyilee (talk) 15:14, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

One could hope that the new PM continues with Abhisit's Flickr page policy. This Flickr user has some photos, but they're licensed CC-By-NC, which is incompatible with Wikipedia. An interested editor could message the page's owner requesting permission for an image or two. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

One could also hope for readily-accessible definitions of CC-By-NC and CC-By-SA. Creative Commons licenses are NOT user-friendly.--Pawyilee (talk) 06:10, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

At least we have one for the nonce, though I don't expect it to last for long. There should, however, be an official photo of her at the House site. --Pawyilee (talk) 13:32, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Liberal party.

The "now-defunct Liberal party" may have been revived. The Electoral Commission's handout shows as number 22 [พรรคเสรีนิยม Pak Seriniyom] Error: {{Lang-xx}}: text has italic markup (help) its logo a blue rectangle with a white dove in flight above the party name in Thai, and in English: Liberal Party. Its officers are: 1. นายพุทธชาตื ช่วยราม 2.นายเพชร เหมือนพันธุ์ 3.นายธนาคาร ม่วงศิริ 4.นายบุญราย สทวิะวงศ์ 5.น.ส.เปรมินทร์ ญาณศิริ 6.นายศุภพิชญ์ บุญญะฤทธิ์ 7.นางปณตพร แด้วชัด 8.นาย ส.ศิริชัยอนุสสรณ์ สุขวรรณะ and platform: นโยบาย "ภูมิปัญญาไทย วิสัยทัศน์สากล" --Pawyilee (talk) 15:00, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

EL

Please add

• Yingluck Shinawatra collected news and commentary at The New York Times
• Executive profile at Bloomberg Businessweek

Honorific prefix

Foreign heads of government are styled Excellency only in diplomatic or inter-governmental contexts. It is customarily not to be included in Wikipedia biographies (different from The Rt. Hon.) Kind regards -- RJFF (talk) 08:41, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

There are a hell of a lot of biography articles where the template is headed by the appropriate honorific. You'll be busy from here to kingdom come getting rid of all of 'em unless you go to home Template:Infobox officeholder and remove the offending entry. --Pawyilee (talk) 10:03, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Yingluck she is she is the youngest of ten children/ not nine