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We don't need non-english versions of Cardiff in the infobox section of the capital city or the demonym section (see [[England]], [[Scotland]] & [[Northern Ireland]] for examples). -- [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 11:13, 14 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:Welsh is an official language with equal status in Wales. We need them, stop stirring pots --[[User:Snowded|<font color="#801818" face="Papyrus">'''Snowded'''</font>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Snowded#top|<font color="#708090" face="Baskerville">TALK</font>]]</sup></small> 12:40, 14 August 2011 (UTC) |
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::Let's await other opinons on the matter. Though a sovereign state, [[Canada]]'s infobox section, doesn't have the french version of ''Canadian'' in its demonym section.[[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 12:43, 14 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Maybe it should. Also GoodDay, you have been here before. Every six months or so we have to go through the dance with you on this one, its tedious --[[User:Snowded|<font color="#801818" face="Papyrus">'''Snowded'''</font>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Snowded#top|<font color="#708090" face="Baskerville">TALK</font>]]</sup></small> 13:05, 14 August 2011 (UTC) |
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::::We'll let others decide, not you & D. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 13:10, 14 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::Firstly, it doesn't matter what other articles do or don't do unless there's a proper guideline. Does anyone have a ''reason'' why "we don't need" the Welsh name of the capital city etc in the infobox? Simply saying that it's not necessary doesn't cut it. If there's no logical reason to take it out, leave it in - it is an official language after all. We're in the business of adding information, not removing it for no good reason. [[User:Bretonbanquet|Bretonbanquet]] ([[User talk:Bretonbanquet|talk]]) 13:14, 14 August 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::Such info can be handled in the intro. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 13:17, 14 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::::[[DNFTT|You just want to wind things up again]] GoodDay, this has been discussed and resolved before and you know it. Try and find something constructive to do please, for your sake as much as for the encyclopedia. --[[User:Snowded|<font color="#801818" face="Papyrus">'''Snowded'''</font>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Snowded#top|<font color="#708090" face="Baskerville">TALK</font>]]</sup></small> 13:20, 14 August 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::::Take your personal attacks elsewhere & allow others to comment, please. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 13:24, 14 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::::::I say we keep them in there, on the grounds that they need to be there - I'm not going to give a reason, but go along GoodDay's logic that they just don't need to be there... -- '''[[User:Xxglennxx|<font color="green">Xxglennxx</font>]]''' (''[[User talk:Xxglennxx|talk]]'' • ''[[Special:Contributions/Xxglennxx|cont.]]'') 14:32, 14 August 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::::::Keep both names as now, of course. [[User:Ghmyrtle|Ghmyrtle]] ([[User talk:Ghmyrtle|talk]]) 15:19, 14 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::Not a shadow of a doubt - both. [[User:Agathoclea|Agathoclea]] ([[User talk:Agathoclea|talk]]) 19:04, 25 August 2011 (UTC) |
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== Welsh Motto == year whatever what im asking is when did whales join the uk?
A Welsh friend of mine says the English translation of the motto is 'Long Live Wales', instead of 'Wales Forever'.
Shall we edit that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.19.85.162 (talk) 17:18, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
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Information about the Presiding Officer still reads Lord Dafydd Elis-Thomas when it should read Rosemary Butler of Welsh Labour. Thanks!
Mulberry212 (talk) 15:43, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
- actioned --Snowded TALK 15:54, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from Tabulabells, 13 September 2011
{{edit semi-protected}} In the 'dance' section of the 'Wales' page I suggest that the sentence "while the country's traditional dance lie in folk dancing and clog dancing" be changed to "while the country's traditional dance lie in folk dancing, Morris dancing and clog dancing"
And a link be added to the 'Nantgarw tradition' page through the added words 'Morris dancing'.
Thank you. Tabulabells (talk) 11:47, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
- Most references to morris dancing that I can find - including our article - refer to it as an English tradition. Clearly morris dancing teams are established in Wales, but I'm not convinced it should be added as a Welsh dance tradition. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:25, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
- Ah - OK, maybe. I'm still not sure it's worthy of mention in this article - other opinions would be useful. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:34, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
- Our friend may have a point. The Encyclopaedia of Wales does brush with this fact. In their section on dance it mentions two notable importance sources that helped revive traditional dance in Wales. Those being the Llangollen International Musical Eisteddfod and the recalling of the Nantgarw dances by Catherine Margaretta Thomas. That is as big a call as the tradition gets in the book and the 'M' word is not mentioned. Now we are trying to keep the main article tight and not overflowing with minutia, but it does have a foothold here. The original dance section in the Wales article was penned by myself, and I have little knowledge of the subject apart from what a few books in the house, but it may be worth someone with a better understanding of the subject (hint,hint) to create a Dance of Wales article to tag underneath as a 'see also' to allow the topic to flourish there? FruitMonkey (talk) 16:55, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
- I'm no expert, but I do dabble in a spot or (Welsh) folk dancing. I think 'Nantgarw' is a name of a well known dance 'routine' in the Welsh folkdancing tradition, in tribute to the Nantgarw Dance Fair, and there's a well know dance group called Dawnswyr Nantgarw. There may be a Morris Dancing group who perform a dance they call the Nantgraw dance, but I imagine it's not that well known and we need to be carefull we do'nt mix the two up. Llok like self-promotion to me.--Rhyswynne (talk) 09:37, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
- Our friend may have a point. The Encyclopaedia of Wales does brush with this fact. In their section on dance it mentions two notable importance sources that helped revive traditional dance in Wales. Those being the Llangollen International Musical Eisteddfod and the recalling of the Nantgarw dances by Catherine Margaretta Thomas. That is as big a call as the tradition gets in the book and the 'M' word is not mentioned. Now we are trying to keep the main article tight and not overflowing with minutia, but it does have a foothold here. The original dance section in the Wales article was penned by myself, and I have little knowledge of the subject apart from what a few books in the house, but it may be worth someone with a better understanding of the subject (hint,hint) to create a Dance of Wales article to tag underneath as a 'see also' to allow the topic to flourish there? FruitMonkey (talk) 16:55, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
There is a discussion at the above talk page in which some contributors have expressed the view that Scotland and Wales should be excluded because they are not "independent sovereign states". Any views one way or the other? --TraceyR (talk) 19:42, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
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