Talk:Samantha Fox

Which Sam Fox?

She certainly used to appear in "men's magazines" - not sure whether or not this was prior to her appearance in the Sun.

I don't claim to be an expert on the subject, but you might be confusing the British Sam Fox [1] who was a page 3 girl with the American Sam Fox [2] who has appeared in "men's magazines", both were active at the same time. It seems the two are quite frequently mixed up. -- Popsracer 11:54, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)

I'm not confusing the two, the British Sam Fox was definitely in men's magazines around '85-'86. I was under the impression that she didn't pose for page three until '86 though, for which I stand duly corrected.  :) - Hephaestos 12:03, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)

I give you: Mayfair, Volume 20, No 4 - April 1985, and possibly also Penthouse Mar 1985 Vol 20 No 3 -- Karada

Hmm. She would presumably have been 18 in the Mayfair pictures: perhaps the publishers were concerned about U.S. pornography laws, and waited until they felt that they were safe...

We have to mention The Brit Awards in this. Mintguy 11:59, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Sui generis - you expect Sun readers to know latin (or at least be bothered to click on the link). Mintguy 13:00, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)

The use in the article is possibly a fine example of British humor and understatement but it is slightly unclear at what end of the extremes her performance was.

What exactly is the meaning of it in this article? I clicked on the link and it didn't explain anything. --Robotech_Master 22:26, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Disambiguation question

I'm a bit surprised that no one has thought to distinguish these two ladies, seeing how their fans are well aware that there are 2 women with this name.

So how should we handle this confusion over similar names? Move this content to Samantha Karen Fox, create an article under Stasia Therese Angela Micula for the American Samantha Fox, star of stage & screen, & create a disambig to fill this namespace? Or leave the content here & just offer a link to Stasia Therese Angela Micula (her birth name, according to IMDB) for those looking for the American Samantha Fox? -- llywrch 23:30, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

The image

Surely there's a better, non-topless image of SF that can be used in this article, which is, I remind everyone, supposed to be encyclopaedic (I'm removing the bit about her "alleged" measurements too). Exploding Boy 01:12, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

"During her modelling career, her measurements were reported as 195cm tall, 991cm/568cm/729cm 36-23-31" (B/W/H)"

Are you guys sure about those measurements? 991 cms is almost 10 metres, ie about 30 feet. 212.171.197.7 23:21, 12 February 2006 (UTC)Vince In Milan

Everyone knows that the camera adds 9 meters to your height, surely? -- Jalabi99 04:57, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Her measurements should probably be included along with her height, as she was a topless model and therefore such stats are relevant. The 36, I believe, was a 36DD. (!)

• I have changed the image to an album cover. Candice 18:29, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

The second photo here appears to violate Wikipedia policy against nudity in articles. PatGallacher 10:01, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

• No it's not. There is no such policy. WP:ISNOT#Wikipedia_is_not_censored --Haham hanuka 12:11, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
• Can you please provide a link to the "Wikipedia policy against nudity in articles"? Dubidub 19:48, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Indecent image

The image on this article appears to be a topless photo of a 16 year old - under British law (sexual offences bill 2003) this may count as child pornography. Can anyone confirm the legality of this?

I have had a look at the Sexual Offences Act 2003. By my reading this photo in the Sun was not illegal when it was published, but it is now. Wikipedia is governed by Florida law, which makes it easier to publish some matters which might be illegal in Britain, but under this Act Britain claims far-reaching extraterritorial powers. In Florida the normal age of consent is 18, so this image could be illegal there. We should err on the side of caution in the absence of a formal lawyer's opinion. PatGallacher

I think we should keep it in the absence of legal threat. I see no harm. —Nightstallion (?) 10:53, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

It's child pornography. Why do you think images of this nature should be on wikipedia?

Whether it's child pornography or not is a matter of definition, depending on where you live... —Nightstallion (?) 13:02, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

This is not child porn, no matter the age. This is not a pornographic photos. --Haham hanuka 19:56, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

That, too, though I'm sure that depends on your jurisdiction, as well; I wouldn't consider it pornography, softcore or erotic art at best. —Nightstallion (?) 11:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

I personally think it should be left until there is a legal threat. Its not at all pornographic, and was legal at the time it was taken... Are thoes laws retroactive, or is it like a car where if it didn't need a seatbelt the year it was built it doesn't ever.

This article needs help

This article is very badly written, can't someone rescue it? And what is with the Canadian bent? Hardly relevant to an article on someone who was an icon in Britain at the height of her fame.

I agree, it's a terrible terrible article, some parts clearly written by people who don't speak English well, and amazingly, the Italian page has a lot more information than this one! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.48.111.69 (talk) 01:53, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Height

I really don't think that her height, i.e. 1.55 m (5 ft 1 in) tall is so important that it belongs in th first sentence. I'm not sure where it belongs at all. RJFJR 03:50, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Hawkwind

Someone has to mention that Sam Fox appeared wirh Hawkwind in er... 2000 for a reuninn Gimme Shelter thingy. I even saw her singing "I've got two silver machines" and wobble her assets. The rudeness don't quite work I know.

You gotta include the Hawkwind connection though - it's too weird to ignore!

Last published photos

The section on modelling career contains the following sentence:

"In 1996, aged 30, she appeared in the October issue of Playboy magazine. These were her final published nude photos."

It also then has this paragraph at the end:

"Samantha Fox was, in a online vote held by the British Newspaper the Daily Star, voted by its readers, as 'The best page 3 pin up ever' in September 2008. As a result of the poll win, she appeared topless for the first time in 12 years in the Daily Star although on page 5, not page 3."

Presumably if this last sentence is correct then the line about the 1996 playboy photos being her final published nude photos is incorrect. extraordinary (talk) 15:36, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Category

anybody knows why is she in "lesbian musicians" and not in "bisexual musicians"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.117.94.130 (talk) 23:37, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

because she is a lesbian and not bisexual " 'I wouldn't say I'm bi because I'm in a gay relationship and I love her and I want to be with her forever. So to say I'm bisexual... it's too shallow. Maybe when I was younger I thought I was bisexual, but then I think I was just confused.' feb 2003 interview with guardian.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.199.115 (talk • contribs) 17:15, November 27, 2009

• And said interview can be found here. Tabercil (talk) 23:46, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

She sounds like she's bisexual but only identifies as "Lesbian" because of Lesbian Inc. and having a lesbian partner, since historically and politically there are A LOT of lesbian women who are full of hatred and bigotry towards bisexual women and want to erase and pretend that every woman who has a sexual attraction or sleeps with women is "lesbian" and that women can only be "lesbian" or heterosexual. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.162.251.171 (talk) 02:58, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Speaking (writing?) as someone who used to identify as bisexual and now identifies as lesbian, I think it is quite wrong to assume she only identifies as lesbian due to some kind of pressure from other lesbian women. All we can do as far as someone's sexual orientation is take their word for it, and she says she identifies as lesbian, case closed. I do believe there are bisexual people of both sexes and have no wish to erase their identity, but just because a woman has slept with men in her life doesn't make her bisexual. 88.104.130.240 (talk) 10:33, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

OTRS ticket

OTRS ticket 2010102410002951 is related to this article and the reason I've semi-protected it due to vandalism. If you have any questions, please let me know on my talk page. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 12:18, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Song Little Girl?

Can anyone confirm if Hugh Laurie's amusing song "Little Girl" - played during his time with Stephen Fry is actually inspired from Samantha Fox. It seems likely. 22:19, 28 March 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.169.97.130 (talk)

Porn?

Where is the article about her appearing in a porn flick? Jeesh I can remember it right now. I think that I have it at home. It was her, not the older Samatha Fox of the same name.99.6.4.126 (talk) 02:13, 20 November 2011 (UTC)