Talk:Racism

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posting such images aims to malign the image and reputation of all Muslims regardless of their race or ethnicity.

As we all know this was not the only form of racism in the Middle Ages therefore it is very important to balance the article.

Bias

Dear Wikipedia,

The article section regarding racism in the Middle Ages, becomes very bias and one-sided when images such as:

Why not add another picture depicting the images of the "Moor" victims of the Reconquesta or the Crusades, in order to balance the article a little bit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mughal Lohar (talk • contribs) 16:28, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

I would like to see a "cultural" racism section, and also a "individual" racism section

I recently attended a Anti Racism training, and these are the terms they used. They call it the "racism iceberg" - the type of racism that we see in everyday life but this is caused at the root by instutional racism. Institutional racism leads to a culture that contains racist concepts, which leads to individual acts of racism as racism becomes acceptable. SkymanUU

The belief systems of the "anti-racists" promote racial biases of their own, to the degree that all non-white people are exempted from the possibility of being racist. EyePhoenix (talk) 21:59, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

"all non-white people are exempted from the possibility of being racist." is an interesting concept, but does not address (among things) racism that occurs when there are no white people involved at all. Racism, it's not just black & white. Carptrash (talk) 22:54, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Racial discrimination section

Am I think only one that finds this section amazingly lacking, with a discussion dominated by an MIT study on discrimination for job interviews? That's it? That's all there is to say about racial discrimination? What about in other countries? The entire article except the history section seems to focus solely on the US. The US is certainly not the capitol of racism; but if I were young and uninformed and came here for information, I would certainly begin to think so. --THE FOUNDERS INTENT ^PRAISE 13:13, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

I look forward to seeing your improvements. Carptrash (talk) 14:14, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Proposed Racial Inequality Section

I think a section that discusses racial inequalities caused by various forms racism would be valuable to this article. There is no current page about racial inequality and I feel it deserves mention under the Racism article. There are hints at racial inequality throughout the page however, there is no one section devoted to explaining how racism can lead to extreme racial inequality. Possible placement of this potential section could follow the "Types" section which includes topics such as Racial Discrimination, Institutional Racism, Economic Racism, and Declarations and International Law Against Racial Discrimination. A Racial Inequality section would tie these types of racism together and help readers understand the magnitude of how racism can cause great inequality among different racial and ethnic groups. Cnovoa17 (talk) 18:58, 19 September 2011 (UTC)cnovoa17

Slurs all racist activities and connotations together in an non-objective way

"Racism is popularly associated with various activities that are illegal or commonly considered harmful, such as extremism, hatred, xenophobia, (malignant or forced) exploitation, separatism, racial supremacy, mass murder (for the purpose of genocide), genocide denial, vigilantism (hate crimes, terrorism), etc."

"commonly considered harmful" this is a perspective that needs to be made more objective. I am from china and most racist people in china do not consider racism harmful. Also in America most racists do not consider racism to me harmful. If the author's intent is to assume most people are not racist that is silly because that can not readily be proven.

Also by slurring all the racist concepts together in that sentence gives a connotation of illegality which in America is especially not the case. Freedom of speech allows racism and by and large the great majority of "popular" racism (as the paragraph asserts) is non-violent.

Please someone unlock this article to allow me to correct this or someone correct it themselves. Thank you.

108.17.109.131 (talk) 00:27, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Your arguments are all based on misunderstanding the sentence. It does not say racism is illegal or commonly considered harmful. It says "various activities ... are illegal or commonly considered harmful" and that those activities are "popularly associated with" racism. The activities ("extremism, hatred, xenophobia, (malignant or forced) exploitation, separatism, racial supremacy, mass murder (for the purpose of genocide), genocide denial, vigilantism (hate crimes, terrorism), etc.") are "illegal or commonly considered harmful". - SummerPhD (talk) 00:48, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Supremacism and the first sentence about the crusades should be removed

The sentence that is in question states: "The Middle Ages Crusades have been described as an example of white supremacist colonialism." using the source given by Angeliki E. Laiou and Roy P. Mottahedeh. The book "The Crusades from the perspective of Byzantium and the Muslim world" states:
“Almost all the historians and chroniclers of the expeditions that were later called the first Crusade considered them a response to the Muslim threats to Christian Holy places and peoples in the east. They wrote from different points of view, however…” Then goes on to explain their own view of what took place.
By their own admission this is not a recognized view by historians it is an alternate view. Can we strike this from the article please? Thank you
--OxAO (talk) 19:58, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 10 December 2011

Someone should remove the citation needed sections of this article that are not explained or justified in the discussion section. Stoicscientist (talk) 07:10, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

 Not done for now: When citations are provided, they will be removed. Puffin ^{Let's talk!} 18:13, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

UN definition of racism: discrimination on race and ethnicity

Here's the citation that's needed for the last part of the abstract: http://www2.ohchr.org/english/law/cerd.htm specifically the first part of article 1. 77.250.97.191 (talk) 16:29, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

edit request added 77.250.97.191 (talk) 16:29, 18 December 2011 (UTC)