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...thanks. Bayuganon editor (talk) 13:46, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

i'm a government official creating a page for Dr. Rao per his request and I'm responsible for the content posted on our website that was copy-pasted to his wiki page.

Please do not edit this page and remove content! Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaiavs (talk • contribs) 16:34, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Please see WP:OWN. You do not own the content posted on Wikipedia. Any article is open for editing by any editor. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:04, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Didn't say I own the content, just that we were using our own material to populate the page and thus didn't infringe copyrights. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaiavs (talk • contribs) 17:38, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Actually, you did assert ownership, as you very explicitly told me not to edit the page. The fact is that, while the text you copied is fine for the NIH website, where the NIH is interested in promoting its efforts and the value of its employees, such text (whether copyrighted or not) is inappropriate for a neutral encyclopedia article. Wikipedia has guidelines, and all articles must follow them. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:42, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Please keep Foser Natural Gas/Oil page

Please do not delete the page for Foster Natural/Gas Oil Report. It is a page for a reputable economic consultancy company called Foster Associates, Inc. It is a major natural gas and oil industry player in operation since 1956. They are a direct competitor of FERC and Platts. Platts has a wikipedia page and Foster should as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katya Foster (talk • contribs) 19:57, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

I can find no indication that this particular company has significant impact in the industry. The oil/gas industry is replete with consultancies; not all of them are notable. FERC is an agency of the United States Government, and has a fair amount of inherent notability because of that. The Platts article is poorly sourced, but a Google search generates lots of hits. A Google news search on "Foster Natural Gas Report" shows no hits, while a global Google search on the same terms shows mainly primary sources (i.e. hits within the Foster site itself or business listings for Foster). If you can provide some sources indicating significant coverage in independent, reliable sources, you might be able to save the article from deletion.

If you believe the article is worth keeping, you are free to say so at the articles for deletion discussion. Unfortunately, your user name would indicate a close connection with the organization, which may reduce the credence given to your arguments in the matter. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:06, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

I know that my page was placed in the deleted section by you. Please remove this and confirm my page. It is a legitimate page for a well established company. You claim that Foster is unknown in the oil and natural gas business. What makes you say that? What are your credentials to be making such judgements? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katya Foster (talk • contribs) 22:51, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Your page was nominated for deletion by me. It has not yet been deleted. Once the nomination has been made, the notice cannot be removed from the article until the discussion has completed. A discussion will ensue at the location I have provided to you and consensus will be reached among several editors as to whether the article merits inclusion or not.

For the record, I did not claim that Foster is unknown in the oil and gas business; I have no basis of such knowledge. I said it is apparently unknown outside of that business, based on the lack of results when searching for the company in general Google or Google news. If you can prove otherwise, please do so. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 23:09, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

I am not making pleas. You flagged a legitimate article which you had no right to flag. You yourself state that you know nothing about the oil industry and are making your judgements based on google. You say you didnt find our company on google? How carefully did you look? I need this page running tomorrow. Please help me. I understand that you cannot undo what you did, but please speak to other editors or get people to vote this page as ligitimate so that it can work and get the attention it deservs. If Platts can have a page on wikipedia so can Foster. Otherwise, its not fair. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katya Foster (talk • contribs) 00:47, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Why do you need this page running? That sounds kind of like you might be getting paid to write the page, which is strongly discouraged. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:29, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Ok I am really getting tired of this. You have no right to do this. I will fight you on this. Who gave you a right to decide who is and who is not a legitimate business. If you are so interested talk to every major oil company in the US and you will learn what Foster is. I am not getting paid to be making any pages. I simply feel that it is unfair that Platts has a page and Foster does not. However, the fact that you are fighting Foster so hard on trying to create a page makes me feel that you must work for Platts and are trying to make them a monopoly in the market. This goes against all the rules. Either keep the Foster page or you need to delete Platts as well. Or are they paying you personally to keep them? Katya_Foster — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katya Foster (talk • contribs) 15:56, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm a software engineer working in the aerospace industry and really don't give a hoot about the oil and gas industry at all. I found your page as a new page patroller and ascertained by a Google search that there are not sufficient sources to verify the notability of this company. Because of this, I nominated the page for deletion. Deletion of the page is by no means certain -- the discussion is a process and many other editors can enter into the process. If you feel that the company is notable, please say so at the proper forum (to which you have been directed multiple times). However, just because Platts has a page, this does not mean that your company also deserves a page. (See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS.) It doesn't really mean that Platts deserves a page -- that's a matter for a different discussion.

Since you appear to be taking a hostile turn toward me personally, I would ask you to refrain from further comment on my talk page. Please address your concerns about the article to the proper AFD discussion. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 16:17, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion contested: Nexus (Process integration and optimization)

Hello WikiDan61. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Nexus (Process integration and optimization), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguous advertising, can be cleaned without a rewrite. Perhaps send to AFD on notability issues. Thank you. Steven Zhang ^{The clock is ticking....} 22:27, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Waterstudio

Hi, thanks for the advise but what can i do now ? it is not possible to write about someone yoy know ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waterstudio (talk • contribs) 13:41, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

I presume you are talking about the username warning I posted on your user talk page. You are discouraged about writing about people you know personally, because of the difficulty of maintaining a neutral point of view about such subjects. However, the real problem is that your name matches the name of the company that Koen Olthuis has created, and so it appears that you are editing on behalf of that company. This practice is not allowed. (See WP:ORGNAME.) WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 16:45, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Request for deletion of the page as early as possible http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maple_leaf_International_School.

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The page is contains inadequate and personal distaste information. None were relevant and the page was completely misused to dishonour Maple Leaf International school. Please delete the page as early as possible to bring no harm to the well reputed institution.

Thank You! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fauzulkc (talk • contribs) 17:52, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

oh whoops, i'll definitely be more careful, i think i got a bit too on a roll there xP Glacialfox (talk) 17:55, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

new article

Hi WikiDan61! As you happened to review one of my recent contributions, I wondered if you could find a spare minute and have a look at the article that I want to publish. It's in my sandbox. If you have no time or simply can't be bothered to do so, perhaps you can advise who I can turn to? :) Thank you.Gavin.nast (talk) 09:45, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

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Hard luck - they've translated it... Peridon (talk) 19:42, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

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Delete me

Cheers WikiDan Delete me and have a nice day. Jaydee147 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.79.36.39 (talk) 18:09, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Bretby Art Pottery: Unreliable Source?

Saw your note about Melanie Paling's "Art Pottery, Accepting the Inevitable" suggested as an unreliable source. I know that around 1986 the author was in the course of graduating from Stourbridge College (an Art College) where she was studying glass sculpture. I imagine that it was part of her graduation work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimskea (talk • contribs)

Perhaps so, but if the work is not published and generally available (which does not necessarily mean available at EVERY library, but at least at SOME library), then it cannot be used to verify facts in the article. It's not like the author is going to welcome me walking up to her door and saying "Can I please see your Master's Thesis so I can verify that fact in the Wikipedia article?". WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:51, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Core MSO

I noticed that you were trying to delete my companies page. I am the VP of the company, therefore I am allowed to post information about my company. We are in no violation of copyright laws, and I would appreciate you removing your edit from our page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Foxe1027 (talk • contribs) 18:07, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

And I'm the king of Saudi Arabia. Or am I? How would you know? How am I to know that you are the VP of your company? Just saying that you have the right to post the material is not sufficient. There is a process for donating copyrighted materials, but I wouldn't bother because, in addition to being a blatant copy of Core MSO's page, it is also blatantly promotional, which is not allowed. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:14, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

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"RodewayInn" is a sock puppet, by the way. Keizers (talk) 16:16, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the warning, OK I will be careful. However the investigation into sock puppetry came out positive (I think I can say that right?) Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Mmann1988Keizers (talk) 16:23, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Sockpuppet

Keizers has accused me of being a sock puppet without filing the proper investigation (which I am confident will not yeild any results). How do I file a complaint for this?--Mmann1988 (talk) 16:45, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Actually, the investigation has been filed, here, with a checkuser clerk confirming the likelihood that you and RodewayInn (talk · contribs) are the same. You are free to defend yourself at that venue. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 16:47, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

That's impossible and untrue. Keizers is undertaking this accusation because I am Hispanic and disagree with his edits. How do I file a complaint for him making ungrounded accusations that were made before an investigation was undertaken?--Mmann1988 (talk) 16:52, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Take it up with an admin and leave me out of it. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 16:53, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

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Fair enough, it just seems likely that the will make the movie. That's why I jumped the gun perhaps regarding making the wiki page for it.Asphyxia2122 —Preceding undated comment added 17:05, 5 January 2012 (UTC).

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Griffin's Tower

Dear WikiDan61.

I'm a student. I participated in Wikipedia workshop at my university and wrote my first article "Griffin's tower" today. This cultural site is not really known but quite important as a city legend for Saint Petersburg citizens. However when I published my article few minutes later I found that it was proposed to delete. I find this proposal demotivating. As a new wikipedia user I don't feel welcomed here and I don't see how our knowledge can be shared if somebody think it's not significante enough. If you think my article is not well written then you as experienced user should give me some hints instead of proposing to delete the article.

I hope you will understand my disapointment. Best wishes, Ptizza. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ptizza (talk • contribs) 15:53, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

I do understand your disappointment, and you are free to remove the proposed deletion template if you desire. However, please understand that Wikipedia has criteria for what should and should not be included. You are encouraged to familiarize yourself with these guidelines, and with the various other guidance that Wikipedia offers. (I have added the standard new-user welcome message to your talk page -- it contains links to very useful guidelines on how to properly contribute to Wikipedia.)

In this particular case, Griffin's tower does not appear to meet the criteria for inclusion. It is a tower, of no particular special design or architecture -- a relic of a bygone industrial complex. If you can find references to the tower in reliable sources indicating that it has been the topic of significant coverage (not just local trivia), then please add such references to the article (for instructions, see WP:Citing sources). As it stands, the article provides no indication that this place merits inclusion.

I hope you can get past this disappointment and use the provided guidance to become a valuable contributor.

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Feedback

It is not hostile to defend my actions. I never said or implied I was superior to others, I simply said that I make calls on the page patrol. Users like you, who feel the need to continuously post on my wall these half story warnings are starting to make me hostile. I do not know exactly, what posts you are referring to as hostile, but I certainly feel like I have been the result of hostile posts. I will give an example, yesterday I was reported to the admins for vandalism because I removed comments from my talk page and asked the user kindly to stop warning me. The user responded by telling me I was out of line and reported me. I am getting tired of checking my boards every morning to find these unnecessary comments on my page about my behavior. I have been responding to these comments, many of which are ungrounded, and it is very annoying. If you have a problem with my behavior, report me. Otherwise, please go back to your work so I can go back to making wikipedia better. Zzaffuto118 (talk) 17:32, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

• • I now see you were referring to my subpage, I am not even going to justify that page. If you read a little carefully, I linked that page to multiple wikipedia policy pages and just tried to explain my views. Again, report me if I am out of line, but I really don't think that is the case. Zzaffuto118 (talk) 17:35, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

I will just ask you this ,rhetorical, question: Did you honestly read past the part where I called myself a "police officer", or did you just stop there...? I ask this because the rest of the article is exactly contradictory to what you say about me considering myself superior to anyone.Zzaffuto118 (talk) 18:59, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Actually, yes, I did read the entire page rather carefully, and I found the tone very aggressive. Use of the term "illegal" (even if placed in quotes) connotes your role as one of law enforcment. A better term might be "problematic" -- connoting that the articles are not at all illegal, but really only have problems with regards to Wikipedia policies. Similarly, the rest of the article, while relying on Wikipedia policy, just comes across as overly and unnecessarily hostile. That's just my read as a disinterested observer. You can take the feedback for what it's worth. I have no intention of reporting or complaining about the page; I'm just trying to give some friendly advice. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:25, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm really not sure what motivated you to post on my wall, but your "help" is not helpful, and to the contrary is actually very anti-productive. You are just playing semantics like "illegal" vs "problematic". It's not aggressive, my tone is clear. Anyone who takes offense at that tone of writing would probably start crying if they ever had to talk to a lawyer, or any professional. I know wikipedia is open to everybody, but sometimes its better to pick your battles. Note: I would not ever say "pick your battles" on a public page...because that is against the spirit of this wiki. Zzaffuto118 (talk) 23:11, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Last thing, look at the user box for the new page patrol... its a cop! Does that connote law enforcement too? I think writing in red and underlining "I am not an administrator" removes any remaining connotations of authority. Zzaffuto118 (talk) 23:14, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

• "Criminal", even in quotes, is simply inappropriate. It's incorrect (there is no crime--it's a ridiculous notion on this website), it's not funny to contributors of new pages (if humor is what the quotes are supposed to mean), and it's bitey. Did you link to WP:BITE anywhere? Now, I think WikiDan and I have disagreed on some issues, but here we're in agreement. Between the two of us, we have over 120,000 edits on Wikipedia; you have less than 600, and less than 200 in article space. You could consider taking our advice. Change the wording. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 05:39, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion

I suggest you do some background checking (which was provided in the article I created) before nominating it for speedy deletion.

Give your reasons as to why it should be deleted, instead of just nominating it without an explanation why.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:%C3%93gra_Chorca%C3%AD

WinterIsComingOdran (talk) 14:12, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

The fact that The Cork Youth Association is a member of a larger umbrella organization that may (or may not) be notable does not make this organization notable per se. Notability is not inherited. Since the article does not make any assertions of notability OTHER than this membership, I nominated for speedy deletion under the said criteria. (The choice of criteria defines my reason for nominating and really doesn't need any further clarification.) If you can show that the organization is notable, than please feel free to do so. The fact that they don't even have a working website yet indicates to me that the organization is probably quite new and has not yet accomplished anything. When they do accomplish anything notable, they may meet the criteria for inclusion. But that has not yet been demonstrated. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:17, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

It was founded in 1966, it is hardly new. WinterIsComingOdran (talk) 14:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Please define notable regarding the context. WinterIsComingOdran (talk) 14:20, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia has very clear guidelines defining the notability of organizations. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:23, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion

Why attach tag. Hail Life insurance company FC is very important football club of Korean Football history. Hail Life insurance company is defuct at the moment. this is not company advertisment. Please remove tag15:21, 10 January 2012 (UTC)15:21, 10 January 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pfrd (talk • contribs)

You have created numerous articles about various corporate football clubs that say nothing other than that the clubs existed. Since the articles make no assertion of notability, they are candidates for speedy deletion. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:08, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

This clubs won major football competions of south korea. please refer to List of South Korean football champions. Why didn't create corporate football club. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pfrd (talk • contribs) 17:39, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Save Guggul Movement

Respected Sir/Madam, I think that Save Guggul Movement is a conservation movement like the Green Belt Movement. It should not be merged into COmmiphora wightii. Commiphora wighrii weblink is allready provided in this page. Commiphora wighrii weblink page is focoused on the plant description, its botany and medicinal uses — Preceding unsigned comment added by NehaIndia (talk • contribs)

With respect, the Save Guggul Movement is focused on conserving a single species, the commiphora wightii, while the Green Belt Movement is a much more widely focused effort to promote "environmental conservation, community development and capacity building". (Quoted from the Green Belt Movement page.) Since the Save Guggul Movement's aim is so sharply focused, and since the only reason one would want to save the plant is because of its medicinal uses, it makes great sense to include the information about the plant conservation movement on the page about the plant, rather than in a completely separate article.

Because the discussion of this merge requires broader community input, I am going to copy these comments onto the appropriate talk page, so they can become part of the broader discussion. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 21:10, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Save Guggul Movement

I completetly agree with your views. It should be merged with Commiphora wightii... Should I merge it or you will do it sir? With warm regards

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Save Guggul Movement

So Sir/Madam, I should wait for the comments from others before merging the Save guggul movement in Commiphora wightii, Right????? Sir It was my first effort to make an article for wikipedia. How was it? I tried to give the authentic references and did by best to make a good article.