User talk:220 of Borg

Welcome to Wikipedia from HJ Mitchell

Hi, 220 of Borg. I welcome you to Wikipedia! Thank you for all of your edits. I hope you like editing here and being part of Wikipedia! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); when you save the page, this will turn into your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or put {{helpme}} (and what you need help with) on your talk page and someone will show up very soon to answer your questions. You also might want to consider being "adopted" by an experienced user who would show you how wikipedia works through a program called adopt-a-user. Again, welcome! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:57, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

G'day

Yeah, you know your way around, but I thought I'd leave you a template to get rid of the red link! ;) Now to give you everything I would have given you months ago but which the software won;t let me give to IPs! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:00, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

We'll start with the easy bits:

• You're confirmed, so no more CAPTCHA, you can move pages, edit semi-protected pages and I think there are a few other perks
• Rollback: You'll now have a little button next to undo that says "[rollback]"—makes whacking vandals much quicker (only vandals, mind—stick with undo for everything else)

You probably won't have much use for the other things I can give you, but if you ever have a burning desire to create vast numbers of articles or move images, I can help. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:06, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

November 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Danny Rios has been reverted.
Your edit here to Danny Rios was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline. The external link(s) you added or changed (http://tokyoyakultswallows.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/rios-suspended-for-doping/) is/are on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia.
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Speedy deletion declined: Atlantis Vertigo Rave

Hello 220 of Borg. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Atlantis Vertigo Rave, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 does not apply to raves. Thank you. SmartSE (talk) 19:45, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Ok! :-/. Is there any particular CSD criteria that does apply? I feel we may need a "This article sucks" criteria. ;-) --220 of ^Borg 05:33, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Bushwick

Yeah, the contributor is trying to erase the bad, yet factual history, and then to make it worse is trying to distort reality. Often time when trying to edit this particular page I encounter people like this. Even if you try to offer a rational solution or compromise they lash out. Unfortunately much like the wikipage the neighborhood itself has an identity crises. I am from the neighborhood and I would love to edit but my view would be biased too. But I will try to see if we can get somewhere with this contributor.--El Mayimbe (talk) 22:34, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Additionally, i think this contributor is perhaps an ip that made a profile for him/herself. If you look at the discussion page it is riddled with the same nonsense.--El Mayimbe (talk) 22:55, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your attention El Mayimbe. Indeed I saw some correlation between IP edits and the current situation. I was unsure about the value of the edits as, sometimes, apparently dubious edits such as these are removing vandalism/s or unsourced statements. AGF, but with your input, editors' failure to communicate, multiple section blanking, and as much of the deleted content was sourced this certainly seems not to be the case. As you feel ' involved' I would think that a full revert might be in order? But I see you have already boldly done so. I fully support your 'mega-revert' here. :)

I note that Bushwick, Brooklyn has nearly 300 page views per day, at least over the last 6 months. This seemed rather high to me, but Queens gets about 2,000, so it seems normal for these types of articles. Regards, 220 of ^Borg 03:11, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Nabuderian Pluridisciplinary Methodology for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Nabuderian Pluridisciplinary Methodology is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nabuderian Pluridisciplinary Methodology until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. andy (talk) 11:44, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for notification. I assume this note is only because I edited the page? - 220 of ^Borg 03:47, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

That's right - politeness is my middle name. andy (talk) 14:11, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Surprising, I didn't think politeness could be spelt with a 'j'. ;-)
• ps. I have "subst" your AfD template, otherwise when I attempt to edit this section, I end up editing the template. - 220 of ^Borg 14:35, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Eh?

Got an account, eh? HurricaneFan25 — 18:21, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Shhh! - 220 of ^Borg 18:36, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm quite sure it's "low-level circulation center". HurricaneFan25 — 18:57, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, page updated! Credits in the Edit Summary. How about sentence seven in the same para "On September 29, by the time Nesat managed to re-develop at 10 nautical miles (19 km; 12 mi) ragged eye," which also appears in the section Meteorological history, (secon para.) except it says "ab 10 nautical miles". - 220 of ^Borg 19:28, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

I think what it means is "By the time Nesat re-developed on September 29, a ragged eye with a diameter of 10 nautical miles (19 km; 12 mi)" — a ragged eye is basically an eye that is, well, ragged in appearance on satellite imagery. HurricaneFan25 — 19:56, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

After a few reads that's what I thought too! Fixed. - 220 of ^Borg 20:09, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Saab

Hi, Im not so expoert with Saab, but have to try keep on eye on that article, there seems to be lots of editors now when it went to bankruptcy -->Typ932 ^T·C 17:46, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Typ932, I have been back there since, and reverted an edit calling the company defunct. The general view, without actually discussing it on the articles talk page, seems to be is that this is a bit premature. Companies do trade out of bankruptcy/receivership or are bought by someone. Some IP editors seem to be very eager to bury the company (without sources!). You might want to cast your 'expoert' eye over the relevant section (Youngman#Saab) of the Youngman Page too. It seems more than a little out of date. Regards, 220 of ^Borg 18:09, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, 220 of Borg. You have new messages at Mr little irish's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Answered on your talk. --220 of ^Borg 02:02, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas

and

A Happy New Year to All

Please Click!

_{I am 220 of Borg. I partake in this human seasonal celebratory event in order to more successfully infiltrate the Wikipedia collective, facilitating the addition of it's technological distinctiveness to our own. Resistance is futile!. Oh, and Merry Christmas.}

Christchurch 2011 Earthquake

Dear 220 of Borg, Thankyou for your message and sorry for such a late reply.

- I have done some editing (also wrote what I have edited in the page) letting people know what I have done. I have also removed some information and made it my graph a simple one. - I had originally posted the earthquaks from September due to February actually being considered a Aftershock of the 2010 Earthquake, I have removed the September ones off the graph though, as It does not apply to the 2011 Earthquake. - All the facts and information that is on the page is from GNS Science, Earthquake programme "Geonet New Zealand" which is funded by the Earthquake commission in New Zealand. I have gotten all information from and only them. I have not used information from other sources, as Geonet is the New Zealand earthquake seismology and the Information they get is much more accurate then other places in the world.

If there is anything else in which you are unhappy with I'll be happy to read and will reply a.s.a.p, Rifled. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rifled (talk • contribs) 02:13, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

1. Thank you for replying Rifled (talk · contribs), though it may have been better to reply on your talk page to keep the conversation together. Don't worry about that, it doesn't really matter.
   
2. I did also drop a message at Wikipedia:WikiProject Earthquakes on the talkpage, asking for an editor more experienced in earthquakes to review your edits. I'm not sure anyone has even seen the message yet!
   
3. Thank you for the edit summaries. They don't have to be quite so long though! Common words such as "remove/d can" be contracted to "rmv" or even a minus sign "-". See Wikipedia:Edit summary legend for more abbreviations.
   
4. As for sources, what I care about is that when you make a change, it is easy for other editors to see why the change is being made ie. sourced figure has been updated, where it came from, and even when it was obtained (as some figures change frequently). The problem we have is that some vandals (whether 'registered' or 'IP' editors) delight in randomly changing figures. But if each figure or chart/table has a citation for it, then they can be verified much easier. The tools to do this are in your editing toolbar, at the far right where it says Cite. Click on that, go to the left side, click where it says Templates, select a template (probably cite web for your purposes, and then you merely need to fill in the various boxes. You can even "drag and drop" text from the sources page into the templates field boxes.
5. I have edited the source URL as it did not link to the actual page the data was on. I have also added a cite for the "Canterbury region long-term probabilities" charts. [diffs]
   
6. Signing your talkpage comment does not mean typing in "Rifled". You either type in ~~~~ (which the software automatically converts to your signature when you save or preview it), or use the signature button on the editing toolbar above the editing window, which just enters the four tildes anyway. - 220 of ^Borg 09:56, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi thanks for your messages, I must say I'm not a expert at wikipedia but I am experienced in Earthquakes, my only problem is im not 100% familiar with wikipedia, and thus I must apologise and your messages are helping me do it right. Please message me if theres something I need doing. I am currently looking at how wikipedia is used, to help me in the future. Rifled (talk) 11:52, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

You are very welcome. I am glad that I have helped you. One of our 'behavioral guidelines' is "Don't bite the newbies". I seem to have suceeded!

• My best suggestion is to just look around the articles that interest you and look out for errors, or the need for updates. Also look out for vandalism and learn how to revert it. You can pick pages to watch using your watchlist.

• When editing use an informative (not too long!) edit summary.

• Don't be too eager to write a new article. Many new editors do that as their first edit to WP and get a nasty shock when it is very quickly deleted. You have started learning what is needed for an article to be encyclopaedic. There is still more to learn!

• If earthquakes are a special interest then I would suggest joining WikiProject Earthquakes.

I hope you had a good Christmas. I am available to help you any time I am on-line. You can also get help at Wikipedia:New contributors' help page. Or type {{helpme}} on your talk page, and an editor will visit you there to try to help you! - 220 of ^Borg 12:54, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Thankyou my Wikipedia teacher! :) I had a great christmas, and I wish you the same for you and your family, I have started making edit summaries shorter, (eg, saying "rmvd" instead of removed) I shall look at those help pages now, thankyou for your time, Merry Christmas! Rifled (talk) 21:54, 26 December 2011 (UTC) (2 indents added by 220 of ^Borg)

No worries! One small thing though, I have added 2 indents to your post as it is the standard practice on Wikipædia(WP) to indent succeeding posts in order to make it a bit easier to read. You do this with a leading colon mark :. Each one adds another indent:

Like this! (four colons) :::: text

and this! (five colons)::::: text

You will also see that I have left a little note to say what I have done. Usually though it is very much frowned upon to alter another editors comments. (And even changing your own comments if you already have a reply and you change the meaning of your post).

• If an editor makes a mistaken accusation, even a warning template in error, then they may 'strike-through' it thus: <s>You are a bum</s> to produce You are a bum, rather than just deleting it. This indicates that the comment is withdrawn while preserving the 'history' of the discussion. Admins may revision delete a particularly offensive comment or prohibited material, even from the pages edit history, if required. See also Talk Page Guidelines. 220 of ^Borg 03:27, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Merry Christmas to you, too!

Thanks for that! I hope your festive season is merry and bright too :) Grutness...wha? 00:04, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

I will be able to enjoy this Christmas pud, at least until the Borg implants take over fully! (Strangely, the decorative plastic berries and leaves on top seem particularly tempting! ) - 220 of ^Borg 04:22, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Argh! Looks like you emailed me... but I stupidly deleted the message before I could read it! Grutness...wha? 01:03, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Foolish human ;-). Data retransmitted. 10 10 00 of ^Borg 01:28, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Re: MIA

I wasn't aware that I was considered missing! :O That's perfectly fine. I hope you enjoy the rest of your holidays! Thanks, NiciVampireHeart 06:23, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Good, but you were 'absent' for at least 6 months! (At least you weren't editing from that account.) Unfortunately, I also added to the list admin TFOWR (talk · contribs) who has now been MIA over 12 months! At least one notable editor (80K edits) has 'left', or at least abandoned their account for reasons I don't know, in late November. - 220 of ^Borg 06:54, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi there

A belated Merry Christmas from me. About time you got an account too ;) —James ^{(Talk • Contribs)} • 6:04pm • 08:04, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

I've only been here since 11-11-11. The data says so, it's on the Internet ∴ (therefore) it is correct! ;-) Beware of 'outing' editors, you may be Doomed by an Ancient Apparition. :-| - 220 of ^Borg 09:03, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Haha, oh that's brilliant. Good to have you among our ranks ;) sorry for the belated response, I haven't been free to do any serious editing :S —James ^{(Talk • Contribs)} • 12:27am • 14:27, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

(P-Þ - 220 of ^Borg 14:46, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Sarin attack

Glad you found it useful. Your changes are perfectly fine. Thanks for letting me know. wiki-ny-2007 (talk) 04:57, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

It was a very good find. It also cleared up a misconception I had about the wanted poster already in the article. Until I looked at it closely I thought that it showed 6 people, whereas it actually appears to be 3 photos, with 3 police(?) drawings of the same people. The Metro Police poster clued me onto this. (Funny they haven't removed Hirata from it yet, perhaps pending formal identification?)

And how does a 183cm (6'0") tall Japanese hide for so long? P-/ 220 of ^Borg 05:13, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

A Solid Knock

Ok sir i am agree with you but problem with editing is that writing on wikipedia is too much controlled and regulated. I do not know why other users look for so much the extent of rightness in already right thing.There tens of wiki are there which simply shows that they are not neutral, they directly so the user relation with that religion,place,person why do n't you neutralize them.I am reading them from long time. First thing is that its too much difficult to decide which word will be better I do not know that "impressed" word was ok or not at place of "attracted" but what i can do, i think there is no else popular " young sufi singer" in india. And for that city that sentence was very very important. Secondly i do not understand if you know what is right and what is wrong why don't you made correction instead of deletion or reversion. I am on wikipedia since last one year but posting of such messages on user page and reversion is really bothering. Some one add text for information not for entertainment or publicity it should be understood by top users.

A man from Matrix (talk) 21:09, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello Dharam00000007 (aka A man from Matrix}

When you reply to a note on your talkpage it is a good idea to make it clear what you are talking about, by linking to the article concerned, which in this case appears to be Punahana. I have tried to answer your questions (numbered) below.

1. Wikipedia is an Encyclopædia not just a 'wiki', that is why it is "much controlled and regulated".
2. I do not want to dissuade you from contributing to English Wikipedia (enWP), but if you have trouble editing WP in English, then perhaps there is a WP in your native language that you may find more suitable? You say elsewhere you have only been studying English for 2 years, so that is a barrier to your editing here. On the other hand you have knowledge that India related articles need that I will never have. So that is an area that you can almost certainly help En:WP with.
3. It is irrelevant that "for that city that sentence was very very important". What is important is wp:verifiability and wp:notability. If you cannot find a source to show a persons notability then it seems that they are not notable, and therefore should not be on WP. When such text about a living person is added to a page it MUST have a reliable source. You may know it is true, but you have to be able to verify your knowledge. Far too much complete rubbish ie. untrue, defamatory, badly biased and nearly impossible to understand text is added to many articles.
4. I am a fairly normal (possibly 'middle' ranking) user as I have been editing regularly on Wikipedia since September 2009. I started by just wandering around articles that seemed of interest and either correcting minor mistakes, or updating out of date text. I then spent a lot of time fixing references and then got more involved in current events. You have relatively few edits, so I suggest that you look around WP and do as I did. This is very important work.
5. I have not even, on my own created an entirely new article, though I have a few drafts floating around. But because of the time I have waited I know how to do it correctly. I see that you created a new article on your 4th edit. Nothing to stop you doing that, though it has been discussed and I think it is a bad idea because many new editors have no idea how to do it 'properly'.

• On an unrelated matter your username is problematic. I think it is far too long, why so many (seven)zeros? Dharam seems to be a fairly common part of many usernames but Dharam 7 is available. You can get a user name change, if you like. See Wikipedia:Changing username (I see from your edits you already know this, and have also been advised by another editor to alter your username)
• Secondly your signature is slightly deceptive. I assume good faith here, but your sig. says "A man from Matrix". If it said "Dharam from Matrix" so it slightly resembled your username it would be better. Please see wp:Signature for more details. The relevant section says "Signatures which include no reference to the user's username (for example by signing with a nickname, as in User:Nickname) are strongly discouraged, as it can be confusing for editors (particularly newcomers). The actual username always appears in the page history, so using just the nickname on the relevant talk page can make it appear to be a different person." which is at Wikipedia:Signatures#Dealing with signatures' behaviour issues.
• Finally, It is not necessary to refer to any editor by the honorific title "Sir".

- 220 of ^Borg 16:07, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks

Based on its current state, it's pretty clear that 2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks needs some serious work. I've started a discussion about how to go forward at Talk:2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks#One cleanup possibility, and you're invited to participate. Thanks in advance, Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 05:33, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Dori,

Sorry for late reply. I have just got back from giving YummyDonutsmmm (talk · contribs) a spray [DIFF] for removing maintenance templates without addressing the issues. Some were actually restored before I finished my 'rant'. They seem to be overly concerned with their DYK nomination ie "(removed tags for DYK nomination)" [DIFF]. I also strongly suggested that they should listen to experienced editors (mentioning your and Bar Code Symmetrys' edit counts, hope that was ok :-/ ). I may now be trouted for biteing a noob!  :-o

 • I'm not sure that I want anything to do with the page, considering the state it is in.
I am (AGF fail) suspicious about the number of 'new' accounts that are editing the article. Three have come in, 5-6 edits to this page are their only edits then gone, seems odd! Even using edit summaries. (Spidey senses tingling!) On a second look all their edits were related to the arrested persons. (Harry and Dorothee Burkhart) Odd. - 220 of ^Borg 09:53, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

I see now you have welcomed 2 of my aforementioned 'suspects'. ;-) --220 of ^Borg 10:02, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

The more I thought about your suspicion, the worse it smelled to me—enough that I've now opened WP:Sockpuppet investigations/YummyDonutsmmm. Please feel free to add your thoughts there, as well. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 02:06, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know DoriSmith. Looks like a real 'can of sockpuppets' may have been opened! I was tempted to just ask YummyDonutsmmm if they knew that sockpuppeting was not allowed. BTW the article actually looks much better now, courtesy of Bdell555 (talk · contribs). Regards, - 220 of ^Borg 02:36, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you

You wrote a long paragraph to make me understand, thanks for that.I was having many queries and I asked few question from two three users but they are like robots. They behave like very professional persons. I don't know what's wrong in sharing information with others ;because they are approved good users.I am thankful to you that you replied in really good descriptive manner. I have many constraints.Everything is achievable but it just need time and lot of practice I was trying them in short time that is my mistake.But whatever I am writing on WP is just for information, knowledge and convenience. Because the area I have covered in my edits is the most backward area of India so I was trying to highlight these areas because I don't think it will be done by someone in the future. People here don't believe in study and area is full of illiterate people, no bus services,inferior roads, no power supply. But this area is part of India's most developed state.The information I am sharing hardly have any reference because no one bothers about these people and area so without reference information is useless (a/c to WP). But that sufi singer definitely having many references. As far as my name is concerned ,there is no need to worry about that because I will be no longer here on WP for edits to disturb the status of elite panel of WP. And I am sorry for my poor command over English language. It's not my tongue language and I started learning it few years ago.

Thank You Very Much.

A man from Matrix (talk) 17:51, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Well I hope you find a place at another Wikipedia. It appears there is not a Hindi one, but I am not sure. Look here http://www.wikipedia.org/ for a list of other languages. - 220 of ^Borg 18:01, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Reply to message

Hello. I received you e-mail where you notificated my inclusion in the Missing Wikipedians list. It's true that I haven't been active as an editor for a while. However, I continue to enjoy reading Wikipedia every few days. I reply to all messages I receive on my user page. I don't know if this qualifies me as missing or not. Maybe missing is different from inactive. Anyway, All the best, Anna Lincoln 12:45, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Very nice to hear from you Anna!. If you wish I will remove you from the list.(unless you want to do it yourself?) Perhaps you need a Wiki-break message on your page? Regards, 220 of ^Borg 12:54, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Carterton hot air balloon accident

Sorry for the delayed response...but yes, happy to be of help. Personally, I think it meets the notability requirement. And I think the title's fine as is. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:51, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately another page on the accident was started just59 minutes before mine, and 'my' page got re-directed to 2012 Carterton hot air balloon crash. - 220 of ^Borg 17:58, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Rafha Domestic Airport

aggh, that person is such a pest. I did around 20 corrective edits last night and I checked over many more that both you, User:Hawaiian717 and others did as well. That info box slipped past me. I did not keep a record of all the IPs being used but this person has been engaging in mischief editing with a clear and discernible pattern and style. On some of the articles it goes well back into december. I assume it is an established editor who has gone feral. I noted some standard corrective edits mixed in with earlier mischief edits. Some of the erroneous content is quite well disguised. Good work with all your clean ups, and thanks for saying hello. I hope this person soon sorts out whatever aircraft and airline information demons that have found their way into their cranial cavity. -- Felix (talk) 04:30, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

AGF! As far back as September 2011 actually I think. They also seem to have an interest in TV station pages, but not recently. I am just now finishing a Google translated note to 'Utilisateur:Noel.guillet' on Fr:wp as they have created some new airport pages recently and appear to have copied some false airport information from our en:WP pages. - 220 of ^Borg 04:44, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I will correct this mad things.Noel.guillet (talk) 07:24, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Subtle Vandalism Taskforce

Thank you for your post. I think that SVT is largely dormant, however I know that a few people actively watch the page, including me. I'll definitely take a look at the link you posted. This is exactly the sort of thing that SVT was created for. Thanks again. Shadowjams (talk) 23:04, 13 January 2012 (UTC)