Talk:Population exchange between Poland and Soviet Ukraine: Difference between revisions

Content deleted Content added

Inline

Revision as of 12:34, 9 March 2012

Poland Start‑class Mid‑importance

	Poland portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Poland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Poland on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PolandWikipedia:WikiProject PolandTemplate:WikiProject PolandPoland articles
Start	This article has been rated as Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Soviet Union Start‑class Mid‑importance

	Soviet Union portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Soviet Union, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Soviet UnionWikipedia:WikiProject Soviet UnionTemplate:WikiProject Soviet UnionSoviet Union articles
Start	This article has been rated as Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Ukraine Start‑class Mid‑importance

	Ukraine portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ukraine, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Ukraine on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.UkraineWikipedia:WikiProject UkraineTemplate:WikiProject UkraineUkraine articles
Start	This article has been rated as Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Batch rename for all World War II evacuation and expulsion articles

Articles on those subjects are chaotically and confusingly named. Please see a proposal to standardize all names here. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 16:57, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in process

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:World War II evacuation and expulsion which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RFC bot 01:01, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Recent name move

So the only reason I've noticed that User:Corinna Caudill has recently moved this page to "Forcible Expulsion" from "Repatriation" is because s/he has accused me of putting the word "repatriation" in this article despite the fact that so far I have never edited it. Putting that, as well as some other sketchy stuff aside, there was in fact a very long discussion about appropriate names for this and other articles [1]. The result, somewhat unsurprisingly, was "no consensus". Hence this recent move was against consensus.

As it happens I actually sort of agree with the current title (though I think the word "Forcible" is not necessary there) so I'm still considering whether or not to reverse this move myself.VolunteerMarek 23:25, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I, too took no part in the prior discussion, but also feel that Expulsion is a more accurate title and would support the current title over the prior one. "Forcible Expulsion" is redundant: all expulsions are forcible, by definition. I think we may have something approaching consensus here. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) | DR goes to Wikimania! 03:16, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Corinna, would you be okay with just naming this article "Expulsion of Ukrainians from Poland to the Soviet Union". The "Forcible" is sort of redundant - it's pretty obvious that when somebody expels somebody, that is usually done forcibly. Let's keep in mind that we're having a little "local consensus" here which may or may not be contrary to broader consensus as established at the discussion so keeping the title neutral is a good idea.VolunteerMarek 03:19, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Use of word the forcible is redundant. Expultion ... mmm. I would prefer a softer term, because I do not think that all of the population was forced. Also the word expultion tends to bring up POV tags. Bandurist (talk) 12:34, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Revision as of 03:19, 9 March 2012 edit Volunteer Marek (talk \| contribs) Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users, Pending changes reviewers, Rollbackers 93,496 edits →‎Recent name move ← Previous edit		Revision as of 12:34, 9 March 2012 edit undo Bandurist (talk \| contribs) Extended confirmed users 9,321 edits →‎Recent name move Next edit →
Line 18:		Line 18:

	::Corinna, would you be okay with just naming this article "Expulsion of Ukrainians from Poland to the Soviet Union". The "Forcible" is sort of redundant - it's pretty obvious that when somebody expels somebody, that is usually done forcibly. Let's keep in mind that we're having a little "local consensus" here which may or may not be contrary to broader consensus as established at the discussion so keeping the title neutral is a good idea.[[User:Volunteer Marek\|<font color="Orange">Volunteer</font><font color="Blue">Marek</font>]] 03:19, 9 March 2012 (UTC)		::Corinna, would you be okay with just naming this article "Expulsion of Ukrainians from Poland to the Soviet Union". The "Forcible" is sort of redundant - it's pretty obvious that when somebody expels somebody, that is usually done forcibly. Let's keep in mind that we're having a little "local consensus" here which may or may not be contrary to broader consensus as established at the discussion so keeping the title neutral is a good idea.[[User:Volunteer Marek\|<font color="Orange">Volunteer</font><font color="Blue">Marek</font>]] 03:19, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

			Use of word the forcible is redundant. Expultion ... mmm. I would prefer a softer term, because I do not think that all of the population was forced. Also the word expultion tends to bring up POV tags. [[User:Bandurist\|Bandurist]] ([[User talk:Bandurist\|talk]]) 12:34, 9 March 2012 (UTC)