Talk:Jomo Kenyatta International Airport

Any body knows anything about the airports construction?

just crashes?

it would be good to have more history on the airport, not only plane crashes

In fact there are some accidents not yet mentioned. I remember two early 90's crashes near the airport (I think both were cargo planes). But you are right, certainly there could be more meaningful information about its history, especially early years. But that kind kind of information is not readily available. Julius Sahara 20:02, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Now I have figured out those chrashes I could remember (Somali Airways and Sudania). But the history section is still awfully short. Julius Sahara 18:01, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

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Airlock in the jet fuel pipeline really notable?

Alright, the airport was completely shut down, but in my opinion this should be treated like, say, a bad weather closure. I don't consider this a notable "accident or incident".--FoxyOrange (talk) 14:19, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

No issues from me in placing it in the History section. Bad weather is bad weather. An infrastructure screw-up that shuts down ops at the airport is notable if only for that very reason - it's rare. Blackwarrior (talk) 17:22, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

2013 terminal building fire: In "history" or "accidents/incidents" section?

In my opinion, the "acc/inc" section should be devoted to aviation occurrences. The fire should rather be treated at the history section. What are your thoughts? Take Ben Gurion Airport as an example: Hijackings or the airport massacre are treated at the history section.--FoxyOrange (talk) 14:19, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Concur. Blackwarrior (talk) 17:24, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Well, that's what I get for editing and then checking the talk page, I just added some info on the fire to that section... Beeblebrox (talk) 01:34, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Use of faulty primary sources

I am going to challenge a faulty primary source in the article. It seems that some users think that an "official" website that gives a location that points to some dirt near a taxiway is "correct" and that pointing to the main terminal (or the control tower) is erroneous. The onus is on whoever wants to use the primary source to demonstrate that it is not faulty. Abductive (reasoning) 05:52, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Actually, the onus is on you to show why it can't be used, especially when coming from a competent national aviation authority overseen by a competent aviation regulatory body (the ICAO). The onus is on you to demonstrate that the location being referenced by the "official" source, be it an airport reference point or the point where elevation readings are collected, is faulty, or that there is an ICAO regulation that shows that an official site must reference the location of the terminal. Blackwarrior (talk) 16:50, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

I'll bet you know that the ICAO has just such a requirement. Abductive (reasoning) 22:05, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not about judging the sources, but to use them to comply with a policy. IMO, the official source prevails.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 19:24, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Verify? Is it not the terminal? And Wikipedia is 100% about judging the sources. Abductive (reasoning) 22:05, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Nasair service

Can someone please make Blackwarrior (talk · contribs) understand that WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT does not require sourcing for current destinations? I don't think this revert was appropriate, but I won't war on it.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 19:12, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

You can leave the snark at home. You may want to help "others" understand, because that entry was deleted by someone else for, wait for it, being unsourced (check the edit history). If your issue was point 10, your reason for removing the source could've easily been "source not needed per point 10." I added the source as a backup since someone else obviously doesn't know the rule, either. Would've saved you the typing of making two entries (here and on my page). Nevertheless, the source is removed. Blackwarrior (talk) 20:32, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

I never said the entry was unsourced, what I wrote was "Definitely not a reliable source. We don't normally source current services either". The last part of my edit summary is exactly what point 10 says, but you're right I should have pointed at it in the edit summary.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:14, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

For clarification's sake, I didn't say that YOU said it was unsourced. Quite the contrary: "that entry was deleted by someone else for, wait for it, being unsourced." If I thought it was you, I would've named you. Just didn't feel like digging through the terminal fire edits to find the actual edit that deleted it. I'm not accusing you of making the initial delete. Blackwarrior (talk) 21:34, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, sorry for the misunderstanding. Matter settled, hopefully.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:36, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Actually, it's not settled. Wikipedia requires sourcing when data has been challenged or removed, or both. The standards of the airport project cannot override that policy. I have added back the source. AfricaTanz (talk) 21:50, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Then, start adding sources for the rest of the current services. The policies are followed entirely, or not followed at all. I once raised this matter at WT:AIRPORTS, but the discussion didn't bore fruit. Wanna try?--Jetstreamer ^Talk 22:12, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Notability of article content

Whether particular article content is "notable" is irrelevant. Refer to WP:NNC for more information. AfricaTanz (talk) 21:57, 8 August 2013 (UTC)