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Frequently asked questions

This FAQ page may be developed or changed over time.

Q1. Why was I invited to the discussion?

You have been listed by a filing editor in hopes that the discussion of content can be continued here with the guidance of a volunteer. You do not have to participate but are encouraged to.

Q2. Are resolutions enforceable?

The dispute resolution noticeboard is informal, and resolutions formed here are neither binding nor enforceable. DR/N relies on all involved parties to self-enforce the agreed upon resolution. Should the dispute continue with all or some involved parties ignoring the resolutions that they participated in, this may be considered as part of the next step of the DR process. Editors who continue a dispute after accepting a resolution may be perceived as disruptive by refusing to engage collaboratively on consensus.

Q3. If resolutions are not binding, why should I participate?

Wikipedia only works when editors collaborate to form a consensus. Discussion is as important in the editing process as editing itself. While participation is not a requirement at DR/N, refusing participation can be perceived as a refusal to collaborate, and is not conducive to consensus-building.

Q4. How long does a case last?

It depends on the dispute, but ideally no more than a week. Volunteers will attempt to resolve disputes as fast and as thoroughly as possible. A case can remain opened for longer than a week, if the participants are nearing a compromise.

Q5. Why are the volunteers not responding to my case?

The noticeboard has to handle a large number of cases, despite having only a small pool of volunteers. Some volunteer editors will not open a case if they are uncomfortable with or unfamiliar with the subject matter. The bot will flag the case after a set period of time if a volunteer's attention is still required.

Q6. Why was I asked to step back from a discussion?

Participants who go off-topic or become uncivil may be asked step back from the discussion if warnings for disruptive behavior go unheeded. This is to keep the discussions civil and focused on the goal or resolution and discourage further disputes from arising out of the DR/N filing. Generally an editor will recieve a warning first and will be given the opportunity to contribute in a civil and respectful manner. Should warnings not be heeded, comments may be collapsed and/or personal attacks removed entirely in some cases after warnings as well.

Q7. What is the role of a volunteer?

Volunteers are editors that assist in resolving disputes as neutral third parties. Volunteers do not have any special powers, privileges, or authority on the noticeboard or on Wikipedia.

Q8. Are there any requirements for volunteering?

No. All editors on Wikipedia are invited and encouraged to participate. The noticeboard is always looking for new volunteers.

Q9. Why are disputes over an editor's conduct not allowed?

Other boards are better equipped to handle behavioral disputes. Conduct disputes should be directed to formal arbitration in extreme cases, or If you need immediate assistance or intervention from administration, use the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents or Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard.

Q10. Why was my case closed?

The noticeboard is only for content disputes that have been extensively discussed. Conduct disputes, disputes with no discussion, and disputes that are already under discussion at other dispute resolution forums, should not be brought to DRN. However, don't be afraid to post a request, if it's outside of the noticeboard's scope, our volunteers will point you in the right direction.

Q11. Why is prior discussion required?

The dispute resolution noticeboard is not a substitution for talk pages. Editors must attempt to resolve the dispute between themselves before seeking outside help as part of a collaborative effort to form consensus.

Q12. How extensive should the prior discussion be?

While time may not be a deciding factor, discussions that have only gone on for a day, and/or consist of only one or two responses, do not qualify as extensive. Edit summaries are not considered discussions.
While we accept disputes with discussions on individual user talkpages, discussions that focus on editor conduct or that only involve a minority of the dispute's participants may not qualify as extensive.
It is always recommended that discussions on content take place on the relevant article talkpage to involve as many editors as possible to form a local consensus for the subject. Sometimes editors will request discussion on their own talkpage in order not to disrupt the flow of other discussions on the subjects talkpage when a dispute is between only a small group or just two contributors.

Q13. The other editor refuses to discuss. What should I do?

Repeatedly refusing to discuss changes, especially controversial ones, is considered a conduct issue and should be brought to the administrator's noticeboard. Although Wikipedia supports bold editing, refusing to discuss can be problematic and is discouraged by Wikipedia's editing policy.

Open DRN cases

Case		Created		Last volunteer edit		Last modified
Title	Status	User	Time	User	Time	User	Time
Wolf	Closed	Nagging Prawn (t)	29 days, 8 hours	Robert McClenon (t)	12 hours	Robert McClenon (t)	12 hours
Face masks during the COVID-19 pandemic	In Progress	Randomstaplers (t)	25 days, 12 hours	Robert McClenon (t)	12 hours	Randomstaplers (t)	11 hours
Double-slit experiment	Closed	Johnjbarton (t)	8 days, 15 hours	Robert McClenon (t)	23 hours	Robert McClenon (t)	23 hours
List of musicals filmed live on stage	Closed	Wolfdog (t)	7 days, 2 hours	Robert McClenon (t)	12 hours	Robert McClenon (t)	12 hours
Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, Zsa Zsa Gabor	New	PromQueenCarrie (t)	5 days, 16 hours	Robert McClenon (t)	13 hours	Last1in (t)	4 hours
Genocides in history (before World War I)	New	Jonathan f1 (t)	22 hours	Robert McClenon (t)	12 hours	Cdjp1 (t)	4 hours

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Referrals to Mediation Committee redux

There is a policy change being voted upon by the members of the Mediation Committee here which, if it passes, will allow that committee to consider taking cases which have not first passed through some other form of dispute resolution, though MedCom will retain a extensive talk page discussion prerequisite as we have here at DRN. The proposal allows the committee to decline cases which they feel would benefit from DR at a lower level. If the proposal does pass, we here at DRN should probably reconsider making quick referrals of complex or multiparty matters to MedCom, rather than spending substantial time on them here. What "quick referrals" means needs to be worked out, but in keeping with the founding purposes of DRN I think that it ought to include the possibility of immediate referral without any attempt at DR here (and perhaps even going so far as having a DRN volunteer list it at MedCom). I do not, however, believe that such "bare" referrals should be mandatory upon DRN volunteers. Thoughts? Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 15:26, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is a good idea, but with some reservations. I think that DRN or another process should act as a sorter of cases, and quickly refer disputes to MedCom, rather than make MedCom a free-for-all. It could see an influx of frivolous cases at MedCom, and I think this should be taken into account. I'd be happy to have a volunteer list disputes at MedCom, but think a referral-type form should be created by MedCom to make it easier for a volunteer. Steven Zhang ^{Help resolve disputes!} 00:27, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Remington Model_870#Washington_Navy_Yard_Massacre

The talk page of the filing editor indicates that this user is editing from the Department of Homeland Security. They have also filed an AN/I complaint against an editor involved. The discussion on the article talk page does appear to be little more than incivility accusations from the IP editor against the registered editor being complained about at AN/I. I suggest this request be closed as no extensive discussion and suggest that the IP editor resolve the AN/I before they attempt to file here again. One venue at a time. I would also note that the IP editor may have a COI on the subject making it inappropriate for them to be editing the article in question.--Mark Miller (talk) 20:14, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with closing for several reasons. First, there's not been enough Talk page discussion yet. Second, as you mention, nearly all the Talk page discussion that is there isn't actually even on the topic, it's just bickering. Third, the stated goal of the filer is to 'get an outside look' which can be accomplished with a WP:3O or an WP:RFC. Side note, yes the IP is registered to Homeland Security but I can't see how exactly that would constitute a COI for this dispute. Zad68 20:37, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Possible COI would involve a government agency that may be in direct control of an investigation into a criminal act, a person who is paid to agree with a set talking point etc, and other various possible reasons. Not that they can't edit Wikipedia, just that that department may be in conflict where the subject relates to areas they oversee/or have concern with such as the Washington Navy Yard.--Mark Miller (talk) 23:28, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute : Hridayeshwar Singh Bhati

Respected Sir i never with drew from the dispute resolution filed by me. I only mentioned i have no stamina left to bear insults and degrading of the subject. I demand justice Sir. Further instead of giving justice the people involved in the dispute had started Vendetta. All sections of talk page has gone to archives. Further they have started raising new issues against the subject after that dispute, which they them self accepted initially. I invite you to visit the article Hridayeshwar Singh Bhati for same The dispute filed by me was "Talk page of the article "Hridayeshwar Singh Bhati", Talk page of the editors themselves in discussion about the subject of the article, NeilN, Yunshui, Ihardlythinkso, Myself, Subject." I beg you and feel sorry if any language of mine was considered as with drawing of dispute Regards Sarower Sigh Bhati (talk) 07:20, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How to file new request?

I'd like to file a request for dispute resolution but i don't understand what to do.Timothy.lucas.jaeger (talk) 16:04, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just to add some more info on the problem, when i click the "Request dispute resolution" button i get taken here but it just appears as a blank page. I looked on the talk page and it sound like some javascript is supposed to fire, but its not. I tried turning Twinkle on in preferences-->Gadgets but that didn't seem to make any difference. Timothy.lucas.jaeger (talk) 18:58, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It should be working...check if you have javascript enabled in your browser? Steven Zhang ^{Help resolve disputes!} 10:47, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nope it doesn't work for me. I have javascript enabled. No matter; i've dropped the dispute i was going to post due to lack of time. Timothy.lucas.jaeger (talk) 05:20, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Notifications

I don't think that the bot is handling notifications properly at the moment. Eg: I got no notification of this or of this but did get notice of this. In addition, should it be part of the process that a general notification is inserted on the article talk page? In part, just in case someone accidentally omits a participant from the list? - Sitush (talk) 17:17, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bot not working (or I'm not working)

Hi;

I've taken up the Palestinian War case for teh purpose of resolving the dispute (the one with Ykantor and Pluto2012 as parties). I took it up last night, and, AFAIK, I am still listed as a volunteer in the "active" list. However, the bot hasn't updated the table to show that the case is open and is being attended to by a volunteer. --The Historian (talk) 20:29, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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 I don't think that the bot is handling notifications properly at the moment. Eg: I got no notification of [[Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Narendra_Modi|this]] or of [[Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Aam Aadmi Party|this]] but did get notice of [[Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Delhi_state_assembly_elections.2C_2013|this]]. In addition, should it be part of the process that a general notification is inserted on the article talk page? In part, just in case someone accidentally omits a participant from the list? - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 17:17, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
+== Bot not working (or I'm not working) ==
+Hi;
+I've taken up the Palestinian War case for teh purpose of resolving the dispute (the one with Ykantor and Pluto2012 as parties). I took it up last night, and, AFAIK, I am still listed as a volunteer in the "active" list. However, the bot hasn't updated the table to show that the case is open and is being attended to by a volunteer. --[[User:Thehistorian10|The Historian]] ([[User talk:Thehistorian10|talk]]) 20:29, 28 September 2013 (UTC)