User talk:Atethnekos

I put my edit on the talk page for days but no response. The you go and unilaterally revert it even without discussion. What's a matter with you! This is why I stopped contributing 2 years ago. You guys act like some kind of god.

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	For your excellent VisualEditor contributions, and the endless stream of fascinating and finnicky bugs :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 16:54, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Atethnekos. You have new messages at WP:RDH#Name of an island.
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Nyttend (talk) 12:02, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

The new face of DRN: Atethnekos

Recently the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard underwent some changes in how it operates. Part of the change involved a new list of volunteers with a bit of information about the people behind the names.

You are listed as a volunteer at DRN currently, to update your profile is simple, just click here. Thanks, Cabe6403^{(Talk•Sign)} 17:04, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Review someday

I am really impressed with the level of professionalism and depth of knowledge you have shown on the Gospel of Matthew and some of the noticeboards recently. I would very much appreciate it if you would review the Gospel of the Ebionites article after this ongoing conduct issue is resolved. I tried to bring the article up to a high level of quality to create an editing environment where scholars rush in but Randy fears to tread, rather than the opposite case which is typical of this sub-category. I hope you will consider being part of a small informal group of editors that will look after and further improve the article. Thanks. Ignocrates (talk) 17:48, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey, thanks, but I can't claim any level of professionalism or great depth of knowledge. I do have access to sources though, and I try my best to stick to those. (I fear at times I may be one of Randy's enablers.) I'm watching the article and will be glad to chime in when I can. --Atethnekos (Discussion, Contributions) 01:40, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

STiki emergency

• You might want to go back through and replace all of your template calls with {{subst:upgradestiki}} so that people can respond on their talk page and won't edit the template. Just an idea, and I would be happy to fire up AWB and do that for you tomorrow upon request. :) Technical 13 (talk) 00:33, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought about redoing it; but I don't think it is a good idea, because then all these people get another notification for something they have already seen. The template is fully protected now, so only admins could actually make the mistaken edit, and the template does say to go to Wikipedia talk:STiki#Errors in order to respond. If you think it would be a good idea though, you are of course free to do it. If you or others convince me to go back despite the double notification thing, I would gladly do so as well. Maybe I'll apply for AWB abilities. I've definitely learned my lesson though. --Atethnekos (Discussion, Contributions) 00:42, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

• • I see that Mr. Stradivarius has already set AnomieBOT loose on subst: these. :) If you have 500 non-bot mainspace edits, you probably qualify for AWB permissions and you can apply. Technical 13 (talk) 12:56, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Teamwork Barnstar

I just wanted to thank you for organizing the community notification of the forced WP:STiki software upgrade. It's never fun when the WMF forces a change on us from above without notification, but I feel like we've reacted as quickly as possible -- and your initiative and efforts were/are/will be helpful in keeping anti-damage efforts rolling forward. West.andrew.g (talk) 23:55, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Congrats!

	The Anti-Vandalism + STiki Barnstar
	Congratulations, Atethnekos! You're receiving this barnstar because you recently crossed the 1,000 classification threshold using STiki. We thank you both for your contributions to Wikipedia at-large and your use of the tool. We hope you continue your ascent up the leaderboard and stay in touch at the talk page. Thank you and keep up the good work! West.andrew.g (developer) and -- t numbermaniac c 06:47, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Using Primary Sources

It is not entirely against WP rules to cite "Primary Sources." As a rule of practice, one should cite only reliable "Secondary Sources." However, "Primary Sources" can still be used occasionally. According to WP:PSTS, "Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources and primary sources." The wording here makes it clear that it is still permissible to use "Primary Sources" if the situation calls for it. Davidbena (talk) 11:16, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Quote from Duling, p. 302, and a rebuttal

If this interpretation of Papias is correct, there are several historical problems. First, modern specialists in language hold that the author of Matthew wrote in Greek, not Hebrew or Aramaic. Second, most scholars accept the Two-Source theory (see Chapter 15, "The Synoptic Problem," in this volume). This theory requires that the author of Matthew knew and used Greek versions of Mark and Greek Q as sources. Third, the gospel contains sayings and sayings collections, but is itself not a collection of sayings such as Proverbs or The Gospel of Thomas. In short, Papias' description does not correspond well with the New Testament.

— Duling, p. 302

I beg to differ for the following reasons:

1. - Papias' opinion about the authorship of the original Matthew and, subsequently, later translations of the Aramaic text, is not bound by what modern scholars think or do not think about the canonical Gospel's authorship. The two are not necessarily connected.
2. - As for "specialists in language" who examined the canonical text of the Gospel of Matthew, their findings may have indeed been true about the canonical Gospel of Matthew (the Greek Evangelion). A Greek speaker may have transcribed it and may have been familiar with proper Greek usages and idioms in light of the Aramaic text. This, too, has no real bearing on the original book of Matthew which Papias spoke about. As a professional translator, I have often translated Hebrew idioms into a colloquial English that could be understood by the reader, rather than translate idioms verbatim, and which would be senseless to the reader. It is not inconceivable to think that the author of the canonical Gospel of Matthew did the same thing (IMHO).
3. - As for the "Synoptic Problem," and the author's acquaintance with at least the Gospel of Mark and/or the Gospel of Luke, this problem can only be ascribed to the author who spoke Greek and who transcribed the book from his available sources - be they Greek, Latin or Aramaic sources. Again, the author of the Aramaic Gospel of Matthew cannot be linked to this "Synoptic Problem," since the Synoptic Problem is only concerned with the relationship between the Greek Gospels themselves, and no more.Davidbena (talk) 18:06, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

intelligent design collecting thoughts

Hi. I shall make a broader announcement soon, but I am creating an FAQ on my userspace to assist discussion concerning intelligent design: [1]. Do you have any suggestions while I am drafting? Please feel free to post them on the talk page.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 17:06, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Feedback

Hi there! Thanks for your feedback. I want you to know it's appreciated, although I am not sure I will be able to address everything today, rest assured it will eventually find its way to Bugzilla sooner or later. Have a nice day, --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 13:24, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Your involvement with DRN

Hi there, I noticed that you haven't been as active at DRN as you was before. DRN has been a bit backlogged lately and we could use some extra hands. We have updated our volunteer list to a new format, Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard/Volunteers (your name is still there under the old format if you haven't updated it) and are looking into ways to make DRN more effective and more rewarding for volunteers (your input is appreciated!). If you don't have much time to volunteer at the moment, that's fine too, just move your name to the inactive list (you're free to add yourself back to active at any time). Hope to see you again soon :) Steven Zhang (talk) 13:12, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi

could you please revert back to Phospheros last version on Cain Velasquez.108.34.218.189 (talk) 04:33, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks 108.34.218.189 (talk) 04:39, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome! --Atethnekos (Discussion, Contributions) 01:10, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Blocked user asking question at the entertainment desk

Hi Atethnekos. A user who once held the now blocked account User:Fête has been asking questions on the entertainment desk recently. Both you and I have answered questions about the pitch at which Chinese pop songs found on YouTube have been recorded. There's a new question there now. Before being blocked, he asked a multitude of questions at the language desk about details in Quebecois French pronunciation. I reported his reappearance at the reference desk talk page, see Wikipedia_talk:RD#User:Fête is back. He has a habit of re-asking questions at the talk pages of previous respondents. The reason he was blocked, was "cross-wiki disruption: mainly inserting false informations and harassing other contributors." In the entry at the refdesk talk page, I've posted a long list of recent contributions by Fête editing as an IP, so you can have a look and judge for yourself whether you want to answer the question. I've chosen to not report Fête's activity for administrator intervention, because it appears to be done in good faith, or at least I haven't seen any obvious vandalism. However, I've also chosen to not answer his questions, mainly because he doesn't reply to questions for clarification or offers to explain how to find out the answer to a question himself. --NorwegianBlue ^talk 11:30, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! --Atethnekos (Discussion, Contributions) 01:10, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Marina Shifrin page deleted =

Hi, why in first place you put tag to delete this and why it has been removed. Marina Shifrin continue to attract attention because of her video. A simple google search return many links and almost all major news networks have done a piece on her. Why can not wikipedia has article on her. Secondly, I put a response which you never replied. Thanks. --Spasage (talk) 00:33, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

My apologies, I have now responded on your talk page. --Atethnekos (Discussion, Contributions) 01:09, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

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American Journal of Ancient History

Hi, you re-added the (rather trivial, I think) factoid that this journal was originally established at Harvard, whatever that may mean. The publisher is nowhere near Harvard, although that may have been different in the past. Was this journal ever know as "American Journal of Ancient History(Harvard)" or something like that? If it's only a change in mailing address of the editor, this would really not be worth while mentioning. --Randykitty (talk) 07:42, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

It was originally both located (what we might call an "institutional home") and indeed published at Harvard University (or at least in Cambridge). "Home" and publishing location are not always the same. For example, Mind's home is the University of York, but it's published at Oxford. I do not believe the editor has to be located at the home, especially not anymore with email and cloud storage and all that fancy stuff. I think the reason it helps to mention that it was originally at Harvard is because both the old issues list the location as Harvard and citations may list Harvard, so keeping a record of that here helps anyone trying to understand that the old issues are indeed part of this journal. Also, it could be recorded just for the record—it is part of the history of the journal after all.--Atethnekos (Discussion, Contributions) 08:31, 11 October 2013 (UTC)